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    Default What are your views on cloning?

    In this day and age, we are getting extremely close to being able to clone more complex beings, and we have even cloned some simpler animals.

    So do you think that there is anything morally wrong about creating artificial beings?

    I, personally, don't really have anything against it, however, if it were to become a reality, then I think the human race would need to acknowledge what they're getting into to.

    Also, would there be some kind of segregation as a result of cloned beings? (That is, if we were to clone humans).

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    I don't find anything morally wrong with cloning. But there are a lot of immoral complications which are possible, for instance cloning organisms for organs. It will be good, though, when we have learnt to clone only the organs themselves.



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    I agree, and this is going to sound weird, as I am going to refer to a movie (I don't remember the name), however there is a movie in which there are humans that are cloned, solely for organs.

    I think that if humans were cloned, the clones would definitely not be treated as equals.

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    The island?

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    Can we create a copy which will be completely unhindered and average?

    Provided we can, of course.

    As long as they don't become a crop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupoftea View Post
    The island?
    Yes! That is the movie

    I know that clones would be equals to humans, but the point I'm trying to make is that society wouldn't treat them as such. Or would they? I personally don't think they would.

    Do you think it's better not to delve into the realm of cloning? At least...not cloning humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ¿Ü╩ ø¹§.ý View Post
    Yes! That is the movie

    I know that clones would be equals to humans, but the point I'm trying to make is that society wouldn't treat them as such. Or would they? I personally don't think they would.

    Do you think it's better not to delve into the realm of cloning? At least...not cloning humans?
    They wouldn't be treated as equal...not at first. There's a fundemental difference that anybody would latch onto about how some people were born and some were cloned.

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    I see thing morally wrong with cloning and and of itself.
    However, using clones for, say, organ harvesting...that would be a problem. Using clones as dummy plug soldiers...that would be unethical. Those kinds of uses of cloning, I would have a problem with.

    Because, I think that clones as valid individual human organisms just as much as any other person. There is no reason they shouldn't be full citizens with human rights. And, from a religious standpoint, I don't see why they would not have a soul.

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    Wasn't there some problem with the telomeres though, ie. the cloned organism contibuing its aging process from the same point of the parent's lifespan the sample was taken from ? That'd be kinda nasty on human clones (unless they were of *very* young children)...

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    I want to clone myself just before I die, leave all of my possessions to myself, thus achieving a form of immortality.

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    A clone is no more an artifcial being than an identical twin. Unless you're talking about those Replicants from Blade Runner.
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    I personally have no problems with cloning...until you start using the clones for organ harvesting, sex slavery, building armies of (possibly indoctrinated) supersoldiers, and other fun stuff like that.

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    I'm completely against it.
    I'm completely against it.
    I'm completely against it.
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    Cloning for organ harvesting is a good idea though. Clone a spare body for everyone without a head, a spare set of everything you need.
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    Nothing wrong with cloning, as long as the cloned individuals are not treated any worse than a normal person would.
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    A clone essentially would be a normal person, they just have the same genes as someone else.
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    Erm am I completely missing the point by thinking that natural birth is a form of cloning?

    Probably.

    I think cloning is cool in general but I see a problem with genetic modification as a substitute for biological evolution at this stage of the evolution of our ideas on it. Is our understanding of evolution good enough yet to take control of it? I don't think so

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    Default Re: What are your views on cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Erm am I completely missing the point by thinking that natural birth is a form of cloning?

    Probably.

    I think cloning is cool in general but I see a problem with genetic modification as a substitute for biological evolution at this stage of the evolution of our ideas on it. Is our understanding of evolution good enough yet to take control of it? I don't think so
    What's the worst that could happen? I mean, maybe we everything up and go extinct. That's bound to happen anyway! Just think of it as ushering in the inevitable.

    Besides, it's unlikely that people would take everything completely out of "nature's hands". It would make more sense to use genetic modification as an addition to that, not a substitution for it.
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    Default Re: What are your views on cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Erm am I completely missing the point by thinking that natural birth is a form of cloning?

    Probably.
    Ayup. You only get naturally born clones through parthenogenesis. Offspring produced by sexual reproduction, aren't.

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    Default Re: What are your views on cloning?

    Can I ask; what exactly is the point in cloning another human being? If I could clone an exact copy of me - what purpose would it serve? Why not just have your own child?

    The only real purpose I could see it serving would be if we could clone organs and not the human being itself - or if we could clone the greatest minds of our generation - so that we never actually lose them - but even this could be considered unethical if we cloned Einstein and set him to work in the science labs surely?
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