Some Graphic Errors

[Archaeopterix]

Hello for all there :

Well i was playing with this version : 7.03 ( i dont remember from where i download, but sure some your links ) , and ... i meet with this problem in some battles... specifically in roman-british against saxons (without pics, sorry) , and this with the roman empire east against sassanids :









... I was thinking, maybe this is a video-card problem... but, maybe not, because this error not happens in all battles, or all units neither ... and i have played one entire campaign with Franks, and this not appears in none moment...

Maybe i download some corrupted file, but i put the unit Ghilani Infantry in other MOD, only for test, and in other that not have errors...

... well, sorry for disturb, its is only a report, sorry my poor english, the MOD is great ( i liked very much ), greetings .

[master88]

Nah, I got some of that already in my past games. Dont know what it is but if I get that bug again I'll tell u what sets it off.

[Wolf68]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254004

[Pompeius Magnus]

those IB grafical failures were reported years ago the first time, but where never fixed.

There are several units which have this problem.
-The models are working perfect.
-The coding has nothing to do with that kind of failure
-95% of the units don't have that trouble, that means our grafic-card is also ok
-So it is very possible that it's the texture which is not working proberly.

It has nothing to do with your download, Archaeopterix, we all have that kind of "black thing".
Sometimes I observed that the officers are mainly causing that trouble, in another battle I have no problems (for some unknown reasons), and in another battle I see that also single soldiers have that kind of problem too - which is also evidenced due to your screenshots.

[Hound of Ulster]

I had problems with the Gilanis also, along with the officer models for both Gothic factions and the rebels depending on which unit was selected by the A.I for the captain's unit. My one quibble with the IBFD/IBRR team is that they simply don't respond when you bring up these issues

[Archaeopterix]

... hello again :

Thanks for all, for the explanations ... I will try to see how to fix it, and yes, I have also seen some comments on some problems in the descr_model_battle.txt . And sorry if I have not read previous post about the same problem, is that very recently I play with this MOD.

Anyway, I insist that the unit "Ghilani Infantry" works fine if I put in another MOD (a trial way)... However, within the MOD (their home) shows these errors ... anyway, is not critical to the creators of IBRR far less, and I still have not seen all the possibilities on this topic.

If I were to find a way to fix it, or the new things, i will report. Greetings to all.

[Pompeius Magnus]

Anyway, I insist that the unit "Ghilani Infantry" works fine if I put in another MOD (a trial way)... However, within the MOD (their home) shows these errors

No, that's not true.
Those error also occurs when you put the units into another mod.
I have my own mod and for testing purpose I used some cavalry from IB. And also in my own game you can see those grafical errors.
That you don't have that error always is simply explained: also in the original IB you don't have it always. So, you can check the coding so long as you want - it has probably nothing to do with it.

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

I had problems with the Gilanis also, along with the officer models for both Gothic factions and the rebels depending on which unit was selected by the A.I for the captain's unit. My one quibble with the IBFD/IBRR team is that they simply don't respond when you bring up these issues

We're really sorry if you have felt like that. We have tried to help as much as we can every time someone has asked about this or any other questions. And believe me when I say that these questions have been asked a lot, and the team has done its best to assist. Granted, sometimes, the team is completely unable to help, which is frustrating for both the player and us. I, for one, have not experienced any of those problems reported myself, so as you can imagine is even more difficult to help.

Anyway, I insist that the unit "Ghilani Infantry" works fine if I put in another MOD (a trial way)... However, within the MOD (their home) shows these errors ...
If I were to find a way to fix it, or the new things, i will report. Greetings to all.

Thank you for your help .

No, that's not true.
Those error also occurs when you put the units into another mod.
I have my own mod and for testing purpose I used some cavalry from IB. And also in my own game you can see those grafical errors.
That you don't have that error always is simply explained: also in the original IB you don't have it always. So, you can check the coding so long as you want - it has probably nothing to do with it.

What is not true? That Archaeopterix has no problems when trying those units in another mod? As stated above, I have no problems either. I assume you misread his words and thought he said those problems don't happen, though what he said (and let me quote him) is: "...works fine if I put it in another mod...". But don't worry PM, that happens to the best of us .
BTW, what do you mean by "the original IB"?

[Pompeius Magnus]

Again also for you pseudo
I'm pretty sure you are not so familiar with coding and texturing - then I will explain that again.
this grafical failure occurs from time to time always with the same units - independently if you put them to IB - or for testing into another mod. You play 5 battles and no failure occurs, and then you think "falsely" that the unit is working with another mod.
And that's the reason why it is very dificult to localize the source of that texture failure.

But don't worry Pseudo, that happens to the best of us .

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

But don't worry Pseudo, that happens to the best of us .

Touché, my friend. I admit defeat .

[Archaeopterix]

Touché, my friend. I admit defeat .

I say the same thing, the worst happens we also

Again also for you pseudo
I'm pretty sure you are not so familiar with coding and texturing - then I will explain that again.
this grafical failure occurs from time to time always with the same units - independently if you put them to IB - or for testing into another mod. You play 5 battles and no failure occurs, and then you think "falsely" that the unit is working with another mod.
And that's the reason why it is very dificult to localize the source of that texture failure.

But don't worry Pseudo, that happens to the best of us .

yep, yep, yep ... its true, i just check recently, apologized for having insisted then.

In my opinion - and if Archaeopterix has the time to help - he should check the textures of those affected units first. Perhaps something is wrong attached to the model or something like that.
Of course it's possible that my theory is totally wrong, who knows :-) .

and, sure... i try it to do our best to always have time.

I had based my insistence by some achievements with a unit (otherwise MOD) said that it is wrong (or was that bug) and I had discovered that by changing the sprites it worked fine... I was pose this, as a similar case.

[Archaeopterix]

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EDIT, some hours after...

Well, no one has responded here I use my own wrong double post...

... I was thinking ( i can wrong again, dont worry )... Not be a solution re-make the skin problem?, =)...

I'm not saying do it all again with details and everything ... I say only: open the skin with DXT1, move it to editor (in my case, I use Paint.NET program, being simple and effective), maybe make some "very small" modification, re-save as a bitmap, draw the alpha channel, to add new skin ... finally save the file as a DDS DXT5 (512x512) y. .. finally save it in the folder "textures".

Then, i was feeling to free work in it... i make a new skin (as if I were making a new skin, but not), i make some graphic modications (only for test, this should not be the version to be used in the game)... i test it in some custom battles, and seems work fine.

In short, pardon me if I havent good explained, the general idea is to make new files on skin problems, while retaining their original appearance (it's the idea, if we can take to make changes too).

hummm... well, if you want test, test it:

http://www.filefront.com/14263963/RG...ehkan.tga.dds/

... if im wrong again, sorry, i only want help.

[Hound of Ulster]

A while ago, while running some tests on a variety of units, I found that the following units were troublesome...

Gardingi (Visigoths)
Frankisk Hridraskara (Franks)
Wendske Adalinge (Vandals)
Herulja Harjaz (Langobardi)
Langobardisk Gasindum (Langobardi)
Desert Cavalry (rebel/slave)
Saxones (Saxons)
Swabisde Adalinge (Alamanni)
Ghilani infantry

some pointed out earlier that some these issues may be caused by the officer model not being designed correctly in that it gets all wierd when placed on horseback. all of these units (except the Saxones) are cav, so that would seem to be the case.

My idea was that you could build an optional fix similar to the one for the start map models and the vegatation textures, which players with less powerful hardware can still enjoy the mod

[Ihatemonday]

Dont worry pals.Nearly all units are changed in 8.0Just more patience..

[Hound of Ulster]

including the barbarian officer models?

[Ihatemonday]

including the barbarian officer models?

Yes and there will be new cool units.

[Hound of Ulster]

lets hope all goes well