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    Default 1220 Campaign (Crusades)

    This thread is for discussion and feedback for the 1220 campaign (formerly the 1230 campaign).



    Though the first Crusade brought great success for the Crusaders, the next four crusades achieved little. When Constantinople was sacked during the fourth Crusade the Eastern Roman Empire split into 4 four parts: the Latin Empire, the Depotate of Epirus, the Empire of Nicaea, and the Empire of Trebizond. The Depotate of Epirus and the Empire of Nicaea are now battling the Latin Empire (which now only controls Constantinople) and each other to restore the Eastern Roman Empire.

    Recently a new power has emerged from the east, the Mongolian Empire. After their envoy was attacked by the Khwarezm-Shah dynasty their leader Genghis Khan and his army have come for revenge.

    Technology

    At the start of this mod Light Mail or Lamellar are the strongest armour available to the player and most of the infantry available wield spears. Cannons will become available later on.

    Factions

    Britain
    Kingdom of England
    Kingdom of Scotland
    Principality of Wales

    Western Europe
    Kingdom of France
    Holy Roman Empire

    Iberia
    Kingdom of Castile
    Kingdom of Aragon
    Kingdom of Portugal

    Scandinavia
    Kingdom of Denmark
    Kingdom of Norway
    Kingdom of Sweden

    Italy
    Most Serene Republic of Venice
    Papal States

    Crusader States
    Kingdom of Acre

    Eastern Europe
    Kingdom of Hungary
    Kingdom of Poland
    Bulgarian Tzardom
    Kingdom of Serbia
    Banate of Bosnia

    Greek
    Depotate of Epirus
    Empire of Nicaea

    Russia
    Grand Duchy of Kievan Rus
    Novgorod Republic

    Africa
    Almohad dynasty (Moorish)
    Ayyubid Dynasty (Egyptian)

    Near East
    Seljuk Sultanate of Rūm (Turkish)

    Caucasus
    Cuman Khanate

    India
    Ghulam Dynasty of Delhi

    East Asia / Persian
    Khwarezm-Shah dynasty
    Mongolian Empire

    Features

    • Every Faction Lead has a unique battle model
    • Faction Leader's authority affects every settlement you control (low authority = more disorder and less money).
    • The new Faction Leader must be crowned in the original capital or they'll suffer penalties
    • Royal buildings allow you to recruit castle units in cities.
    • Arqubusters and Musketeers available from their own building, rather than a Royal Barracks.
    Last edited by The Holy Pilgrim; July 02, 2012 at 06:32 PM. Reason: Updated Map
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    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    Default Re: 1230 Camapign (Crusades)

    why are you having one byz empire and not 3 successor states(empire of nicaea, empire of trebizond, despotate of epirus) ?

    Yes, I know that Ishtar is spelled wrong

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    Default Re: 1230 Camapign (Crusades)

    The faction list is filled. He can't add any more without removing one to take it's place.

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    oh yes didnt saw that
    uanime, it would be a shame not to have them in, id suggest you remove norway and wales

    Yes, I know that Ishtar is spelled wrong

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    Default Re: 1230 Camapign (Crusades)

    Why those two? Norway and Wales are vital to Scandinavia and the British Isles respectively more so than a few succesor stated of the Byzatine Empire. Wales caused problem for England and Norway is just awesome. Why don't you create a mini-mod for this putting your idea into action?

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    Default Re: 1230 Camapign (Crusades)

    Hm this should really have teutons included since they emerged somewhere in 1190...Maybe replace ireland or wales :/

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    From where does come this map ??????

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    I have permission from Falcom Total War to use this map.
    Morning Sun (adds Korea and China to the Shogun 2 map)
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    Expanded Japan mod (97 new regions and 101 new factions)
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    How to split a region in TWS2
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...split-a-region

    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    Update: I'm planning to replace the Latin Empire with the Principality of Epirus because in 1230 the Latin Empire only controlled Constantinople, while the Empire of Nicaea and Principality of Epirus battled each other to recreate the Byzantine Empire.
    Morning Sun (adds Korea and China to the Shogun 2 map)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...28-Morning-Sun

    Expanded Japan mod (97 new regions and 101 new factions)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ew-factions%29

    How to split a region in TWS2
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...split-a-region

    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    Banate of Bosnia should be definitely in, but with the capital of Vrhbosna. Because Vrhbosna was the capital in the the 13. century. Vrh Bosna means "the top of Bosnia".
    kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.

    "And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"

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    Default Re: 1230 Camapign (Crusades)

    Unfortunately I don't have any spare factions so I can't add Bosnia, though I can add it as a rebel province rather than part of another faction.
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    Expanded Japan mod (97 new regions and 101 new factions)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ew-factions%29

    How to split a region in TWS2
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...split-a-region

    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    Default Re: 1230 Campaign (Crusades)

    Since this is the Crusades, does this mean most of the European nations will be united against the Muslim nations?

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    Default Re: 1230 Campaign (Crusades)

    Not neccessarily

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    I'm planning to modify this campaign in the next version. The new campaign will be set in 1220 so that the Khwarezmid Empire will be playable (Mali will be removed). Also the Latin Empire will be replaced with the Despotate of Epirus,which will control the Balkan part of the Eastern Roman Empire, while the Empire of Nicaea will control the Anatolian areas.



    Does anyone have any comments regarding this?
    Morning Sun (adds Korea and China to the Shogun 2 map)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...28-Morning-Sun

    Expanded Japan mod (97 new regions and 101 new factions)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ew-factions%29

    How to split a region in TWS2
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...split-a-region

    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlord.ru View Post
    Hm this should really have teutons included since they emerged somewhere in 1190...Maybe replace ireland or wales :/
    Yea~ I agree hands down.
    Ireland by the start of the mod(1220) was very fractious without any political will and the tenacity to wage counter-offensives against the Anglo-Normans(the Plantagenets) historically-speaking. Ruaidrķ Ua Conchobair, the last High-King of Ireland was ousted in 1186 and died in 1198(22 yrs bef mod starts). With his death, Gaelic-Ireland returned to a state of civil war, with petty kingdoms again vying for supremacy in the post-High King era.
    Meanwhile, Wales is prospering under the rule of the Principality of Wales, launching successful raids into Anglo-Norman-controlled Wales even expanding her realm to encompass almost half of Wales. Wales should be in this mod.

    The slot vacated by the Irish could be given to the Teutonic Order, who were to play an important role on the World historical stage in the decades to come. Alternatively, Bosnia could be in this mod.

    I am not racist or biased. I just hope that all the factions present in this era (1220), deserve their place due to the downside of having only 30 factions in-game at any point of time.

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    I agree with @SOS.H.i.N.!
    Bosnia should be consider as an alternative, 'cause this is the period when Bosnia is becoming stronger and stronger. With Great Kulin Ban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_Kulin) and with the arrival of Great Ban Ninoslav (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_Ninoslav), Bosnia struggled against Hungarian Kingdom and Byzantine Empire and succeeded to establish control of most of Bosnia. Also, Kulin and Ninoslav were the only two Great Bans, rest were just Bans till the period of Ban Tvrtko (1353-1391) when Bosnia became a kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsman81 View Post
    I agree with @SOS.H.i.N.!
    Bosnia should be consider as an alternative, 'cause this is the period when Bosnia is becoming stronger and stronger. With Great Kulin Ban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_Kulin) and with the arrival of Great Ban Ninoslav (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matej_Ninoslav), Bosnia struggled against Hungarian Kingdom and Byzantine Empire and succeeded to establish control of most of Bosnia. Also, Kulin and Ninoslav were the only two Great Bans, rest were just Bans till the period of Ban Tvrtko (1353-1391) when Bosnia became a kingdom.
    I SECOND THIS.
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    George W. Bush-after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

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    Default Re: 1220 Campaign (Crusades)

    I've created a poll in the Eras Total Conquest Sub-forum to get more feedback on whether to replace Ireland with Bosnia. If there's support for this idea I'll replace Ireland with Bosnia.
    Morning Sun (adds Korea and China to the Shogun 2 map)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...28-Morning-Sun

    Expanded Japan mod (97 new regions and 101 new factions)
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ew-factions%29

    How to split a region in TWS2
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...split-a-region

    Eras Total Conquest 2.3 (12 campaigns from 970-1547)

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    I don't understand why Georgia is not in. In this time period the Kingdom of Georgia reached their peak under Queen Tamar and George IV, controlling most of the Caucasus and some surrounding areas. In my opinion they are more important than Wales, Ireland or Serbia.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._aandersen.GIF
    http://www.worldhistorymaps.info/ima...Hem_1200ad.jpg
    http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1200/index.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV_of_Georgia

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    I agree but Serbia should stay. Georgia could be instead of Despotate of Epirus or Principality of Wales.

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