Whats this for???

[T.C.]

Antone know what the point of faction groupings in the unit_to_groupings-military_permissions file is?
It cant be faction permission because thats covered somewhere else....isn't it?

[T.C.]

surely someone knows?

[Johan217]

It's a faster way to enable units for a large number of factions. E.g. austria_group is not just Austria, but also Hungary, Westphalia and Württemberg (I think) and their respective Rebel factions.

[M D]

and any country that controls any of that land, I believe...

[T.C.]

So if make a unit that i want for only 1 faction (e.g britain), that can only be recuited from london, and give it an entry under 'great britian group' any faction that takes london can recuit it?
So how do i find out/edit the groups?

[M D]

no idea. Ask someone like ToonTotalWar

[T.C.]

will do.
thanks for help
+rep to you all

[Irmo]

No - not everyone who takes London can use it. Every faction belongs to a specific group (you can check which under faction_tables), and the file you mention allows recruitment of the troop for all factions that belong to that group. The other file is used only for unique units (like Windbusche, or guards, or unique ships) rather than a lot of units. You can also find a list of all the military groupings under groupings military groups.

Here is a list of the factions and their respective groups: (sorry about the strange format - I copied it right off the .tsv)

afghanistan | mughal_group
american_rebels | usa_group
amerind_rebels | amerinds_group
austria | austria_group
austrian_rebels | austria_group
barbary_rebels | barbary_group
barbary_states | barbary_group
bavaria | prussia_group
britain | great_britain_group
british_rebels | great_britain_group
british_settler_rebels | great_britain_group
chechenya_dagestan | russia_poland_group
cherokee | amerinds_group
colombia | spain_group
cossack_rebels | russia_poland_group
courland | russia_poland_group
crimean_khanate | russia_poland_group
denmark | sweden_denmark_group
dutch_rebels | united_provinces_group
european_settler_rebels | great_britain_group
france | france_group
french_rebels | france_group
french_settler_rebels | france_group
genoa | venice_group
georgia | russia_poland_group
greece | venice_group
greek_rebels | venice_group
hannover | prussia_group
hessen | prussia_group
holstein_gottorp | prussia_group
hungary | austria_group
huron | amerinds_group
india_settler_rebels | maratha_group
inuit | amerinds_group
ireland | great_britain_group
iroquoi | amerinds_group
italian_rebels | venice_group
khanate_khiva | mughal_group
knights_stjohn | venice_group
louisiana | france_group
mamelukes | ottoman_group
maratha | maratha_group
maratha_rebels | maratha_group
mecklenburg | prussia_group
mexico | spain_group
middle_east_settler_rebels | ottoman_group
morocco | barbary_group
mughal | mughal_group
mughal_rebels | mughal_group
mysore | mughal_group
naples_sicily | venice_group
netherlands | united_provinces_group
new_spain | spain_group
norway | sweden_denmark_group
ottoman_rebels | ottoman_group
ottomans | ottoman_group
papal_states | venice_group
persian_rebels | mughal_group
piedmont_savoy | venice_group
pirates | pirates
plains | amerinds_group
poland_lithuania | russia_poland_group
portugal | spain_group
portugese_rebels | spain_group
powhatan | amerinds_group
prussia | prussia_group
prussian_rebels | prussia_group
pueblo | amerinds_group
punjab | maratha_group
quebec | france_group
russia | russia_poland_group
safavids | mughal_group (persians)
saxony | prussia_group
scandinavian_rebels | sweden_denmark_group
scotland | great_britain_group
sikh_rebels | mughal_group
slavic_rebels russia_poland_group
spain | spain_group
spanish_rebels | spain_group
spanish_settler_rebels | spain_group
sweden | sweden_denmark_group
swiss_confederation | prussia_group (oh how I wish...)
thirteen_colonies | great_britain_group
tuscany | venice_group
united_states | usa_group
venice | venice_group
virginia | great_britain_group
virginia_colonists | great_britain_group
westphalia | austria_group
wurttemberg | austria_group

Hope that cleared it up!

[T.C.]

thanks alot
+rep for the help

[Johan217]

You can do a combination of the two tables. E.g. make a euro_whatever_unit available to all faction groups in unit_to_groupings_military_permissions, but then set it to "False" just for Pirates in units_to_exclusive_faction, so that all factions except this one will be able to recruit the unit.

To change the region where a unit can be recruited, you need to go into the untis_table. There's a specific field for this. The available regions ale listed in region_unit_resources. The regions are coded into the startpos.esf file, so if you want to add more regions you need to edit that file too (which will require a campaign restart to see the effect).

I assume that for the purpose of your mod, the regions "england", "scotland", "ireland" and "britain_home_regions" (includes the 3) will be the most useful.

[T.C.]

well im just interest in it for my mod (in my sig), im just wondering, as i havent play tested it, would it end up with Irish only units all over the shop. :hmm; but now I know it wont

[erasmus777]

It's also worth noting that you can create your own group. You can do this by defining the new group in groups_military_tables and assigning it to the desired factions in factions_tables. You then need to make the necessary changes to unit_to_groupings_military_permissions.

[Officerpuppy]

Creat your own group...interesting, good to know!