TATW Battle Editor (Tutorials, Help, Manual, Development)

**Brego** · July 22, 2009, 02:57 PM

Hmm, I changed it to milan, but I'm still getting CTD..

I'll try to change some deployment zones.

Btw, do you know how to have the units wear ladders? Cause the ones I've assigned with ladders spawn without..

**jản** · July 22, 2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Brego

Hmm, I changed it to milan, but I'm still getting CTD..

I'll try to change some deployment zones.

Btw, do you know how to have the units wear ladders? Cause the ones I've assigned with ladders spawn without..

hm thats strange / i dont know what else you can do / have you edited anything on your own that could cause the CTD?

but how you get siege engines read this:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...19#settlements

**Brego** · July 22, 2009, 03:22 PM

Haven't edited anything other in the descr_battle than doing so both factions are playable, before editing Isengard was the only one who was playable, but anyways, I'm starting a new one, since I had used a Huge city as my wall, so then I can't use ladders.. So I'm gonna make a new one using a large city instead, but thanks for your help

**Killerbee** · July 23, 2009, 09:42 AM

How to : Set up a HB script :

Go to your HB descr_battle file . At the end of that file , add 'script' , and on the following line , add your script file name . Sample use :

Code:

script
hastings_script.txt

Then , in your HB folder (where your descr_battle folder is located) , add the corresponding text file . make sure it's named exactly like you said in descr_battle . So , here , the script file would be called :

hastings_script

Inside the script file , add the following stuff :

Code:

script

prepare_for_battle

while I_InBattle
end_while
end_script

Now , your battle is ready to be scripted ! If you wanna script , you gotta put all stuff here :

Code:

script

prepare_for_battle

; Here goes all the script stuff ;

 while I_InBattle
end_while
end_script

Usefull commands and stuff :

I suggest you label units . this will make it able to let them attack specific units and vice-versa . labeling is done like this :

label_unit 0 2 4 custom_unit_1

You don't get it ? here's some info :

Identifier: label_unit
Parameters: alliance, army, unit, label
Description: Label a particular unit
Sample use: label_unit 0 2 4 julii_hastati_2

so , this is what i think how you must do it :

Code:

label_unit 0 2 4 custom_name_1

0 : Stands for which alliance the unit is in. 
2  : Stands for the army . If you have like four armies in 1 alliance , you need to tell if it's the first , second , third , .. one (i think)
4 : Stands for the unit inside the army . If you have for instance 3 units in an army , you need to choose which unit (the first , second , or third)
custom_name 1 : The name you labelled the unit . Can be anything really : hastati_1 , strong_guy_lolz , ...

I'm not sure , but this is how i think bout it . To make use of the labelled unit , we can use this command :

unit_order_attack_unit cavalry1 enemy4 run

cavalry1 is a label . it's how you labelled the units . this could be for instance 'strong_guy_lolz' , or 'hastati_1' . enemy4 is also a label . Run is optional , and determines wether the unit will charge them or not . You can just delete it .

OPTIONAL : I strongly suggest you put the commands inside monitors . Otherwise the game won't know when to attack (they'll just attack from the start) Monitors can determine for instance if a targetted unit has moved , they should not attack that unit .

So , this is for instance how our script looks like :

Code:

script

prepare_for_battle
 
; Here goes all the script stuff ;
; Labelling of units ;
label_unit 0 2 4 hastati_1
label_unit 1 3 1 strong_guy_lolz

unit_order_attack_unit hastati_1 strong_guy_lolz
 while I_InBattle
 end_while
 end_script

This script will make the unit we called 'hastati_1' attack the unit we called 'strong_guy_lolz' .

Some further notes on scripting :
Scripting is caps-sensitive . It also dpoesn't accept typos . make sure that you have the correct spelling like it's listed in the docudemons .

Some other usefull commands that can be used in scripts :

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_immediate_place
Parameters: unit_label location angle_in_degrees width(optional)
Description: Immediately positions the unit at the given location
Sample use: unit_immediate_place archers1 big_hill 0 20
Class: UNIT_IMMEDIATE_PLACE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_halt
Parameters: unit_label
Description: orders the specified unit stop it's orders
Sample use: unit_order_halt cohort1
Class: UNIT_ORDER_HALT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_move
Parameters: unit_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the specified unit to move to the specified position
Sample use: unit_order_move cohort1 100 60 run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_MOVE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_move_to_orientation
Parameters: unit_label x y width_in_men rotation_in_degrees run (optional)
Description: orders the specified unit to move to the specified position with a specified rotation and orientation
Sample use: unit_order_move_to_orientation cohort1 100 60 20 45 run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_MOVE_TO_ORIENTATION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Scott
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_move_relative
Parameters: unit_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the specified unit to move to the specified position
Sample use: unit_order_move_relative cohort1 0 60 run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_MOVE_RELATIVE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_attack_unit
Parameters: unit_label target_unit_label run(optional)
Description: Orders one unit to attack another
Sample use: unit_order_attack_unit cavalry1 enemy4 run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_ATTACK_UNIT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_attack_closest_unit
Parameters: unit_label search_arc(in degrees) run(optional)
Description: Searches an arc in front of the unit, and attacks the closest enemy found
Sample use: unit_order_attack_closest_unit 15 run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_ATTACK_CLOSEST_UNIT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_change_formation
Parameters: unit_label formation_type (square, horde, testudo, phalanx)
Description: changes the specified unit's formation
Sample use: unit_order_change_formation legionary_cohort testudo
Class: UNIT_ORDER_CHANGE_FORMATION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_move_to_missile_range
Parameters: attacker_unit_label target_unit_label run(optional)
Description: orders the attacker to move into missile range of the target
Sample use: unit_order_move_to_missile_range roman_archers barb_swordsmen run
Class: UNIT_ORDER_MOVE_TO_MISSILE_RANGE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_order_turn
Parameters: unit_label rotation relative/absolute
Description: order the unit to turn to an absolute angle or by an angle relative to it's current rotation
Sample use: unit_order_turn roman_archers -20 relative (turns left 20 degrees)
Class: UNIT_ORDER_TURN
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_morale
Parameters: unit_label morale_level (beserk/impetuous/high/firm/shaken/wavering/routing)
Description: sets and locks the unit's morale level
Sample use: unit_set_morale carthaginian_peasants wavering
Class: UNIT_SET_MORALE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_unset_morale
Parameters: unit_label
Description: unlocks the unit's morale, the game will retake control and update the morale normally
Sample use: unit_unset_morale peasants4
Class: UNIT_UNSET_MORALE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_weapon_upgrade
Parameters: unit_label new_level
Description: sets the unit's weapon upgrade (0-3)
Sample use: unit_set_weapon_upgrade spearmen1 3
Class: UNIT_SET_WEAPON_UPGRADE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_armour_upgrade
Parameters: unit_label new_level
Description: sets the unit's armour upgrade (0-3)
Sample use: unit_set_armour_upgrade spearmen1 3
Class: UNIT_SET_ARMOUR_UPGRADE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_experience
Parameters: unit_label new_experience_level
Description: sets the specified unit's experience level (0-9)
Sample use: unit_set_experience roman_general 7
Class: UNIT_SET_EXPERIENCE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: kill_unit
Parameters: unit_label
Description: Completely wipes out the specified unit
Sample use: kill_unit carthaginians2
Class: KILL_UNIT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: reduce_unit_strength
Parameters: unit_label percentage
Description: Kills enough men to reduce a unit to the specifies percentage of it's original strangth
Sample use: reduce_unit_strength carthaginians2 50
Class: REDUCE_UNIT_STRENGTH
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_guard_mode
Parameters: unit_label on/off
Description: Sets the guard melee state for the specified unit
Sample use: unit_set_guard_mode roman_spearmen on
Class: UNIT_SET_GUARD_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_skirmish_mode
Parameters: unit_label on/off
Description: Sets the skirmish melee state for the specified unit
Sample use: unit_set_skirmish_mode velites1 off
Class: UNIT_SET_SKIRMISH_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_toggle_task_interrupt
Parameters: unit_label melee/skirmish/fire_at_will/rout/berserk/infighting on/off
Description: Enables/disables the specified interrupt for the unit
Sample use: unit_toggle_task_interrupt roman_archers skirmish on
Class: UNIT_TOGGLE_TASK_INTERRUPT
Implemented: Yes
Author: IainM
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_fire_at_will_mode
Parameters: unit_label on/off
Description: Sets the fire-at-will melee state for the specified unit
Sample use: unit_set_fire_at_will_mode roman_archers on
Class: UNIT_SET_FIRE_AT_WILL_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_set_formation_spacing
Parameters: unit_label loose/tight
Description: Sets the specified unit's formation spacing to loose or tight
Sample use: unit_set_formation_spacing roman_archers loose
Class: UNIT_SET_FORMATION_SPACING
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_taunt
Parameters: unit_label
Description: Makes the unit taunt
Sample use: unit_taunt barb_archers
Class: UNIT_TAUNT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_use_special_ability
Parameters: unit_label
Description: Makes the unit perform their special ability
Sample use: unit_use_special_ability barb_archers
Class: UNIT_USE_SPECIAL_ABILITY
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_enable_automation
Parameters: group_label true/false
Description: Sets or unsets unit group automation
Sample use: unit_group_enable_automation
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ENABLE_AUTOMATION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_automate_defend_position
Parameters: group_label location radius
Description: Instructs an automated unit group to defend position
Sample use: unit_group_automate_defend_position 106 -56 75
Class: UNIT_GROUP_AUTOMATE_DEFEND_POSITION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Scott
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_automate_attack
Parameters: group_label enemy_unit_label
Description: Instructs an automated unit group to attack a specified enemy unit
Sample use: unit_group_automate_attack enemy_unit
Class: UNIT_GROUP_AUTOMATE_ATTACK
Implemented: Yes
Author: Scott
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_immediate_place
Parameters: group_label location degrees
Description: orders the unit group to move to the specified location
Sample use: unit_group_immediate_place group6 100 -60 -20
Class: UNIT_GROUP_IMMEDIATE_PLACE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_halt
Parameters: group_label
Description: orders the unit group to stop it's orders
Sample use: unit_group_order_halt group6
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_HALT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_move_formed
Parameters: group_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the unit group to move to the specified location
Sample use: unit_group_order_move_formed group6 100 -60 run
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_MOVE_FORMED
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_move_unformed
Parameters: group_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the unit group to move to the specified location
Sample use: unit_group_order_move_unformed group6 100 -60 run
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_MOVE_UNFORMED
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_relative_move_formed
Parameters: group_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the unit group to move to the specified location
Sample use: unit_group_order_relative_move_formed group6 100 -60 run
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_RELATIVE_MOVE_FORMED
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_relative_move_unformed
Parameters: group_label x y run(optional)
Description: orders the unit group to move to the specified location
Sample use: unit_group_order_relative_move_unformed group6 100 -60 run
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_RELATIVE_MOVE_UNFORMED
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_move_to_missile_range_of_unit
Parameters: group_label target_unit_label
Description: move the unit group so that at least one unit is in range of the target unit
Sample use: unit_group_move_to_missile_range_of_unit archer_group enemy_spearmen3
Class: UNIT_GROUP_MOVE_TO_MISSILE_RANGE_OF_UNIT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_move_to_missile_range_of_group
Parameters: group_label target_group_label run(optional)
Description: move the unit group so that at least one unit is in range of at least one unit in the target group
Sample use: unit_group_move_to_missile_range_of_group archer_group enemy_group
Class: UNIT_GROUP_MOVE_TO_MISSILE_RANGE_OF_GROUP
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_attack_unit
Parameters: group_label target_unit_label run(optional)
Description: order the unit group to attack the target unit
Sample use: unit_group_order_attack_unit group1 enemy_unit4
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_ATTACK_UNIT
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_attack_group
Parameters: group_label target_group_label run(optional)
Description: orders the unit group to attack the target group
Sample use: unit_group_order_attack_group cavalry_group1 enemy_archer_group
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_ATTACK_GROUP
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_change_group_formation
Parameters: group_label formation_name
Description: sets a group formation from descr_formations.txt
Sample use: unit_group_order_change_group_formation group2 ordered_triple_line_1
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_CHANGE_GROUP_FORMATION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_order_turn
Parameters: group_label angle relative(optional)
Description: rotates the unit group to an angle or by a number of degrees relative to it's current angle (see unit_order_turn)
Sample use: unit_group_order_turn group2 90 (turns the group to 90 degrees)
Class: UNIT_GROUP_ORDER_TURN
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_set_morale
Parameters: group_label morale_level (beserk/impetuous/high/firm/shaken/wavering/routing)
Description: sets and locks the morale level for each unit in the group
Sample use: unit_set_morale infantry_group routing
Class: UNIT_GROUP_SET_MORALE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_unset_morale
Parameters: group_label
Description: unlocks the units' morale, the game will retake control and update the morale normally
Sample use: unit_group_unset_morale infantry_group
Class: UNIT_GROUP_UNSET_MORALE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_change_unit_formation
Parameters: group_label formation_type (square, horde, testudo, phalanx)
Description: changes the formation of each unit in the specified unit group
Sample use: unit_group_change_unit_formation hoplite_group phalanx
Class: UNIT_GROUP_CHANGE_UNIT_FORMATION
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_set_guard_mode
Parameters: group_label on/off
Description: Sets the guard melee state for all units in the specified group
Sample use: unit_group_set_guard_mode group2 off
Class: UNIT_GROUP_SET_GUARD_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_set_skirmish_mode
Parameters: group_label on/off
Description: Sets the skirmish melee state for all units in the specified group
Sample use: unit_group_set_skirmish_mode archer_group on
Class: UNIT_GROUP_SET_SKIRMISH_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_set_fire_at_will_mode
Parameters: group_label on/off
Description: Sets the guard melee state for all units in the specified group
Sample use: unit_group_set_fire_at_will_mode group2 off
Class: UNIT_GROUP_SET_FIRE_AT_WILL_MODE
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_group_set_formation_spacing
Parameters: group_label loose/tight
Description: Sets the formation spacing, for each unit in the group, to loose or tight
Sample use: unit_group_set_formation_spacing group1 loose
Class: UNIT_GROUP_SET_FORMATION_SPACING
Implemented: Yes
Author: Robbie
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: unit_deploy_stakes
Parameters: unit_label
Description: Deploys stakes for the specified unit (ignored if stakes already deployed or the unit doesn't have this ability).
Sample use: unit_deploy_stakes roman_archers
Class: UNIT_DEPLOY_STAKES
Implemented: Yes
Author: Adam
---------------------------------------------------

**Killerbee** · July 24, 2009, 05:03 AM

Textures . I started to look for 'em in Med2 data files .. there are some possible folders that could contain editor textures :

data/battlefield
data/vegetation
data/terrain
data/blockset(/textures)

Btw , the brushes can be found in data/editor . They are .tga files , and easily editable .

But i think you all already knew this

**Thompson45cal.** · July 24, 2009, 12:06 PM

Nice tutorial

Well, maybe I didn't read through this well enough, my eyes is old. But, I didn't see any links to anybodys custom maps. Has anybody made any? And I am not sure if you found out how to rotate objects but it's "o" and you can type "g" for a grid to help you lay things out. Could anybody direct me to some well designed custom maps (not scenarios, since most of those are nothing more then prebuilt armies on a map grid.) ?? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

**Killerbee** · July 24, 2009, 12:18 PM

Helm's Deep : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277430
Minas Tirith : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=278302
Minas Tirith (still being developed- looks a lot nicer than my version) : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=279188

**jản** · July 25, 2009, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Thompson45cal.

Nice tutorial

Well, maybe I didn't read through this well enough, my eyes is old. But, I didn't see any links to anybodys custom maps. Has anybody made any? And I am not sure if you found out how to rotate objects but it's "o" and you can type "g" for a grid to help you lay things out. Could anybody direct me to some well designed custom maps (not scenarios, since most of those are nothing more then prebuilt armies on a map grid.) ?? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

the links i already posted in the general vanilla battle
editor threead but i wanted to thank you for the tipp with the
building and obect rotating / it works with <O>! really nice and
definatley +rep. do you have any more of these little tips that we dont know?

**Zikko** · July 25, 2009, 12:59 PM

I just tried to make a Osgiliath map of somekind but seems like it's not possible, since units seem to be able to just walk trough all those buildings I placed.

**Killerbee** · July 26, 2009, 06:13 AM

Ah nuts ! I'm unable to add custom maps made by the edior to camp-map settlements , but i can add custom maps made by the editor on any other position on the camp-map : as long as it is no settlement

**Elrond123** · July 29, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hey, I have just finished creating my first battle and have encountered this bug while testing:

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-268572...-65.jpg.html"]

Here is my desr_battle.txt:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I dont know, what the mistake is, but I think, it has something to do with the Fact, that I made Isildur and Elendil Kings, but on the other Hand I made Elendil King aswell, so I dont know.

**Killerbee** · July 29, 2009, 10:30 AM

Are you sure that for instance Isildur is a name for Eriador ?

**Elrond123** · July 29, 2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by KingTheoden1

Are you sure that for instance Isildur is a name for Eriador ?

I have changed the name manuelly, so I dont think so. Do you mean I can fix the Bug by adding Isildur and Elendil to the Names-List?

**Killerbee** · July 29, 2009, 12:46 PM

That's what i think yes

**Elrond123** · July 29, 2009, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by KingTheoden1

That's what i think yes

Thanks very much for your help! I will try this ASAP

edit: Do you now which factions are Gondor and Eriador?(You now what I mean)

**Killerbee** · July 29, 2009, 01:51 PM

Gondor = sicily
Eriador = turks

**Elrond123** · July 29, 2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by KingTheoden1

Gondor = sicily
Eriador = turks

thanks again!

I hope it works now..

I tried it, but as soon as I change the descr_names.txt I cant Load the battle anymore in the Editor, and If I just let it changed in the descr_battle.txt it wont get recognised.

**Killerbee** · July 29, 2009, 04:40 PM

I think you must also edit export_names.txt ? And make sure to delete the export_names.txT.strings.bin file afterwards

**Elrond123** · July 29, 2009, 04:58 PM

Thanks, I will try that.

edit:Where exactly is this export_names.txt?

edit2:Are you shure its export_names.txt and not just names.txt?

edit3: I just tried it with the names.txt and it worked!!!

**Killerbee** · August 05, 2009, 07:40 AM

I'm gonna make Orthanc , it's really easy , and necesary for my script , and my Historical Battle ^^

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