View Poll Results: Which of the following are you?

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  • Socialist

    20 26.32%
  • Liberal

    10 13.16%
  • Center-Left

    13 17.11%
  • Center-Right

    12 15.79%
  • Conservative

    17 22.37%
  • Neo-Conservative

    4 5.26%
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    Fight!'s Avatar Question Everything.
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    Default Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    Alright, choose which of the following you are and state which country you are from.

    Socialist, Liberal, Center Left, Center Right, Conservative, Neo-Conservative

    I am a socialist and I live in the U.S.
    Last edited by Fight!; July 08, 2009 at 01:53 AM.
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    Default Re: Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    why do you show the voters under their decision?

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    Conservative.


    But not Republican.

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    Sorry, but I apparently don't fit into a box.
    I'm equally liberal on some issues and conservative on others.

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    I guess Ill classify as Center-Left/Liberal .
    "In the early days he lived life with his eyes un-open ,
    conditioned to always go quietly . One day his father went
    off to war . To fight a war for something that is not worth fighting for .
    A forceful pry at his eyes to see a beautiful world has been taken from you and me .
    'This is killing me', he said to his mother . 'Is this the true face of humanity ?'"
    - Verse , Story Of A Free Man - Chapter 1 : The End Of Innocence

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    I can't vote since this poll makes no sense. It's far more complex. Liberals are often right-wing in other countries. Neo-conservatives are not far-right. So many choices are missing. Well I am a classical liberal/libertarian.
    Last edited by Enemy of the State; July 08, 2009 at 02:31 AM.

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    Socialist I SUPPOSE

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    Default Re: Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    I voted center right, but upon further reflection I decided I should have picked conservative. I'm fiscally conservative but I hate both parties with a passion. Under the current state of affairs I find I vote for Republicans more often than not, but that's not saying a whole lot because I live in SE Idaho, and in local elections there is usually two republicans running against a democrat, or there is just two republicans running. I'm frustrated enough with the current political climate that I wouldn't vote at all if it was not my civic duty to do so.

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    Default Re: Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    Socialist I SUPPOSE
    Social Democrats are center-left not left - Socialists.

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    Another terrible poll. The Left-Right scale is not an accurate representation of one's views without the statism-libertarian spectrum.
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    Social democrat
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Well I think that we all can agree that Rome's choice was a big shocker.

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    No Libertarian?

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    Default Re: Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    Well I am, but I could only pick one, center-left suited me more.

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    Socialist. Not extreme but not a Social Democrat either.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Conservative, though I can't say I'm a big fan of either the Dems or the GOP - the only reason I'd vote for the Republicans is that I'm completely out of options and they're just a bit closer to my views than the Democrats. I'll probably be voting Constitution (only 'cause I'm tired of seeing the White House controlled by 2 parties) in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Alright, choose which of the following you are and state which country you are from.

    Socialist, Liberal, Center Left, Center Right, Conservative, Neo-Conservative

    I am a socialist and I live in the U.S.
    Let me guess, you're American.

    Liberalism as a political theory in the vein of socialism and conservatism is not left. It's centre-right if we keep using the obsolete left/right scale.

    You've also forgotten most of the political views outside of the American ones.
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    Neo-conservatives are far from right-wing and the poll merely reinforces a number of false ideas about the political spectrum. Again, the only scale with any empirical meaning is a measurement of governmental power.

    Again, I'd recommend everyone read Nelson Hultberg's "The Political Sprectrum Con"
    LINK: http://www.afr.org/Hultberg/080105.htm

    A much more accurate poll would be:

    * totalitarian (in today's terminology communists, fascists, neo-cons, socialists); the true "left" on a power scale
    * welfarist (in today's terminology democrats, liberals, maybe some neo-cons); considered "centre" but actually very left (i.e. tending heavily toward the totalitarian)
    * constitutional republican (constitutionalists, (non-anarchist) libertarians, classical liberals, akin to traditional conservatism in the US/UK) ; considered "right wing" today but actually the balance point where rights are fully protected without being violated by government. Totalitarians and the ignorant try to associate fascism with this position - something so totally inaccurate as to seriously call into question the motive or political intelligence of the accuser.
    * anarchist; those opposed to governmental structure of any kind (sometimes totalitarian-leaning individuals falsley accuse constitutional republicans of this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfNone View Post
    Neo-conservatives are far from right-wing and the poll merely reinforces a number of false ideas about the political spectrum. Again, the only scale with any empirical meaning is a measurement of governmental power.

    Again, I'd recommend everyone read Nelson Hultberg's "The Political Sprectrum Con"
    LINK: http://www.afr.org/Hultberg/080105.htm

    A much more accurate poll would be:

    * totalitarian
    * welfarist
    * constitutional republican
    * anarchist
    Except those aren't political ideologies, they're crap attempts at categorisation of aforementioned ideologies.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Default Re: Left Wing/Right Wing poll {Fixed}

    Again, the only scale with any empirical meaning is a measurement of governmental power.
    Except that your scale would completely ignore civic life, motives for authority, use of that power, economical system used, social values and mores, equates enforced freedoms with bans,... many of which can also be empirically researched by simply looking at the country's judicial system.
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