Guilds

[Sarkiss]

do Guilds have any meaning, do they meant to be in DLV at all?

whilst playing as Armenia a pop up appeared a few times offering me to build St. John guild, but then in the pop up window it said not meant for this culture, dont translate i actually went ahead first and gave it a try and established it, but noticed it doesnt give any effect apart from some health bonus. so i destroyed it but the pop up window carried on appearing every so often. probably explorer guild could be offered instead? would be more appropriate i guess...

sorry if it was asked and answered elsewhere already.

also seeing how DLV got all the possible realistic features added to it it'd be awesome and very fitting IMHO to add something similar this mini-mod http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=102254. its called Spoils of Victory and it meant for EB. what it does is:
Historically, a victory in big battle brought, besides its tactical or strategic effect, also a substantial financial gain for the victor. The fallen enemies could be stripped off armour and weapons, the camp with supply train and sometimes even war-chest of the defeated enemy could be captured...
This humble mirco-mod tries to simulate that within the limitations of the RTW engine. Basically, after a large battle (say, more than 1200 soldiers on the loser´s side) the victor gains a trait saying that enemy camp (and even treasury if the battle was really huge, like a full stack on the loser´s side) was captured and the faction is than rewarded with some money (1000,- or 3000,- mnai) next turn. Depending on the general´s personality, there is some probability that he might get some other traits, some permanent, but most only temporary. He might even use the captured enemy supplies to enhance his own supply situation...

apart from financial reward for the victor and certain traits gain he also gets -% movement depending how big the caprured spoils were.

i think this mini-mod (if its possible to implement at all) would be a very nice and fitting addition to this already largely realistc and outsatnding mod.

[Kjertesvein]

\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\DLV_ext\dataexport_descr_buildings

building guild_st_johns_chapter_house
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convert_to guild_st_johns_chapter_house
religion catholic
levels st_johns_minor_ch st_johns_major_ch st_johns_hq
{
st_johns_minor_ch requires factions { england, france, elo, scotland, denmark, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, flanders, armenia, } and event_counter governor_present 1
{
convert_to 0
capability
{
recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher" 0 0.1 1 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
population_health_bonus bonus 2
}
material stone
construction 2
cost 2000
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
st_johns_major_ch
}
}
st_johns_major_ch requires factions { england, france, elo, scotland, denmark, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, flanders, } and event_counter governor_present 1
{
convert_to 1
capability
{
recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher" 0 0.1 1 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller" 0 0.1 1 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller" 0 0.1 1 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
population_health_bonus bonus 4
}
material stone
construction 3
cost 4000
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
st_johns_hq
}
}
st_johns_hq requires factions { england, france, elo, scotland, denmark, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, flanders, } and event_counter governor_present 1
{
convert_to 2
capability
{
recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher" 0 0.2 2 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller" 0 0.2 2 1 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller" 0 0.2 2 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, elo, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, flanders, norway, ireland, } and region_religion catholic 80
population_health_bonus bonus 8
recruits_morale_bonus bonus 1
}
material stone
construction 4
cost 8000
settlement_min large_city
upgrades
{
}
}
}
plugins
{
}
}

Wierd. I bet it is some sort of flaw, but it might give your general verry good traits vs. muslims.

There is allready a suppy-system in DLV. This is supplied from new lands(keep moving), beaten enemy armys(depends on how big), boats(yes, that cog fleet you got), the tavern inside settlements, etc. The generals can even pick up the other generals sword.

But there is also the psycological issue with armys marching too long out in the field, and at some point, your army must relax in a settlement.

[Sarkiss]

1. what about cultural differences though? will something that works for Catholics work for Orthodox too?

2. yeah, i know. DLV supply system rocks! the only part i found it'd be nice to add is giving an army winning a major battle some money bonus to represent capture of enemy camp and other spoils collected after victory.

[Tokus*Maximus]

it'd be nice to add is giving an army winning a major battle some money bonus to represent capture of enemy camp and other spoils collected after victory.

Yeah - good idea - feels better after a battle to get some booty money! Drawback might be that if you loose a battle - you loose a figure of cash in penalty.

[Sarkiss]

Yeah - good idea - feels better after a battle to get some booty money! Drawback might be that if you loose a battle - you loose a figure of cash in penalty.

so be it!