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    Default Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    I was wondering why my generals are hovering with low fear, and I realized that this is due to chivalry.

    Assuming there isn't a hotfix for this (if there is, please let me know where to find one), can anyone tell me how to disable the triggers for getting chivalry (respect) for joining invasions? I'm thinking this one got carried over to TATW from vanilla.

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    It would be perfect if joining the invasion adds to fear instead of chivalry.

    PS Prettiest Quartermaster Sergeant ever seen. I would follow you to the edge of world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æsir View Post
    It would be perfect if joining the invasion adds to fear instead of chivalry.

    PS Prettiest Quartermaster Sergeant ever seen. I would follow you to the edge of world!
    I don't think that's the actual user lol
    I think that's a model? idk

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by lord0thief View Post
    I don't think that's the actual user lol
    I think that's a model? idk
    Do you feel better now - after ruining my dreams?

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by lord0thief View Post
    I don't think that's the actual user lol
    I think that's a model? idk
    I think he knew that.

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    or if chivalry was changed to something else and not respect.

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Try this:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=266095

    It adds a difference between good and evil.
    It also fixes the bug that makes sauron angry at factions
    that execute good prisoners.

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Well it seems like this could be the kind of thing thats hardcoded but I don't know for sure.


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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_K_1 View Post
    Well it seems like this could be the kind of thing thats hardcoded but I don't know for sure.
    Why would it?

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Trigger crusades_1
    WhenToTest GeneralJoinCrusade
    Condition IsCrusade
    and Trait CrusaderHistory < 1
    Affects CrusaderHistory 2 Chance 100
    Affects StrategyChivalry 1 Chance 100


    Just search for Crusade in export_descr_character_traits.txt

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by JuL14n View Post
    Why would it?

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Trigger crusades_1
    WhenToTest GeneralJoinCrusade
    Condition IsCrusade
    and Trait CrusaderHistory < 1
    Affects CrusaderHistory 2 Chance 100
    Affects StrategyChivalry 1 Chance 100


    Just search for Crusade in export_descr_character_traits.txt
    So you could just change it like this?

    Affects StrategyChivalry 1 Chance 100 ----> Affects StrategyFear 1 Chance 100

    To make generals gain fear instead?

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Well I did say I wasn't sure.


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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_K_1 View Post
    Well I did say I wasn't sure.
    You are not the only one to fail with calling something hardcoded..

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    No, such thing doesn't exist.

    but StrategyChivalry -1 = Fear

    Which I have said before, I also recommend this mod http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=266095
    this makes fear a good thing for the evil factions.

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by JuL14n View Post
    No, such thing doesn't exist.

    but StrategyChivalry -1 = Fear
    Fail

    StrategyDread 1 = Fear

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by axnsan View Post
    Fail

    StrategyDread 1 = Fear


    but StrategyChivalry with " - " values exist, maybe they only removes chivalry without
    getting over the line to fear

    At least when I make traits and ancs it's "Chivalry - "

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    Default Re: Joining Evil Invasion increasing Chivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by JuL14n View Post


    but StrategyChivalry with " - " values exist, maybe they only removes chivalry without
    getting over the line to fear

    At least when I make traits and ancs it's "Chivalry - "
    Yes, it only removes chivalry. When you hit 0 chivalry it doesn't go into fear.
    StrategyDread removes chivalry if it's present, and if not, it adds fear

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