Appeal to CA: British Uniforms

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

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Please, take the poll to mean either tan/buff facings or a random generator for pertinent colours. Don't be offended if your nation isn't part of this thread, just start a new thread rather than flaming this.

Thank you.

[Inhuman One]

I am personly quite happy with the Dutch uniforms, if they would be accurate colors it would look the same as many other nations. we werent that original with uniforms after all.

I would prefer it if they simply gave all uniformed troops the same color pants. thats disturbing me more. I am sure it disturbs you too that your coldstream guards wear both red and white pants. And vests should be a different color than the coat for line infantry, for most factions white.

Personly I wouldnt know if brittish soldiers would wear red and black or red and blue, many movies and games seem to show them in red and blue uniforms.

age of empires 3 in the intro, the patriot, pirates of the caribbean movies too I believe. Granted, none of these are known for historical accuracy, but they would need to get the idea from somewhere.

Personly I dont mind it if the blue on brittish uniforms becomes black since this change wont make them more difficult to identify in battle, but I do think there are more pressing matters, which I mentioned earlier.

Fixed unit cards and lack of consistency in appearance of different zoom levels at some units, and regiment of horse riders having their stomach texture stretched out are all more important issues to me regarding models.

I actually would have prefered fixes to all that over a spanish reskin which still has the same bugs.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

I am personly quite happy with the Dutch uniforms, if they would be accurate colors it would look the same as many other nations. we werent that original with uniforms after all.

I would prefer it if they simply gave all uniformed troops the same color pants. thats disturbing me more. I am sure it disturbs you too that your coldstream guards wear both red and white pants. And vests should be a different color than the coat for line infantry, for most factions white.

Personly I wouldnt know if brittish soldiers would wear red and black or red and blue, many movies and games seem to show them in red and blue uniforms.

age of empires 3 in the intro, the patriot, pirates of the caribbean movies too I believe. Granted, none of these are known for historical accuracy, but they would need to get the idea from somewhere.

Personly I dont mind it if the blue on brittish uniforms becomes black since this change wont make them more difficult to identify in battle, but I do think there are more pressing matters, which I mentioned earlier.

Fixed unit cards and lack of consistency in appearance of different zoom levels at some units, and regiment of horse riders having their stomach texture stretched out are all more important issues to me regarding models.

I actually would have prefered fixes to all that over a spanish reskin which still has the same bugs.

Yeah, the historical uniform is black. They just wanted to have the colours in the flag as the colours on the uniform.

The black looks much better. Next time you're in game, compare the coldstreams with the normal line infantry, and you'll see what I mean. Many more fans than me have actually been asking for it. Also, how would it make them tougher to identify on a battlefield? What other nation has red jackets with black facings?

[Ernest]

I am personly quite happy with the Dutch uniforms, if they would be accurate colors it would look the same as many other nations. we werent that original with uniforms after all.

I would prefer it if they simply gave all uniformed troops the same color pants. thats disturbing me more. I am sure it disturbs you too that your coldstream guards wear both red and white pants. And vests should be a different color than the coat for line infantry, for most factions white.

Personly I wouldnt know if brittish soldiers would wear red and black or red and blue, many movies and games seem to show them in red and blue uniforms.

age of empires 3 in the intro, the patriot, pirates of the caribbean movies too I believe. Granted, none of these are known for historical accuracy, but they would need to get the idea from somewhere.

Personly I dont mind it if the blue on brittish uniforms becomes black since this change wont make them more difficult to identify in battle, but I do think there are more pressing matters, which I mentioned earlier.

Fixed unit cards and lack of consistency in appearance of different zoom levels at some units, and regiment of horse riders having their stomach texture stretched out are all more important issues to me regarding models.

I actually would have prefered fixes to all that over a spanish reskin which still has the same bugs.

I noticed all these two, the second being the most annoying.

[Lumina]

I miss the Prussia black uniforms, vanillia combined with black was a very pretty uniform combination and it matched their flag perfectly, screw historical accuracy, otherwise I would hate Saxony a lot since their uniforms almost look like what Austria's uniforms look like now historically, Saxony looks pretty with a reverse color of Austria.

I think the problemw ith Great Britian is, there are a lot of countries with red uniforms on this game, and i think one already had the red/white combo.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

screw historical accuracy

Sorry, what? This is the mentality that gave us flaming pigs and cannon elephants.

[Didz]

All Royal Regiments in the British Army wear blue facings, to indicate that they are a Royal Regiment.

In 1742, the 1st, 7th, 8th, 18th, 21st, 23rd and Invalids wore blue facings. Other facing colours in use at this time were Green, Buff, Pale Dull Green, Yellow, Deep Yellow, Bright Yellow, Medim Warm Green, Light Yellow, Pale Buff, Greyish White, Olive Green, White, Red, Orange, Deep Bluish Green, and Black.

Many of these colours have meanings and relevance to the founding of the regiment, e.g. Blue = Former Royal Regiment, Buff = Former Regiment of the 'The Old Corps', Orange = Former Dutch Regiment others reflect the favourite colour of the family that originally raised the regiment.

Only one Regiment the 50th wore Black facings in 1742.

There is quite a nice site here which shows the colours, uniforms and drums of every infantry regiment in the British Army during this period. http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/BD_1R.htm

[Yojimbo]

Agreed black looks much better and even yellow would be better. The blue looks nasty.

[ARCHIEIKE]

I don't know how historical it is, but i think white would look better, alot of mods do this already. What i would like to see though is the artillery crews and cavalry uniforms changed to a dull blue (not UP blue!!!).

[Elyrioth]

Actually the facings were not all black in this era, the differed from regiment to regiment. So yellow, Green and blue were also quite common. Example 8th Foot blue facings in this era.
This site is good for uniforms from SYW: http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...e=British_Army
Also any of the MMA series of book from Osprey.

Voted for no change as Bluie is as historically accurate as any other offering.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Actually the facings were not all black in this era, the differed from regiment to regiment. So yellow, Green and blue were also quite common.

They weren't all black, true, but they were mainly black, or I believe occasionally navy blue. I'm just about to post a pictorial comparison to illustrate the point.

[Elyrioth]

They weren't all black, true, but they were mainly black, or I believe occasionally navy blue. I'm just about to post a pictorial comparison to illustrate the point.

That is incorrect, blue, green and Yellow were the primary facing colours in this era. Black became more popular in the 19th Century. If you wish to use the single most common facing from 1700 to 1800 it would be Yellow.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

That is incorrect, blue, green and Yellow were the primary facing colours in this era. Black became more popular in the 19th Century. If you wish to use the single most common facing from 1700 to 1800 it would be Yellow.

OK, I've looked into it, and you're right. Black was only standardised in the 19th century, when individual units' facings were discontinued. Nonetheless, the blue still looks godawful. Here is a piccy of a line infantry regiment (blue facings) standing next to a grenadier regiment (black). Now, other than the mitred hat and white sashes, the two units should be similar, no? Well have a look:



Can you honestly say the blue looks better?

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Yes Royal Horse Artillery officers too, Red uniforms I should Bally well think not.
at the very least give the officers blue uniforms Tarleton headdress and I would probably "pop my clogs" or make a mess of my trousers at the very least!
"and all that'

Ah, arch duffer! One was rather hoping you would turn up, sir. This aberration of Britishness has gorn on far to lorng!

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Do excuse the double post, but I've just discovered the RoN retexture, which should do the job instead of CA needing to! Yeah, I know, "silly me, should have searched the forums"!

[Sir Winston Churchill]

Personally I'd enjoy it if they'd turn white, not black. But anything but the blue I guess.

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

Personally I'd enjoy it if they'd turn white, not black. But anything but the blue I guess.

I was going to suggest white, but then I remembered the PLC. Still, white, navy, black anything but that wretched blue...

[Ataraxie]

It'd be nice if they could simply vary, in a similar fashion to soldiers having different bits of kit in MTWII - you get a random facing colour each time for your line infantry.
From what I can remember, there were many different colours, by about 1800 there were the ubiquitous yellow, green, white, black, blue. Then there were purple facings, red facings, even IIRC one lot that had grey facings.
Then it got standardised, but the game period could include that variety.

Another thing that needs to be changed is British Naval officers dressing in red....

[Rt. Hon. Gentleman]

It'd be nice if they could simply vary, in a similar fashion to soldiers having different bits of kit in MTWII - you get a random facing colour each time for your line infantry.
From what I can remember, there were many different colours, by about 1800 there were the ubiquitous yellow, green, white, black, blue. Then there were purple facings, red facings, even IIRC one lot that had grey facings.
Then it got standardised, but the game period could include that variety.

Another thing that needs to be changed is British Naval officers dressing in red....

+rep! You would be amazed how many people don't realise that Naval Officers of Britain WORE BLUE, DAMMIT! They say "Oh no, Brits wore red". That's like saying people in today's navy wear desert camo...
Once again, +rep.

[Ataraxie]

Hahaha ! *bows*
It was a bit shocking to see 'em in red.
Still, modders tend to get very picky about uniforms eventually - look at the CBUR's unit skins for example.
Some day they'll probably have it so good you can count the buttons on their jackets.