Rebel fort tactic
Those rebel forts with a field army standing next to it? Send 1 unit and siege the fort. Then use your main army to attack the field army standing next to it. The army in the fort cannot help the field army. After you defeat the field army lay siege to the fort with your main army. If you cannot immediately assault remove the siege with that single unit to reduce your field costs.
Morty
Last edited by Morty; June 30, 2009 at 03:36 PM. Reason: Clarified a point.
Miles
Re: Rebel fort tactic
Yet better: attack the standing army and get ride of the two in one battle. ^^ One way is to use cavalry and javelins to achieve this, and good tactics. That's what I do with León y Castilla. Use the same tactic to get settlements.
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Re: Rebel fort tactic
...attack the (reinforcement) settlement-army first. Make sure you pull out stakes, lay out (archers) ambushers to fend of and halt the (main) field-army.Yet better: attack the standing army and get ride of the two in one battle. ^^ One way is to use cavalry and javelins to achieve this, and good tactics. That's what I do with León y Castilla. Use the same tactic to get settlements.
Defending settlements against any army:
When you are sieged by a supirior force, run out the back gate and in the woods. Now hide. The enemy will storm inside the gate, whait in the town center, but nothing will happend. Now, just hit 6X on the time bar, and since there is no count down, you will win after 5 minutes.
Exceptions in woodless areas or if the enemy got a very fast (cavalry) army.
Generals/siege units will die, becasue they can't hide.
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Campidoctor
Re: Rebel fort tactic
Not if you play like a real man with 'No Time Limit'...attack the (reinforcement) settlement-army first. Make sure you pull out stakes, lay out (archers) ambushers to fend of and halt the (main) field-army.
Defending settlements against any army:
When you are sieged by a supirior force, run out the back gate and in the woods. Now hide. The enemy will storm inside the gate, whait in the town center, but nothing will happend. Now, just hit 6X on the time bar, and since there is no count down, you will win after 5 minutes
Exceptions in woodless areas or if the enemy got a very fast (cavalry) army.
Generals/siege units will die, becasue they can't hide.
Re: Rebel fort tactic
IMO sounds like cheating too.Defending settlements against any army:
When you are sieged by a supirior force, run out the back gate and in the woods. Now hide. The enemy will storm inside the gate, whait in the town center, but nothing will happend. Now, just hit 6X on the time bar, and since there is no count down, you will win after 5 minutes
In situation like that I simply fight night battle with field army (second army can't come to help) first then take the fort. Of course this way is possible only if you have "night fighter" general and there's no enemy general with this trait in the fort.
Tactic that Elvallie mentioned is real good one. Fighting that way you can significantly decrease cassualties you would deffinitely get while taking walls.
There is also a tricky way to beat two armies at one battle. I managed to win like that few times (better when there is a settelment than the fort but it works with forts too). When army in fort/settlement is weak you can break in really fast, block the gate/gates with spearmen in schiltrom formation and place your missiles on the walls. Then just wait for second army.
Re: Rebel fort tactic
The fort tactic I described is clearly for those situations that you do not have enough force to take on both stacks.
Case in point, the fort + army in Antioch is no joke, especially when 50% of your army is town and spear militia and your missile units are peasant archers. Oh the joys of playing Milite Christi... The fort garrison specifically: 1 Mamluk archer, 1 dismounted ghulam, 1 dismounted french knights, 1 desert archer and 1 general.
I myself prefer to eliminate both armies at the same time as well. All I wanted to do was point out a tactic that lets you split the stacks up from each other, since night attack will not work as both generals are invariably night fighters.
Morty
Re: Rebel fort tactic
When I plan on taking an army with a reinforcing fort garrison I've found that you can cause the field army to attack you by using probing cavalry or cavalry archers. A quick nibble on his flanks and they come charging. Just kite them to your line. Divide and conquer and whatnot. Otherwise the AI almost always holds back until the reinforcements are combined.
Even better yet, send a spy into the fort and siege it and hope he opens the gates (or just use 1 artillery). Instead of commencing my assault I'll stage my units as close as possible to where his field army will arrive. I then attack them first. This way the fort garrison almost never sallies and when it does its far away and you have plenty of time to work the field army to shreds. When I'm done I then began the siege taking my time.
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