Can you help my research project? Rep will be given.

[Heinz Guderian]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Could you be as specific as possible? I will rep you if you can help. Thanks.

[Deep_Red]

1) Don´t use buildings for all marksmen. Place two or three inside small sidestreets for a hit and run-tactic. The US-soldiers may follow the first shooter and can be taken out inside the streets.
2) Front or sides. Kill the driver.
3) Just underneath the recess to lower it´s capabilities in battle. Or shoot the chains into pieces.

[Heinz Guderian]

1) Don´t use buildings for all marksmen. Place two or three inside small sidestreets for a hit and run-tactic. The US-soldiers may follow the first shooter and can be taken out inside the streets.
2) Front or sides. Kill the driver.
3) Just underneath the recess to lower it´s capabilities in battle. Or shoot the chains into pieces.

Thank you Deep Red. Can normal 7.62mm ammunition penetrate Humvee armour/windows and still have a lethal effect? Also, is the best an insurgent can hope for is a mobility kill with the Abrams? Also, whats the best method to announce to the enemy patrol, an ambush party's presence?

[Imperator Romani]

Thank you Deep Red. Can normal 7.62mm ammunition penetrate Humvee armour/windows and still have a lethal effect? Also, is the best an insurgent can hope for is a mobility kill with the Abrams? Also, whats the best method to announce to the enemy patrol, an ambush party's presence?

If shot enough and if it hits a vital area. I don't think one shot will do it though.

Yes. Unless you get lucky and shoot down the barrel.

Hand signs are best, if night then have some sort of sound or prearranged agreement worked out. For instance if there is a known ambush take your helmet off for 5 seconds.

[Caduet]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Could you be as specific as possible? I will rep you if you can help. Thanks.

1). In most 3rd world cesspools (the sort where you will find patrols is using American infantry tactics) there are large piles of human and animal excrement lining most roads. Hiding in these dung heaps has proven exceptionally effective as the average American soldier does not expect an insurgent to be brave enough to use such unorthodox cover.

2). Insurgents know how to use there environment. In places where an occupying force is unused to the extreme local heat, the insurgent can use this to his advantage by shooting through an open window, killing drivers oversensitive to hot temperatures. In colder climes, or when dealing with more adaptable troops, I suppose you try massed fire at a window. 7.62 should probably shatter a "bulletproof" window if you shoot at it enough, right?

3). Tanks like Abrams are pretty tough. In urban settings, they are even equipped with side skirts (to prevent easy immobilisation with a weapon like an RPG). Luckily, this armour is the British designed Chobham armour, and is no doubt riddled with flaws and imperfections. Therefore, the side skirt armour probably won't hold up against a well-aimed RPG (it certainly won't hold if the shooter recites Allah hu Akbar 7 times prior to launch). After immobilsing, shoot a rocket down the barrel. The big bastard'll explode like a popped paper bag.

[Deep_Red]

Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian
Thank you Deep Red. Can normal 7.62mm ammunition penetrate Humvee armour/windows and still have a lethal effect? Also, is the best an insurgent can hope for is a mobility kill with the Abrams? Also, whats the best method to announce to the enemy patrol, an ambush party's presence?

Sorry for my late response, but still:
7.62mm can pierce windows and still be lethal but not if it hits armour. To make an Abrams immobile is the best an insurgent can hope for, really. In case he only possesses the weapons you mentioned. For the announcement of an ambush, contact via radio seems best to me. If this isn´t possible direct contact with hand signs seems best.

[Каие]

Don't tell me this is Sandhurst

[Deep_Red]

Sandhurst?

[Surgeon]

I'm not sure about the second two, but what Chechen snipers did in Chechnya was to hide behind three walls in a building, i.e. pick the window you're shooting from, go to the room behind this one, knock a hole in the wall so you can see out the window, then go to the room behind that one and knock a hole in the wall again. That way it's really hard to detect where the sniper's shooting from, even though his view is more limited.

[Deep_Red]

And this results in a high grade of immobility once the sniper IS detected.
Did they use traps or explosives? The amount of time alreay in this system seems massive to me, so another preperation could have been possible in time.

[Surgeon]

Well the Russian method of dealing with snipers was to have a tank(s) shell the window the sniper was shooting from + the two adjacent windows so he couldn't escape to the next room over. By hiding behind several walls he becomes hard to detect and hard(er) to kill this way and can still escape. Of course, then the Russians began using fuel-air charges to bring down the entire building and brought in laser anti-sniper devices and pretty much neutralized insurgent snipers in Chechnya. Still, it can be a viable tactic since it still makes the sniper hard to detect.

I'm not sure what the US Army's preferred anti-sniper methods are, but if they include storming buildings rather that blowing them up along with the sniper, I suppose you can always booby-trap the entrances to cover your escape.

[hellheaven1987]

Hell, what type of project you are doing?? How to be insurgents 101??

Anyway, answer the questions:

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

Depends the equipments and the environment; the best way (and most common) is to set up an ambush and brait the patrol to come. However, left booty mines or traps are very common too and reduce the amount of patrols before actual engagement (a way Vietcongs did a lot).

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

Wheels, and it applies most vehicles.

Shooting driver is not a guarantee since it is a smaller target with bullet-proof glass to protect him.

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Side and back, especially the engine part; all MBT has weakest armor in the back and the engine may knock out even without penetrate the armor. The problem is most MBT has infantry escort so it is not very possible to shoot its back.

Besides, RPG7 is not powerful enough to deal modern MBT; however, more modern RPG such as RPG29 is powerful enough to even penetrate front armor of modern MBT (which Israeli fear much during their invasion of Lebanon).

On the other hand, RPG is a AT weapon for poor man's army; modern army uses ATGW which is far more dangerous than RPG and nearly no MBT can survive it, regardless what armor they use.

Personally I would prefer ATM...

(By the way, I thought you are tank expert??)

[NZSkep]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

nuke them

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

a direct hit with a nuke to any part of a humvee will disable it permanently.

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Could you be as specific as possible? I will rep you if you can help. Thanks.

If using a nuke, a direct hit to any part of a tank will disable it.

[Perkele]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

Depends on the objective. Ie. if you want to just cause casualties, find a position where you can quickly concentrate ALL of your firepower against the enemy. Ie. a place where the enemy is forced to cross an open space. However, the most important thing is to have a clear exit route, so that you can disengage without risking losses.

If you're more precise I can give you some information...I spent 2 years in reconneissance. However, US army tactics are quite unknown to me.

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

Wheels, front glass. Ideally you wouldn't do anything of the like, but rely on mines instead.

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

If you're equipped with RPG7 and you're facing an Abrams, don't shoot. Just hope the enemy passes and wont notice you.

[Treize]

School project my arse!
You are going to Iraq or afghani- or pakistan!

Just strap a bomb to yourself and walk slowly out of an alley.
Or an RPG out of a window!
Probably more at the same time, then run for your lives.

And an Abrams won't go into a city in those countries I guess so you'd better stay out of the countryside.
You could try to get something like a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet or maybe a newer generation RPG though...
(Or an IED!)

[Adar]

I only got basic education regarding insurgency tactics (or rather defending against them) from when I was a conscript. Also, what kind of group are you?

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

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If 5 lightly armed soldiers is all I have. Then I wouldn't attack a mounted patrol, you would expose yourself way too much in return for a very limited chance of causing damage. This of course change alot if we're talking about a foot patrol in a "safe" area. Fire at any people assembling around them. Then you run away. All the armour on the western soldiers make it hard to actually kill them. Killing people standing around them force them to either retreat and leave the wounded local or become an immobile that need support. This way you put a strain on their logistics, cause mental stress and prevent them from creating contacts with the locals.

Against mounted patrols I'm not sure on what I would do. The best I can think of is to start putting stuff right next to the road. All mounted patrols fear IEDs, adding locked cars and other things to the roadside mean that they have to slow down the patrols or start taking more risks.

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

Your probably not going to make it stop by AK fire. A hidden ditch or a RPG7 is what you need to stop them. An unarmoured humvee is not sufficient as cover for a prolonged firefight but it's not made of glass. Soldiers armouring custom armouring it with metal plates was also quite common early in the Iraq occupation. This screwed up the suspension after a few 100 kilometers but protects the soldiers.

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Top armour behind the turret is normally the thinnest armour (atleast on Leopart 2 and Russian tanks), the reason for this is that it's normally protected by the turret and absolutely hopeless to hit.

RPG7s just doesn't cut it. If your Shiite you might get your hands on a RPG 29 from Hizzbollah, a much more realistic weapon to use against MBTs.

[Phier]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my groupcell. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.
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[Chlodwig I.]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Could you be as specific as possible? I will rep you if you can help. Thanks.

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[Oldgamer]

I'm doing a paper on military tactics with my group. I need to get some answers for a specific subject when it comes to insurgencies.

1). With a group of 5 lightly armed insurgents, what is the best way to ambush an enemy patrol in an urban environment? Specifically, if the patrol is using American infantry tactics?

2). With an AK, whats the best place to shoot at a Humvee to make it stop?

3). With an anti-tank weapon (perhaps even an RPG7), whats the best place to hit an Abrams M1A2 tank?

Could you be as specific as possible? I will rep you if you can help. Thanks.

I'm sorry, my friend, but although I know the answers to your questions, I will not answer them. Somewhere, in the digital world, is someone who might put that information to bad use.

The only thing I will say is that it is a bad idea to attack American troops. They usually will be much superior to any "lightly armed insurgents".

[Каие]

I'm sorry, my friend, but although I know the answers to your questions, I will not answer them. Somewhere, in the digital world, is someone who might put that information to bad use.

The only thing I will say is that it is a bad idea to attack American troops. They usually will be much superior to any "lightly armed insurgents".

5,000 American soldiers beg to differ.