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First of all I want to thank you for your time, if you are gonna read this and second have a great day and enjoy life as it comes to you.

to begin I will present a rime of mine, I like making rimes! (I am serious with this its just a rime nothing more nothing less.)

Best members of the CdeC take it easy one me
when you are bored jump overboard, when you cross the street lift your feet
TWC is the place to meet, friends and lovers from head to toe
Fear the day, a guy comes to you with a gun, on no he fires at you hide and run, from that terrible foe
you can kill a fly, and try to touch the sky, and then you realize it's all a lie

thank you, now it will be serious.



This triangle shows TWC as a unity, we all form TWC. One can't keep this site working without an other.
Members are their for posting, debating keeping the site rolling. Citizens debate what to do with the site or change it, they post to but have more option to keep this site interesting and nice to come at the same time. Moderators are the people that keep this site clean of anything illegal or assault on members, the moderate move treads that are post in the wrong forum and content writers and Liberians make it nice to read articles in the Helios or the Eagle Standard. And other staff keep the date base of TWC good, if a error is their the technical staff will be their to work on it, they deserve credit for what they do, its hard, and asks much of a man. Administrator the people the core behind TWC, the have a job to make TWC the perfect place to please any members with questions. Site owner is the man behind it all, if a problem happens with the server he is the only one wit access to it, (I think).
TWC a site I have know for about 3 months, but it feels like a longer time, I have never found a site like this, never, with so many options and ranks, most site have just a moderator and owner and poster that's it, this site has much more.

Why I deserve to become a citizen ?

Well I am maybe 3 months member, but don't think because of that, I have not enough contributed to this site, I am not a guy that registers and leaves, I find it a special and nice place here, I am happy to be here, and I would like to do more then just posting. that is fine with me btw, but more is always welcome. I really want to do more for this site, see the secrets want to help other guy's out if they have a problem. I have always been told you need to present what you have done best to the CdeC with a case.

Here goes all or nothing!

This are my 2 biggest ideas, this are 2 idea for a remake of RTW or a expansion for ETW

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Title: (Roman Glory total war) (remake of the game with new idea's)

Intro (750 BC-476 AD)
The legend about Rome
Foundation of Rome in 753 BC the legend is the two brother Romulus and Remus. Romulus and Remus didn't know how was gonna be king so the fight and Romulus kilt Remus and named it Rome at the same spot where the wolvin bringt up the two children,and Romulus became the first king of Rome.
(The beginning 750 BC - the end 476 AD)
The Roman Empire as we know it became a huge empire because of there loyalty to Rome and army's.
the empire all came out from one state Rome.
In the beginning the Citizens find it a honour to fight for Rome,but in 396 BC the made the Roman army
a professional army and all the soldiers get paid with denari.
Why the Western part of the Empire didn't survive past 476 AD.
1.One of the biggest reasons is that the lost a battle in Adrianopel 378 AD against the Goths the lost so many good disciplined and experienced soldiers,
that the where forced to take Germans into the army's the Roman Army wout never be the same
and the goths stay't at the donauregion until theodosius died in 395 AD the goths moved into Western land's.
2.And the Western Empire was so in Chaos because of Baberians that came into Roman land's,and a lack of good soldiers that wanted to fight for Rome,and where disciplined.
3.The huns where coming making all those tribe's in panic and most moved into Roman land's.

there where three period's
Here is a picture here you see the kingdom in 753 to 509 BC.

Here is a picture of the republic in 508 BC to 27 BC.

Here you see a picture of the Empire in 27 BC to 476 AD end of the Western Empire.


Roman Story
It took place in 356 AD at the Empire's border.There where two soldiers (Gorius and Curvus) who were guarding a part of the border at the Donau,there where two watch towers one where Gorius was posted and the other tower where curvus was posted the range between the towers was 50 meters.
Gorius served with Curvus 13 years the are good friends.

Curvus:It look's quiet out there don't you think ?
Gorius :I think we must stay alert all the time,they can come fast out of the woods.
Curvus:yes but there will come a time when I can just live like a citizen and have a farm and go retire.
Captain:go back to your post soldier,the break is over !
storyteller:6 pm at the evening
Gorius:I wonder what we have to eat for the evening.
Curvus:I think chicken or beans maybe.
Gorius:Very tasty food ,don't you think.
Curvus:I think I have eaten to mutch,I go take a nap.
storyteller:later,10 pm in the evening
Gorius:why must we always stand guard so late. A live of a soldier is so hard,but it gives some action in your live.
german warrior:are we ready to attack?
german commander:no, first we need to kill the two guards of the tower, then we can attack the main camp.
german warrior:i will go and kill them. DEAD TO THE ROMANS !!!)
Gorius:hmm, I see something very unclear in the bushes.Maybe warn someone,or maybe it's nothing.
german warrior:sneaking to the wall and climb above to the first guard post.
Gorius:know I see someone.Oh damn. Fast, alert may friend in the other tower, use a torch!!!
german warrior:I am almost there. Then i will cut his head of with may axe and show it to my commander.
curvus:Oh my friend and the camp are in danger. Fast aid my friend (running to the other tower)
storyteller:Gorius is ready to fight for his live when the enemy warrior climbs over the wall with his axe.
Gorius:come and get me, you filty barbarian ! When does Corvus come ?
storyteller:The german warrior climbs over the wall and takes his axe and swings it to Gorius. Gorius avoids the axe. Now Gorius takes his swords and trys to stick it into the german.But the german sees it coming and avoids it,and now swings his axe towords gorius.Just at the moment the warrior wants to hit Gorius,Curvus comes and put his sword into the german.The german lets go of his axe and falls to the ground.
Curvus:Luckly I'm in time or You would be dead. Quickly,we must warn the camp that the Germans are here.
Gorius:yes let's go and warn the camp so we can assemble the army and fight!
storyteller:And so the Romans where assembling there army to go and meet the enemy outside the camp.The Germans now know that their cover is gone and that the Romans know that the're here.The german commander say's:
german commander:soldiers,friends,warriors the Romans know we are here and one this moment are assembeling an army to fight us.I say, let's help them to come to us and in the meantime prepare an ambush.When they come out of the camp to march to us, we'll storm to them with all we've got.Let's kill some Romans !!! (German warriors cheering)

(End of Story)

1.Roman campaign (323 BC-476 AD) estimated (hard)
You begin in the year 323 BC in the same year Alexander the great has died.
your goal:to get popularity within the senate and conquer 50 regions,get one of your family apointed as Consul and make sure that Rome doesn't get sacked by baberians)

2.the senate
In the senate are different caracters in total there are 26 senators all with there own caracter and feeling to worst you.And every senator wants power and whats best for Rome.
That all changes when you grow in power and popularity,some time's the other factions that are indeed fighting for Rome will try to get some of there people into the senate to have something to say to,and vote for the next two consuls that must lead Rome for 4 years,after that the election will come for possible candidates.

3.the roman army
the citizens find it a glory to fight for Rome,the don't get denari for fighting agains enemy's,until in 396 BC then the army becomes a profesion army.
So you can recruit so mutch units as you want ?
No the place where you can recruit you can see to the population so when the population is to low in that region you must wait until there population cap has growd back above 800.

know every unit of 81 man has a centurio and you can pout different unit together forming a legion of 5000 man,can change because of changes in the Roman army in time if you play.
you to have a perfect leading a legion,and the are elected from the senate.
unit cost depend one the class of the unit,you have 5 classes from where the soldiers come.

4.Factions
First you fight for faction RomeS.P.Q.R but in time when you play,the factions will change then you have the option to chose, witch one do i chose,it has a great influence one you and other factions.
like in Rome total war where you have the three faction that fight for Rome: julii,brutii,scipii families.
there can come rebellion into your lands your generals can be bribed to.

5.sea battles
Know at sea you can fight the battle in real time just like in ETW
it's not with cannons that you fire,but with archers and you can chose wath kind of arrows the use when the are gonne fire.
When you are close you can board the enemy and fight it out,then you can chose:
1.sink the enemy ship
2.capture it and use it for your own army
3.give it back to the enemy for a price depends on wath kind of ship you have captured
You can guard trade ship so pirates can robe them.

6.trade
Know the things you can trade with from your region like wine,amber,gold,grain,... you can know build trade schips and sent them to other places,to give those resources from your region to the other faction,and he loads your schip with his resources from his region and the trade schip comes back to you.It's simple you can chose the amount of resources from your region but there is a maximum of resources you can pout one your trade schip.You can chose the amount sent to trade with to other factions,and the same for the other factions that can chose the amount to.

7.culture events
Like in the Roman history,there will be gladiator games to keep the people happy every 4 years when a new consul is chosen by the senate there will be a gladiator game held when he is chosen.

And for the rich citizens there is the amphitheater where the can laugh or cry or be afraid like showing all there emotions.
(keeps the population happy)

8.diplomacy
you have some option in diplomacy:
1.getting trade contract with other factions
2.treaten faction if the don't accept any of your demands
3.making an alliance with a faction,and relay letting him become your trusted ally,but when you have to,you can easey go to war
4.bribe the faction to give a region,soldiers,attack a other faction,give every turn some soldiers to the one how bribed the faction.

(temporary end)

9.land battles
When you get the scroll,how to chose how you are gonna play your battle then this are your options:
1.fight the battle on the battle map
2.automatically resolve battle
3.when you ambush a enemy you can now set straw on fire,only when you fight the battle on the map,then you have the option
to set a ball of straw on fire and release it on the enemy units.(max 5 balls of straw)
4.blackmail a enemy general

10.using caracters
you have a diplomat,assassin,spy,interrogator,representative of the senate,the blackmailer,merchant)

1.diplomat
This person has the same option as in Rome total war,but now he can be a undercover agent in a enemy or neutral faction, like being bribed but then he offers you that he is gonna be a pion that the enemy faction controls,but you can see where he goes and the missions he goes on,and when you want you can dismiss him then he is back under your control.
2.assassin
With a assassin you can kill all characters in the game,he can be very important in the campaign.
Now you can't see anymore from witch faction the assassin is,you can only find it out by spying on the assassin or if he is captured then you have the interrogator how has a chance to get the information from what faction he is.
You can use the interrogator to just when the assassin is spotted some where in your region or enemy,neutral region.
3.spy
the spy has the same option as in Rome Total war (if you have some ideas for a spy tell me so I can edit it here)
4.interrogator
The interrogator can interrogate all characters.That means he can find undercover agents that are in your faction or torture captured agents in your city,village.Then you see a movie how he tortures that agent,then it can fail you have no info the agent is then dead,but if you succeed then you have some information about what his mission was and what his intentions where.
5.representative of the senate (only available for the Roman factions)
He represents all senators of the senate,he has great influence and has more option then a diplomat.
He can charm or threaten a faction to do things and make promises to neutral,enemy,allied factions.
6.the blackmailer
He is my favorite character,he can force enemy,neutral and allied characters.
1.he can threaten a general to kill his wife or children.
2.he can force a leader of a faction,let me explain:when a diplomat goes to a enemy/neutral faction and asks for a ceasefire and the factions says no,then you can sent a blackmailer to the leader of that faction and force him to say yes,it can be that you fail or succeed.
7.the merchant
You can use the merchant to get resources from a other region or own region,just click the merchant and place him at the icon where the resource is.
You can establish trade posts in other factions city's,with merchants you can become verry rich/wealthy.

11.regions
the regions are gonna be just like in Rome total war,but now you have in those regions like in ETW mines,villages,ports,...
that you can upgrade when the city of that region grows,from town,large town,minor city,large city and to huge city.

12.buildings
there are some new buildings like,
A fire station:When a building in a city is set one fire by the wind or a accident by one of the citizens of that city,the fire brigade can extinguish the fire and the damage will be minimum in the city.
A police station:when there is unrest in a city or town,it's there job to make sure the citizens don't get the power in that city and go rebellion or join a other faction.They are not the police that exist today,but more military units to keep public order in that city.
senate building:the senate rules from Rome,but now you can build a senate building in a large city there the senators can go to and give from there your mission,advice,debate whats best for Rome.The can move back to Rome to if they don't like it in that city or it's revolting.
merchant guild house:Here is a liste of all merchant that are from your faction,and all the resources that come to your regions.
the guild house gives much wealth to that region and increased trade.

13.manage your city's/villages
You can chose what city is gonna be your capital.
Now you see how many resources that region has where you can trade form,in your city.
You can see the happiness in your city.
Now you can see how many places there are in that region where you can build on and towns that need to grow in order to build there.

14.who gives you missions
where can you get your missions from ?
(you can get them from the senate,consul,faction leader,enemy,neutral,allied factions)
It can later change when the Republic falls in 27 BC,then you get it from a Emperor.

15.special caracters
There are gonna come caracters that are gonna change alot in the Roman Empire:
1.Gaius Marius
2.Gaius Julius Caesar
3.Emperor Augustus
4.general varus
and some other importent caracters.

You can change history,if you can let the Roman Empire survive past 476 AD or winning battles that where lost by the Romans like the battle of Adrianopel 378 AD,Battle of the Teutoburg Forest,...
Or making sure Constantine the great would not make Constantinople capital of the Eastern Empire.
Then the Roman Empire would still be united like here at the picture.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Here are my ideas for a new game of empire total war:
1.title:(Empire total war napoleon wars)ore
(Empire total war revolution of France)
2.the campaing
you start when the revolution takes place in France(1789) the bastille gets destroyed by angry people of Paris,you see a intro movie that the last king of France (Lodewijk XVI)gets execute,the Jakobijnen get power by the people of France the leader(Maximilien Robespierre)
you watch how the leader of the Jakobijnen gets execute charges(unknown)
3.the campaing from beginning of Napoleon to the end(1799-1815)
you first start as young Napoleon and play some battles in Italie and France(not in the campaing map, just land battles)as young Napoleon.
you see by winning the battles in Italie and France you fast get promoted
Napoleon is in the beginning of his career (sublieutenant to consul,
to king)there will bi 6 ore less battles you can play then when that is donne
4.the campaing real with map overview
you start as Napoleon consul over all of France
but it isn't that easey you have many hostile enemies
you have to destroy the kings ore emperor of all your neigbours like England,Holland,Holy Romon Empire,Austria,Spain,Italiy,...
so it includes many battles the will try to form an alliance vs you(France-
Napoleon)
Part 2
Napoleon can promote in his army captains,corporales but the will not bi horses just infantry of 60 men including a corparal ,there has to be just one unit to have a corparal .no general he will onley come in battles when there are over 600 unit ,(auto resolve ore fight on the map)
A captain will come when there are over 350 men .then the calvary is 45 strong charge 7 attach 9 defence14 cost 163 gold the basic unit are 60 unit hef long guns ore 120 the have long guns to and a swordt (foor close combad) .The base of all unit you will see on the campaing map when the turn is done you will see that the make a camp. you can't get a camp in a enemy region, you can also create that camp (camp cost are 1200) bifor ending your turn,you can also create unit in that region you can make a sort of camp in a enemey region in the tree's where you to can hide your army in that camp (camp cost are 1600) you can onley make spy's and assassin (spy's cost 250 and assassins cost 300)
You will see a new intro movie when they try to kill ore spy some where.
the caracters and college of the campaing
there will bi a college of cardinals to a new family tree start with Napoleon of course
there will bi college of representative of the people the will give you missions and advice ef you follow there advice and complete there missions the people will love and like you more
and some famous painter's will appear in the regions with maney population and capital regions, to some other sity's painter's will appear to like Milan ,Frenze
The painters will keep a city happy and they have influence in the region and for caracters to.
You can get guilds to,like Napoleon's tactic guild here he plans his tactiks with his generals.
to conquer Europe and maby Egypt as well ore Russia there will to bi a rang order of all your
general,captains and corparal. The ones in the top likly (genrals) will give you missions.
Diplomatic options
in diplomcy you hef maney options like you can force a enemy genral to give information about:the place where he is,you can threat his fife
but as he has no fife just treaten to kill all his belongings,if you have enough power reputation you can use a assassin to make the captain ore general in the city you want to attack whit treating to exterminate the city you lay siege to then if you are fair and you promise him no harm will come, you can take that city without casualties, you can bribe the pope to make your faction inportant so all Christian faction will hef to think twice if the will attack you, You can make a painter make a portret of the leader of your faction when a faction ask peace with you you can tell him that he has to give money give away all positions in the college of Cardinals
so with a bit of luck you get that position in the college.
assassin missions can come from the pope, your leader ,college of representative of the people ,the enemy ,ally,assasins guild,...
so know you know a little bit more
from know one there will bi more female caracters like a charmer how can make men folow and do things like giving info ore money. ore a, I dont know if you hef a idea say ore post it here.
the cities all where on there banner the icon from the revolution
(onley france)revolutions may come to other factions as well :goal keep them happy your cities. Use the painters and leader influence well.
fighthing battles options
when you get to chose autoresolve ore fight on the map you see to the strength rate to know you can see it better if you chose night battle you see the rate in numbers not like :8--4 but like your army's moral together
and how many men you have and your general of cours .
but bifoor you chose autoresolve ore fight on the map you can try to stop him from fighting but this can onley happen if you have huge reputation and power ,(you hef to bi a fierce faction)than you can let him disbant ore turn rebel to all factions to follow is own ideas and rebels can know make forts to,, and recruit men to make it harder.
reputation and power
onley the factions leader may have reputation ,he can get reputation with not betray his ally's
ore conquer a huge part of the world like (24 regions)and if you complete most of the given missions than he get's reputation to, You can see the reputation from your leader just dubble click on your leader and then you get a overview of his (reputation,power,loyalty,happines,vision of how do manage his empire,command)
With maney reputation you have some special options, for example you can take a enemy city peaceful,ore when you end turn you let the other factions do there think and one attack one of your army's then if you have maney reputation than you can turn him rebel,ore turn him to you(bribe)
when the pope treatens to excommunicated you,(if you don't stop attacking your other christian factions)then you can treaten him back with saying to him with a diplomate
(I kill you with one of mine assassins if you excommunicated me!!)there is a little chance however when you failed he proceeds with wath he set to you about excommunicated,
And your favour with the papel states,and the pope will sufer greatly.
the pope
the pope stay's always in Rome isn't that boring know he can go one a visit to other factions as well, if you have been verry good to him
he can come to your captital with in the 1,2,3 turns he will arrive then in your captital.with bodyguards ofcours we don't want the pope dead do we.
Napoleon campaign (1799-1815)
You start in the year 1799 you can do 2 turn(summer and winter) when a year passes.^^
so know you need to start making units and attack you have great chock
calvery and strong units.
the enemy has working toughter fiering you will become to strong
so you have units like:the royal guard 18 attack 14 charge 16 defens)
and foot infantry the have strong morale when Napoleon is present,
great 55 accuracy,Relouding time is 80 seconds atttack schot 25
melee attack is 9 powerful charge(9)
when you destroyd all the enemy's, and won the battle of(waterloo)
and some other battles to,but to make sure you stay mighty you will have
to attack (Great Britain)the have a powerful fleet it will not bi easey
the Britisch people have all ready conquerd 1/3 of the world
(Know it's time for France to unit Europe under one baner and to attack) Great Britain) has never been beaten sins (1066)it will bi a hard time for you William the conquerer had done well in making Great Britain a empire.
Britisch campaign estimate (hard)
so wath know Napoleon has taken power in france, you as England will need to have a powerful fleet to keep him from entering your island.A strong king will bring onley glory to your empire.
your goal is: kill Napoleon ore form a alliance with him vs Europe to conquer it and,conquer 35 regions) so Europe is doomed and left to bi conquered,but the other factions won't fall that easey if you are for example(prussia)
if you manage to make a alliance with sweden,Austria,Spain,England then you are of to a good start to fight vs (Napoleon forces) (hint to kill Napoleon) make a (assassins guild) to assassinate him then you see a little movie how Napoleon's throat is cut with a knife of a assassin, and you watch him bleed to dead (your reward) your faction will become verry loved by all the other factions some are gonne bi jealous and go to war with you.
the factions how declare war to you will always chance whenever you are Sweden,Spain,Austria,...ore any other faction
reward: you get 6000 gold from the pope and he will give your leader a golden cross ass a sign you are a good Christian faction.The ones how are jealous however because the diden't get anything the need to bi dealt with when the declare war to you.
bottom line:all the factions want power and technology, you as king or president,... lead your faction to total (victory and glory) make sure you will come in the historie books.
sea combad
when at sea it's verry important the speed of your ships and your cannons (how many cannons there are one board) know you can use your ships
to ram other ships when your own ship is damaged so bifor you begin your battle you have the option to arm your ships with gunpowder if you know you are gonne lose the fight,a little fire and boooom!! your ship with your man are dead but for a good cause and the enemy
is dead to, (if you made it to his ship)
Prussia campaing estimate (moderate)
you start in the year 1799, and you are a millitary might in Europe but France has become over the years verry active and with Napoleon at the throne it isn't gonne bi easey,you must become back the greatest millitary might.hint make some alliance with your neighbours like Sweden,Russia,...
your goal:(assassinate the leader of Austria and France conquer 21 regions and get the biggest army strength in Europe and destroy faction Austria) trade with the people around you.
United Netherlands estimate(verry hard)
when you are the dutch people you have France at your border verry soon in the game so i think it's the hardest faction to play,hint:get alliance's with the other factions and ask for millitary suport vs France make sure the don't get (Amsterdam)speach:(when you attack don't think about the casuties or defead,never give up stay and fight take no prisenores just kill the enemy don't hesitate to ask for help to other factions)
your goal: (conquer 28 regions destroy faction France and kill Napoleon bifor 1815 and get the best technology of all factions)
you must send some spy's and make trade agrements so you have enough wealth to support your army.
Austria campaign estimate (moderate)
when playing as austria you have maney options: you can help Spain,Holland,england,...vs France
you can form a alliance with France and fight with Napoleon vs the other factions.austria can use it power to maby make a new big reich=empire)
your goal:conquer 25 regions,destroy faction Russia,assassined the king of France ,Napoleon)
Spain campaign estimate (hard)
spain has many regions in (Amerika) but know it at it border France can easey come to Spain with Napoleon and a army that not good so you need to prepare and defend make some alliance with the factions that have problems with France to.like England
your goal:get high prestiege get one of your cardinals as pope and conqer 8 regions in Italy and assassined the king of England or France) spain has always seen the need to conqer this time it's verry close to home maby Spain is to bi conqered by other faction's
you ass king will not let that happen Spain aint brokken never
spain has conqered Aztecs and know it will conqer or kill Europe.
what really happent (history)
Napoleon get power by some great victories.
and becomes cosul in (1799-1804) know hi has not many enemies
becomes emperor in (1804-1815) has many enemies many don't like it that Napoleon is crowned king ,and the first faction that declared war(England) many will follow and afther some time Napoleon is banished to (Elba)and he comes back but got finely beaten in (waterloo)

Now I show you honored members of the CdeC some treads I have made during my stay here.

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I now show you my stories of tale of the week.

A DEAd END
The armies of mordor where coming,I heard screaming people running away,while we were going to the enemy army,I was thinking is this not suicide ?We are outnumbert,I feel a strange feeling in my head,
do I got a headache ?I hope not so because I need to lead a army of pesents,soldiers,people with guts
to fase a enemy that wil have no mercy to kill us.
we where marching with 3640 men strong to a enemy 8 000 men strong.
We could already see the enemy orks trolls and a Nazgul I was thing if that thing comes to us our morale will be nothing,we tought it would be best to stay here on this hill and let them come to use.it was getting dark soon,something I hate because all thats coming is dark and ivel,as long as I live i will defend this spot so the will not pass because if they do then my son and wife will not be save deer Johana and Ditri,I miss them so much,I got to fight for my family and for all those other family's.
our swordsmen are gonna hack into the enemy,
the orks are coming sound the alarm,I heard the alarm I wake up take my sword and shield,
the orks attacked the front of our army will the armourd trolls where attacking the back of our army.
I charge upon the trolls with my armourd pics of 600 men,
I could see in there eyes the where afraid,
I told them do not fear we shall counter this ivel.
the orks were stronger then I expected,then we went to aid our friends in battle,there line was olmost broken,
We fast charge upon the trolls to get them confused,I was thinking could we win know ?
then out of nothing a Nazgul came right infront of me he takes his mach swings it to me,I avoid it then I try to stik my blade into the Nazgul rider,I succeed but out of nothing I feel a pain in my hand,
I drop the sword and the nazgul has nothing no scratch I was trying to get up and take my sword but he swings his mach a final time and it gets dark around me I feel cold I could here the screams of my soldiers at all fronts the where overrun.
I was hearing now nothing anymore,I am dead so are my soldiers,
know I will soon be with my familie,deer Johana and my son Ditri.

Brave charge
My name is Donkomir I am a soldier in the army,I have grown up in a village far from where I am know,I have also leaved my wife behind to go to war.
I will do all that it takes to keep the enemy from sacking my village.
We where called to take up our duty to defend our land,we where assembling the army and at noon we where marching to go and face the enemy.
Most soldiers had never gone to war before,I could see there nervous faces there feet marching to a place they never had gone before.I had been fighting in a war before it was hard and many died that day,but know I can make a difference.
I told them :"soldiers we will fight for our grandchildren loved ones and family the will have to pass us to get to our land lets kill them leave none alive"
in the evening we could see the enemy we where preparing to charge but then out of nothing it begone to rain and harder and harder we could not see anymore the enemy.
we could hear the drops of rain splash on our Armour,the soil changed into mud,
some soldiers where panicking and scared.
The general told them don't fear this storm use it to our advantage,I took a spear and begone to march to the enemy it was hard I was hold back of the hard rain,I could olmost see nothing.
Soldiers that where scared now begone to march to eager fight the enemy and out of nothing the army was ready to fight.
I Donkomir was marching and getting closer to the enemy,now I could see them.
I hear from my back our army marching and shouting "dead to the enemy"
I know was eager and ready.
I didn't feel the rain anymore on my Armour the soil of mud where my feed where standing on was something I soon forgot.
I took my spear I hold it into the air ready to point it to trow it to the enemy soldier
the heavy rain makes it hard to maneuver from the arrows,
I was charging into the enemy lines I took the spear took a fast position to trow it and the spear went right trow the enemy general.
I know took position with my shield and blade our army charged into the enemy lines,
I site by site was fighting with my brothers,the enemy army was getting kilt piece by piece.
The enemy was beaten,the prisoners where kilt.
Our land was ones save again,I was looking forward to go back to my wife and village.

Caesars legions
Caesar marched into Gaul territory moving to the Gaul capital Alesia with a legion of 5000 men most of them where experienced veterans and eager to kill those barbarians naming theirselfs Gaul.
A soldiers says: it's a dark sky,the soldiers looks further and then he saw with his eyes a blue sky he now gets a comfortable feeling.
Caesar was one a horse at the front of the army with several bodyguards,he looks in front of him he looks very far at the end his eyes can see and then he saw movement in the hills in front of him he saw Gauls moving on the hills into a line ready to charge on the command of their Gaul warlord.
Caesar saw this immediately a danger to the Roman army and sounds the horn a sound goes through all the ears of the soldiers,
All soldiers knew this means the battle was about to begin,some soldier think am I gonna live when the battle is done ?
The Roman army moves into formation the arcgers up front to fire their missiles at the enemy the veteran cohorts where in the second line behind the velites.
Archers where waiting one the orders of Caesar to fire upon the Gauls,every soldier was eager to fight and loyal to Caesar.
The sun came through the dark blue sky,the sun was shining on the soldiers their face they where all feeling eager and strong a dark day became a sunny day,a good sign a soldier says to a other soldier.
Gauls where now moving fast on the ground with their feet the soldiers could hear the ground shaking at the noise of the Gaul army charging to the Roman army.
Caesar orders the archers to fire,archer soldiers take their spear from their belt point it at the sky aim to the point of the sun to fire upon the gauls.
A war-cry came from the charging Gauls and Caesar says Roma Victoria,all soldiers repeat Caesar,then the Romans charge upon the Gauls.
The 2 armies clashed upon each other and the sunny day became a bloody day.
You could still hear in the Roman say "Roma Victoria !!!"

Aragons vengeance
After the destruction of the Ring Sauron was defeated at Mount Doom.Aragon know he had to finish of the remaining orcs that where still in the lands around mordor.
He marched with all his men that fought with him even his friends Legolas,Gimli that where called for help from Aragon to destroy the last evil on this earth.A army of veterans that fought with him at the black gate and new ones that have joined having hope in their new king,and so Aragon begone to march to the last evil place Bar Dûr.The fortress of Sauron,called Bar Dûr where still orcs where eating and killing plundering the lands around making fear and terror.

It was early in the morning when we left Minas Tirith,I will never forget our king,Aragon he was a brave and good king to the people of Gondor.We where in a swamp or something else hard to describe.The soil was dead dry,no living thing to see in miles, the sky was brown,dark,misty evil was close by.Most men felt it in their feet the ground shaking a little bit,their eyes saw nothing else then a sky of a dead land that was poisoned with evil.But then our king came on his horse past us,we shout with joy when he comes near us,then he looks to us with a smile "we can beat those foul orks today and we will" I tought in my mind thats a men worth fighting for.

It was noon and we arrived in the land of Bar Dûr,we tought their would be not so many orks and trolls to fight,we where stund when we came down the hill and saw a army of 6000 orks with armored trolls,all ready to attack us,trolls with drums giving the beat in the army a complete battle line of orks with banners where waiting on the order to move and charge the army of Aragon.How did they knew we where attacking ?"Aragon says to one of his captains."
I felt scary so did the soldiers between me.

The trolls begone beating their drums the ork army moved,we felt the ground shaking and orks shouting all at the same time.
we reacted and begone to beat with our swords and spears on our shields at the same time and Aragon says to all of us,
"for all that is pure and good we fight this foul orks today and we will win for Gondor!!!" Orks and men where fighting and many died on both sites,I looked around me and saw Gimli and legolas fighting and counting how many the killled,
I tought good old times.
Then I saw Aragon fighting against 3 orks at the same time but at his back a armourd troll came with a long blade running to him to kill him,I took my sword and shield I charged and screamed for Aragon and with my sword ready to hit that troll in the back of his neck.I was olmost their I killed all those orks along the way,a few seconds I had left to kill the troll and the troll looks at his back,he hears a shouting voice a blade cuts through the troll his body,it falls down on the ground,you could hear it last bread running out.
Aragon made a fast gesture of thanks,we know fought site by site as brothers of Gondor.

We killed so many orks the feared us,our men felt eager and all soldiers didn't grow tired instead the stay eager and full of strength,the orks where losing and where killed,their large number of 6000 was reduced to 2300 orks.
the orks panicked and the organization of the army was broken most orks where running in fear to all directions.
Aragon says to us "We have defeated this evil the lands are pure and good again,know we can go back to see our families and friends."
Long live the king Aragon!!!

Strange Dream
Good night Peter,good night mum. "Peter falls into a deep sleep." Peter opens his eyes and looks around him,he sees a strange place,a full moon,dark clouds and ravens flying high in the sky. "It looks like the fly next to the moon!" Peter starts to walk, he sees a landscape covered with bushes and dessert sand.Its misty."The surroundings seems so unreal to me."
I hear a noise of something running fast over the ground. I look ahead of me and I see a shadow running to wards me.
it has long white wings,
a beautiful horn,long hair, Peter sees it coming closer to him, I see it now its a unicorn! But what is that next to the beautiful unicorn?
It looks like a predator,black specks, yellow fur, could it be? "No it can't be,a Lynx! Peter looks amazed to the 2 figures running on the sand next to the bushes, with a full moon!
A predator running next to a unicorn ?
Normally he would attack and eat the unicorn. The unicorn and the lynx seem to have a close connection.
"Peter waits until the 2 figures are next to him" Could I ride on you Unicorn ? With a gesture the unicorn looks like she understands me, with her eyes she looks into my eyes that I may ride on her.

"I climb on the unicorn." She starts running,I feel the wind in my face, the landschape of bushes around us moving fast behind me, the ravens in the sky first flying in front of us are now at our back. A Lynx running next to a unicorn where I sit on. "Peter has no words for what he has seen." While he is riding on the unicorn,he hears a voice. "Peter its time to wake up,you have to go to shool." Peter opens his eyes,mum I had a very weird dream.
It was just a dream Peter. "It was more then a dream Peter thinks."

The Tide of Battle

Its 18 June of the year 1815, Napoleon marched from Elba via Marseille, and all the way now to march to Waterloo with 73 000 men strong. He knows Prussia and the English will be prepared for him. Napoleon his army has arrived near waterloo.
Its raining the ground is unstable and the soil has changed into mud. The men are eager because a genius like Napoleon is leading their army.
The enemy lines are to the north and east. Napoleon orders his men to make a formation of 160 men by 4 meter. His cavalry at the left site of his army, and the artillery at the back of the 6 lines of 160 men by 4 meter. A enemy unit was moving to flank our army. Napoleon orders us to attack it, we where the royal cavalry, elite guard of France. We moved slowly 6 meter, 5 meters and we begone to charge. we fighted them of 360 men we where with 540 men, we would easy win, light infantry riflemen they didn't stoot a chance against us, we fast begone to slaughter them.
The rand to all directions, I go after one and he turn around ready to attack me.
I draw my sable, I come closer and the sun shines on my long sharp sable, it reflects in the eyes of the enemy. he is dazzled for a moment, I took my chance and hit him, my sable cuts trough him leaving a dead body on the ground. We moved back with our unit to the main army. Napoleon orders his riflemen to fire! Aim, steady, wait , open fire! Reload Aim and Fire! Cannons aim to that group of cavalry of 560 men and fire! You could here many cries of pain and cannon fire, rifle fire. It sounded like hell! At the same time I felt good the enemy where shot by pieces their men loosing legs, hands, being shot in the chest, on all the places on their body. We toughed we where winning but the tide of battle changed against us. The enemy surrounded us from the east and northeast their cannons blow holes in our line! Our drummer begone do drum faster to give the rate in the army, we hold our flag high in the sky, to let them see we are France under rule of Napoleon the greatest general of all time! But still we where losing, was it because we where outnumbered or because they where more eager and brave then us ? NO! We are soldiers with a rifle or sable its not about morale but about skill, a thing the Prussians don't have.
The battle lasted the entire day, the field was full of corps with lost legs,arms,heads. It was disgusting to see.
Napoleon goes on his horse gives the command to follow him to charge the enemy that where coming closer every second he orders his men to keep on firing until they had no more munition. The cavalry with Napoleon leading it of 4600 men strong, Napoleon knows he is losing. He tries a last stand hoping he will brake the enemy line and morale. We all shoot for France!
I tough in my mind we are riding against 6000 men with rifles, cannons, cavalry what are we doing, Napoleon must know we are losing, But I am loyal, so I continue to ride on my horse with my unit together with all others that where following Napoleon.
Napoleon a general that I will follow until death!

You can see that my first story isn't realy good and my last is.
I learn and try to type without mistakes.

Now as last my AAR'S

[RTW AAR] Pontic Wars !(completed)!

[M2TW AAR] The struggle for Europe I am still updating this AAR.


Well thats it, I hope you have enjoyed it and thought it was worth it.

Patron: Tony83

Master412160 recently asked if I would patronise him. Initially, I was a little hesitant as I did not know him that well, but after researching his contributions to TWC, in the relatively short time that he has been with us, and seeing their quality (considering that English is not his first language), my doubts were dispelled and I am convinced that he is the sort of person who will bring credit to the rank of Citizen.

The above are good examples of his work. He is intelligent and thoughtful, and brimming over with exhuberance, enthusiasm and optimism, furthermore, he obviously cares about setting a good example and is prepared to help others.

Therefore, I am happy to recommend his inclusion into the august ranks of the Citizenry, and patronise him in the great house of Wilpury (all blessings and .... etc.).

Please smile on this new young blood gentlemen he, and his ilk, are the future of TWC.

Tony83

[imb39]

I quite like this guy. Seems to be everywhere!

I haven't researched this. This is my impression.

[Pontifex Maximus]

I'm going to go with a no.

@ Ian,

how correct you are. He even graced my profile with a rhyme.

[imb39]

Why no, though. I think it always helpful so that soulghast can go back with a reason, especially if the same one crops up.

[Astaroth]

While this seems to be quite an enthusiastic fellow I don't believe that he is ready for Citizenship yet. I don't see any significant contributions, he has neither modded, nor are his debating skills anything special. Entering the Tale of the Week contest a few times, starting two average AARs, and throwing around some ideas simply doesn't cut it in my opinion. Furthermore, both his posts and his articles are full of grammatical errors. While this wouldn't be a huge problem for a modder, it should be taken into account in this case I believe.

Finally, the candidate has been PMing several people asking them to patronize him (including myself). While I wouldn't hold that against him in theory I don't know whether such a behavior is appropriate for a Citizen when taking into account that he apparently PMed more than a few people about this without even explaining why he deserves this rank.

Therefore, I'll have to go with a no.

[Justinian]

LOL, no. Sorry. He can barely speak English enough to communicate and spams randomly..

[Pontifex Maximus]

He has no real contributions, everything he does do is for citizenship, he is one of the people that has PMed nearly every citizen asking for a patron, and his posts are unintelligible. Its nothing personal, he just isn't ready.

[Augustus Lucifer]

He really went to town on that 'paragraph'. I got a bit of a chuckle from the pyramid. I'll look into it, but as with most my initial impression is that he's pinin' for the fjords citizenship, and the contributions seem to be generally lacking at this juncture.

[y2day]

He didn't PM me. Just for that I'm voting yes!

Seriously, more is needed for the rank of Artifex. I will review his posts but I don't think it is enough at this time.

[Soulghast]

I'm getting the impression this is a joke application. He must be among the worst candidates ever put before the CdeC.

[Augustus Lucifer]

I get the feeling I'm wasting my time here. Just went through the threads he included in his paragraph, and it looks like he wasn't even a main player in them.

Do you find Obama a good president of the USA ?

His only post beyond the OP:

How thinks Obama is not gonna make it those four years of president ?
I mean is he not gonna be assassinated ?

Are you prepared to die for your belief ?

No posts beyond the OP.

The fiancial crisis will not stop soon.

Two posts with... no real content.

If you think one second you know the crisis is gonna be more then 2 years.

The Amercan goverment has pout bilions of dollars in those comany's that where olmost bankrupt,and when are they gonna pay back to the state?
Not they will never repay there debt the just don't have the money all these factors play a roll in the crisis.

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I've gone through all of them but I don't see any point doing that for each one. Most of them have him being overshadowed by a large group of other posters, if he posts at all. A Citizen can't be expected to always carry the thread, but you'd expect that every Civitate can carry at least one thread or be a main player in most. He seems to just chime in with his 2c now and again without really adding anything to the discussion besides a talking point for other people to add to it.

The TotW submissions are... okay. The same can be said of the AARs. The mod proposals are just that, proposals, and I sincerely hope he doesn't pursue them, because there's way to many mods out there that someone with no desire to learn modding skills tries to start that just end up being a time-suck. Now if he wants to learn modding skills then okay, but I'm a believer that if you have a lot more mod ideas than progress it will never end well. I could give a few examples of people who are like this and start 10 mods because they like the concept and none go anywhere, but I see no point in doing so.

We can sit here and say that English is not his first language and fluency is not a pre-requisite for Citizenship, but the fact of the matter is to debate people have to understand you. I don't go post on Japanese forums despite being a student of the language because it would sound like gibberish to Japanese people. I don't know what nationality this user is, but there are plenty of other language forums out there for the TW games, many of which are our affiliates. So while we can't expect grammatical and literary fluency from ESL members, we have to remember that if you can't read and comprehend what someone is saying it's mighty hard to debate them about it. It's fine where actions speak louder than words, but when all you have to offer is words and the points are covered in a veil of unknown meaning, there's little room to consider it a contribution.

So I'm not going to ask this user to go improve his English, though it would certainly help him here and in his life. But what I do expect to see from him is more action, because all I have to go on right now are words, many of which are hard to understand.

[Viking Prince]

• First, asking for a patron is not even a tiny reason to not support the patron's submission.
• Last I checked, we do not require perfect English. This is an English language site, and I am certain members post with the tools that they have.
• Often, we complain that the citizen does not do enough, Now, I see that doing nearly everything with the goal of citizenship is also a demerit.
• Whether the application is for Citivate, Artifex, or Citizen -- we should not disqualify if the label is incorrect. Consider this for citizen since it seems to be a blending of the two. Other than the thread title, I cannot see why the application should be for Artifex

With that little rant behind me, I shall delve into what I learned of the applicant.

The applicant does indeed post a bit everywhere, which is ok.

The D&D posts are usually a one liner and no new data or sources to add to ther discussion. When the applicant starts a D&D thread, the thread is a large cut and past and only a few lines at most of the applicants own thoughts. There is very little follow up in the threads started. The follow up that does exist seems consistent with the short comments without additional information that the applicant uses to respond to other members threads.

Based upon what I see in the D&D, it is a good start on a contribution -- but I think the applicant needs some guidance for growth and development here. It might be his age or academic background, but there needs to be more here to count. On the plus side, he is under control and not trollish -- a good poster from a moderation standpoint.

The contributions to the Tale of the Week do indeed take time and effort. I count these as a contribution. If these were six submissions of work for six issues of ES or Helios, this would also count for something -- not alone , but count. The Tale of the Week should hold as much weight. The stories are not weekly winners, but I can assure CdeC, that is not an easy achievement.

As for the AAR's -- he is working and I am certain practice improves results. A comment from early in the first attempt:

The new updated text is good. It shows a willingness to change and revise what you have written. All it takes now is practice, and you'll get better as you continue to write your AAR. I like it.

The first AAR was a 6 part over 3 weeks. I would say completetion is a very good sign. The second attempt is a work in progress. It is also in the narrative style. This is better which shows that practice is needed to improve any skill. It still will not be a competition winner or enter the Scriptorium, but I like to see improvement.

The modding ideas are just that -- ideas. Thereis nothing here to count yet.

To sum up -- the D&D needs to be stronger in the individual posts. The Tale of the Week is a solid start as a contribution. The AAR's are also a good start. In both cases, the applicant needs some work on style, plot and character development.

As of today, the answer is a very close no. I hope that the applicant returns in a few months with a stronger resume. The applicant has great potential.

[Soulghast]

First, asking for a patron is not even a tiny reason to not support the patron's submission.

Of course not, but when the member has PM'd a big number of people with the same PM, asking for Citizenship, then we have an issue.

Last I checked, we do not require perfect English. This is an English language site, and I am certain members post with the tools that they have.

No one ever required perfect English for Citizenship, but when someone is participating in the Discussion and Debate forums and wants to get his Citizenship through that contribution, good English speaking skills are necessary. And to be blunt, master's English is very far from perfect. In fact, it's so bad that I can hardly understand what he's trying to say most of the time.

Often, we complain that the citizen does not do enough, Now, I see that doing nearly everything with the goal of citizenship is also a demerit.

Well, seeing someone pursue Citizenship very ambitiously may irk some Councillors, and that is understandable. However, I personally don't care much about that.

Whether the application is for Citivate, Artifex, or Citizen -- we should not disqualify if the label is incorrect. Consider this for citizen since it seems to be a blending of the two. Other than the thread title, I cannot see why the application should be for Artifex

What the Councillors are supposed to judge here is whether a member's contributions, of any kind, are enough to grant him Citizenship. New Citizens can choose to display whatever badge they wish, whether the applicant is labelled as Artifex, Civitate or Citizen, it matters little.

Based upon what I see in the D&D, it is a good start on a contribution -- but I think the applicant needs some guidance for growth and development here. It might be his age or academic background, but there needs to be more here to count. On the plus side, he is under control and not trollish -- a good poster from a moderation standpoint.

No, it is no good start. I'll repeat that his poor english skills do not allow him to participate in the DD constructively. Most of his posts are one liners and many of them are simply incomprehensible. I see no potential of contribution in the DD.

The contributions to the Tale of the Week do indeed take time and effort. I count these as a contribution. If these were six submissions of work for six issues of ES or Helios, this would also count for something -- not alone , but count. The Tale of the Week should hold as much weight. The stories are not weekly winners, but I can assure CdeC, that is not an easy achievement.

That could have been the case if the stories actually made some sense. But they don't. They're crap, as was his Writing Competition submission. If you need to know why, just take the time and read them. And even if they were a bit better(say, your average TOTW submission), are we going to start awarding Citizenship for TOTW and POTW submissions?

The first AAR was a 6 part over 3 weeks. I would say completetion is a very good sign. The second attempt is a work in progress. It is also in the narrative style. This is better which shows that practice is needed to improve any skill. It still will not be a competition winner or enter the Scriptorium, but I like to see improvement.

It still ranks among the worst AARs on TWC. There is some improvement, but it's still pretty bad.

To sum up -- the D&D needs to be stronger in the individual posts. The Tale of the Week is a solid start as a contribution. The AAR's are also a good start. In both cases, the applicant needs some work on style, plot and character development.

All of what he does is of an amazingly poor quality. His works don't just need some improvement. They need to be completely overhauled if they are to stand on their own feet.

As of today, the answer is a very close no. I hope that the applicant returns in a few months with a stronger resume. The applicant has great potential.

So, someone who can hardly speak english, has absolutely no contributions(as the ones you stated are of an extremely poor quality to count), has gone around PMing dozens of people for Citizenship, and shows little promise of improvement is a "very close no"? It is my firm belief that this is one of the worst Citizenship Applications ever presented to the CdeC, and I was honestly shocked to see master being patronized.

[Astaroth]

• Whether the application is for Citivate, Artifex, or Citizen -- we should not disqualify if the label is incorrect. Consider this for citizen since it seems to be a blending of the two. Other than the thread title, I cannot see why the application should be for Artifex

Since I am the one who posted this application here I'd like to point out that I put "Artifex" in the title solely because his patron, Tony83, did the same in his topic in the Pater Familias subforum. Just so there are no misunderstandings.

[Xavier Dragnesi]

I am not sure what to say to this application... There are parts that have made me laugh, others that are far fetched without base, others that sound like a proper submission for the citizenship, and others which just seem out of place. He'd be better off just focussing on one out of that jumble of things that he is doing. I'm voting a no. Though he's a nice guy, I don't think he's fit for citizenship.

[the Black Prince]

bah, he didn't PM me either, and i'm the one most open to accepting such invitations...

[Viking Prince]

@Soulghast -- we are not so far apart. The applicant needs to improve his posts. Whether the problem is needing more care in editing due to the problems of English as a second language or due to basic learning issues of English itself -- there is room for improvement. From what I have seen, I think the language barrier is the most important for him to improve.

Just the simple need to write shorter sentences with far fewer commas would help a great deal.

[the Black Prince]

OK, done my own research now...

D&D we can discount. The language is not and should not be an issue. There are plenty of people with poor English who can get their point across. They may not be able to discuss the intricacies of antidisestablishmentarianism with the fluency and vocabulary of an english scholar, but thats irrelevant. In this guys case, the effort isn't there. He starts topics and abandons them, he posts one liners, he doesn't actually debate at all and i'm really not seeing the quality that tony refers too.

Modding, pointless inclusion. there's nothing there yet.

AARs and TOTW seem to be the areas where this guy is strongest, but by themselves, the contribution here is not sufficient. There is a great deal of scope for improvement here and in the future, maybe we do have a citizen, but right now, no.

[y2day]

antidisestablishmentarianism <====== wow what a word.

I looked and was just not enough for citizenship....

[Soulghast]

Poll added.