Are Pedophiles That bad?

[Chukada1]

Pedophilia isn't a choice, its a biological mutation. Just like being homosexual. The difference between a pedophile and a child molestor is the difference between a gay person, and a gay rapist. So why the hate for child lovers? Its not their fault they like Children, which is why I don't think child porn should be illegal. The majority of people looking at it, are those who fantasize, not the ones who actually break the law and rape children. So why the hate? Is it because you feel threatened? Or is it bigotry?

[Enemy of the State]

I agree that it is overhyped. Pedophiles are not hiding behind ever corner and I'm sure a very very small minority of them actually do anything besides fantasize.

[Helm]

But childporn involves child abuse, they will only make it if people are willing to pay for it.

People who pedophiles and don't act upon it aren't really a problem, no-one will know they're a pedophile anyway. You wouldn't want one looking after your kids though.

[Pallantides]

I don't really care if a person is pedophile or have those urges as long as they don't hurt or abuse children.

[Pontifex Maximus]

I agree. Punish people for acts, not thoughts or preference. Punishment doesn't need to be jail time either, public ridicule and demonization is also punishment. I think the hate exists because it isn't considered normal, and people fear what they do not understand. The majority of us have no perception of being attracted to children, so of course we can't understand it.

As far as legalizing child porn, I'm not too sure about this one. The first step would be lowering the age of consent, dramatically, and then there would need to be the assurance that those involved would be treated well, not abused, and consent to being involved.

You only ever hear about the bad things pedophiles do. I wonder if they do any good, like saving a kid's life? No point in even considering it, I guess, because nobody is going to publicize a heroic pedophile anyway.

[Chukada1]

As far as legalizing child porn, I'm not too sure about this one. The first step would be lowering the age of consent, dramatically, and then there would need to be the assurance that those involved would be treated well, not abused, and consent to being involved.

Children will always be abused, but they are far more resiliant then we give them credit for. Usually when you make something legal, it becomes more regulatory. Alchohol for example. Also, only the smallest percentage of people are sociopaths, the ones that commit child abuse. Opening up the market, doesn't create more monsters, but it does make child porn more abundent, and less profitable.

But childporn involves child abuse, they will only make it if people are willing to pay for it.

Please tell me how taking pictures is a form of abuse?

People who pedophiles and don't act upon it aren't really a problem, no-one will know they're a pedophile anyway. You wouldn't want one looking after your kids though.

If by act upon it, you mean download child porn, then yes. Many people are arrested simply for going to these internet sites. They didn't rape a child, or abduct one, so why the punishment? Will society persecute homesexuals for looking at gay porn?

[Helm]

Please tell me how taking pictures is a form of abuse?

It depends whats happening to them in those pictures.

[Muagan_ra]

Please tell me how taking pictures is a form of abuse?

This isn't Star Strek - there are no holo-decks where hypothetical scenario's can be recreated, and even if it where possible, it would still be morally wrong. You have enact something to picture it - please tell me how pictures of child abuse could possibly be anything but child abuse?

[Thorn777]

Good point. There are actually many pedophiles looking for help because they realize what harm they could cause and fear it themselves.

In Germany we had this program with thousands of pedophiles running successfully, but the government found it to expensive so they cut funds. IMO despicable, we need to support the ones seeking professional help, but I couldn't care less for the ones actually abusing/killing children.

[Treize]

Children are too young to play in a porn movie, they don't understand yet.
And if someone finds out later they will get harrased...

[Muagan_ra]

Pedophilia isn't a choice, its a biological mutation. Just like being homosexual.

... people throw this comparison around far too liberally. You simply can not defensibly compare an abusive non-consensual relationship to a consenting adult one; the two aren't in the same category. There is a difference between inclination, and acting upon those inclinations - that means that, yes, Paedophiles are that bad.

[Phier]

Pedophilia isn't a choice, its a biological mutation. Just like being homosexual. The difference between a pedophile and a child molestor is the difference between a gay person, and a gay rapist. So why the hate for child lovers? Its not their fault they like Children, which is why I don't think child porn should be illegal. The majority of people looking at it, are those who fantasize, not the ones who actually break the law and rape children. So why the hate? Is it because you feel threatened? Or is it bigotry?

Even if there is a genetic inclination for pedophilia so what, there are genetic inclinations for violence and we don't let people off the hook on that one. It is about acting out on it.

Now the idea of making child porn legal forgets that it means you need to legalize sex with a child. Sorry no.

Added if that were made legal somehow, just think what an enterprising person could do with this. The 'male' actors paying for the privilege *wink wink*.

No, I'm sorry, but no.

[Chlodwig I.]

Pedophilia isn't a choice, its a biological mutation. Just like being homosexual. The difference between a pedophile and a child molestor is the difference between a gay person, and a gay rapist. So why the hate for child lovers? Its not their fault they like Children, which is why I don't think child porn should be illegal. The majority of people looking at it, are those who fantasize, not the ones who actually break the law and rape children. So why the hate? Is it because you feel threatened? Or is it bigotry?

So for you it is ok that people look at pictures that are showing raped children to satisfy thier needs?

Thats sick.

You are talking about children
they have no developed sexuality...
you know the term adolescence, or maturation process?


Children and teenager haven't got the mental and spiritual development/maturity for give thier consent
(and even many adults haven't got that mental and spirtual maturity)

[Helm]

If it was a cartoon or something then ok. But better if they could seek psychological help instead, they're very sick people.

[MaximiIian]

If it was a cartoon or something then ok.

Yeah, but that's not actual child porn, despite what the Australian government has attempted to legislate.

Paedophiles have a strange sexual preference that is potentially harmful, due to it implicitly seeking the sexual abuse of minors. But, as long as they don't act on it, or contribute in the abuse of real children via patronage or production of real child pornography, then everything's gravy.

[Alba gu Brath]

The hate is because they are horrendous beings.

[Lancy]

Please tell me how taking pictures is a form of abuse?

Must ask, is this a troll thread?

If by act upon it, you mean download child porn, then yes. Many people are arrested simply for going to these internet sites. They didn't rape a child, or abduct one, so why the punishment? Will society persecute homesexuals for looking at gay porn?

Ah, now I see it. You dislike homosexuals so you come up with the absurd comparison between consenting gay adults and children who have been forced into sexual acts.

Bravo, very subtle.

[Da Skinna]

Are you all nuts?

Pedophilia and its acts are harmful, that's the difference between it and homosexuality.

To corroborate otherwise is insane.

[Pallantides]

I think anyone above the age of 15 should be allowed in porn if they want to.

[nopasties]

Pedophilia isn't a choice, its a biological mutation.

Proof?

Just like being homosexual.

No it is not catholic church

The difference between a pedophile and a child molestor is the difference between a gay person, and a gay rapist. So why the hate for child lovers?

NO, WTF is this this an arguement?

Its not their fault they like Children, which is why I don't think child porn should be illegal.

This is some of the most mushy, relativistic nonsense I've ever seen.

The majority of people looking at it, are those who fantasize, not the ones who actually break the law and rape children. So why the hate? Is it because you feel threatened? Or is it bigotry?

Any, any porn that includes actual rape should be illegal and prosecuted. Fantasy porn is something different but in this case I wouldn't have a problem with the government monitoring the rest of your internet and computer use for anyone that watches this stuff. Anyone who hates thes people has a proper moral compass. Feel threatened? WTF, it is called human decency. I understand some people are afflicted with this but as far as I'm concerned the moral thing to do then would be to isolate oneself or commit suicide before acting out anything.

If this was a troll than you have the poorest taste.