Are Hungarian and Turkish belong to same Laguage Family

**white-wolf** · June 27, 2009, 11:53 AM

There are several opinions about that.

Some say Hungarian and Turkish belong to same language family: Ural-Altaic.

Some say Uralic and Altaic are seperate language families.

What do you think about that?

**Babur** · June 27, 2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by white-wolf

There are several opinions about that.

Some say Hungarian and Turkish belong to same language family: Ural-Altaic.

Some say Uralic and Altaic are seperate language families.

What do you think about that?

I thought it was only Turanists who believed in such things lol with their proposed "Ural-Altaic union":

I don't think Magyars and Turks belong to the same language family.

**iudas** · June 30, 2009, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

I thought it was only Turanists who believed in such things lol with their proposed "Ural-Altaic union":

I don't think Magyars and Turks belong to the same language family.

Hungary owns Transylvania according to that map.

**~~arkeologen~~** · June 30, 2009, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by SirPaladin

Hungary owns Transylvania according to that map.

Yep exactly as it should be.

On topic however, Turkish and Hungarian belongs to different language families.

**Antwerpen** · June 30, 2009, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan

I'm sorry, Chagatai, but this map seems to make no sense. How come Azeri language and Turkish language are different language families if their modern languages are so very similar?

**white-wolf** · June 30, 2009, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Xomiak

I'm sorry, Chagatai, but this map seems to make no sense. How come Azeri language and Turkish language are different language families if their modern languages are so very similar?

That map is not to show languages. It shows there are still ~~idiots~~ wet-dreaming youngs in the world who belive in Turan.

**Babur** · June 30, 2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Xomiak

I'm sorry, Chagatai, but this map seems to make no sense. How come Azeri language and Turkish language are different language families if their modern languages are so very similar?

as White-Wolf said that is the dream of Ural-Altaic Turanists who wish to see a union of Uralic and Altai speaking peoples.Azeri and Turkish both belong to the Turkic language family so I don't know what you mean.

**Icewolf** · June 27, 2009, 07:53 PM

i thought hungarian was a mix of russian and the scandinavian languages

**Babur** · June 27, 2009, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Icewolf

i thought hungarian was a mix of russian and the scandinavian languages

they're classified as a Uralic language

Russian is a Slavic language which is a sub-group of the larger Indo-European language group

**Arto** · June 28, 2009, 02:19 PM

How come Hungarian has more in common with Finnish than Turkish?

**~~Ummon~~** · June 28, 2009, 02:34 PM

Because they are the Hugro-Finnish language group.

**rusina** · June 29, 2009, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ummon

Because they are the Hugro-Finnish language group.

Ugro-Finnic.

**white-wolf** · June 29, 2009, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by rusina

Ugro-Finnic.

Isn't it Uralic language family?

**Tiwaz** · June 29, 2009, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by white-wolf

Isn't it Uralic language family?

In short... No.

Separate language family.

Of course, if you managed to dig far enough you would find Finno-Ugric and Turkic-Altaic groups have same sources, but at that point you could say the same thing about every other language family.

**white-wolf** · June 30, 2009, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Tiwaz

In short... No.

Separate language family.

Of course, if you managed to dig far enough you would find Finno-Ugric and Turkic-Altaic groups have same sources, but at that point you could say the same thing about every other language family.

Wrong.

I really understand your need to distance Uralic and Altaic.

It is hard to swallow that Fin people and Hungarian people are not Aryans. They are closer to Turks than Indo-Europeans.

**~~Ummon~~** · June 29, 2009, 04:57 AM

My excuses. Translating thoughts often yelds mongrels.

**Black_Panther** · June 29, 2009, 12:54 PM

hm as far as i know hungarian has actually nothing in common with turkish. Hungarian is a "finno-ugric" language, meaning it originates somewhere in central russia and came to middle europe when the hungarians settled in todays Hungary after being defeated by the german emperor in the 10th century (i think ;D).
the only reason why people think its similar to turkish is that some turkish words got borrowed by the hungarians due to the ottoman occupation of hungary and the balkan states.

cheers