Roman Naming System

**Caligula Caesar** · June 26, 2009, 01:04 PM

It has been said in the "welcome mat" thread that the Roman names are "ridiculous". Since that thread isn't exactly the right place to discuss it, I have made this thread.

Minucius: How exactly did the Roman names work?

It is easy enough - if time consuming - to edit names. It is possible to edit first names and surnames. If you want anything in between, it either has to be attached to the first or the surname. The surname is inherited; the first one not. If it is possible to change them within these constraints, I can give it a try.

**Minucius** · June 26, 2009, 09:36 PM

First of all what follows applies for the aristocracy - who are the only people we're interested with as characters in the mod, I am sure. (I think it would work just as well for most of the Roman peasantry, but I'm not sure)

Basically a Roman man's name had 2 or 3 parts. All had a Praenomen (first name) Nomen (clan name) and Cognomen (nickname).
Nomena were always inherited. Cognomena were usually inherited, but were often particular to an individual (e.g. cognomena like Strabo "Squinty" or Vopiscus "survivor of twins"). Some families did not use cognomena at all. So the basic system in place if it works as I think it does is fairly sound - Praenomena are the first names, Nomen + Cognomen can be treated as the surname.

The real problem is the the Praenomen, and how it combines with the rest of the name. Families tended to use the same tiny set of praenomena over the generations. e.g. the dictator Gaius Julius Caesar was the son of Gaius Julius Caesar who was the son of... Gaius Julius Caesar. His cousin Lucius Julius Caesar was the son of another Lucius Julius Caesar and had one son, Lucius Julius Caesar. If you ever come across a Julius Caesar in the Republic, his first name will be almost certainly either Gaius, Sextus or Lucius. If you ever came across an important man, he would almost certainly be known by either Aulus, Gaius, Gnaeus, Lucius, Marcus, Publius, Quintus, Titus or Tiberius.

The use of some praenomens was limited to a single family. For example Appius was used only by the Claudii. Mamercus used only by the Aemilii.

Women only ever had one official name - the female form of their father's nomen, although within families they were often known by diminutives or by extra names to tell them apart. For the six men I mention above, their daughters, sisters and paternal aunts were all called Julia. All the daughters of men with the Nomen Cornelius would be Cornelia. etc.

When a man was adopted (adoption worked very differently to how it does in our culture) he took the name of his adoptive father (which was the whole point of adoption, keeping the name alive) but kept part of his birth name in some form as an extra cognomen. This was either an adaption of his nomen at birth, or his original cognomen. Examples of the two are:
Scipio Aemilianus - he was born as an Aemilius, but when he was adopted by Publius Cornelius Scipio, his name became Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus.
Brutus (the assasin) - born Marcus Junius Brutus, he was adopted by his uncle Quintus Servilius Caepio, becoming Quintus Servilius Caepio Brutus. (he later went back to his birth name.)

There is the odd exception, but this system holds true for the last centuries of the Republic. It broke down somewhat under the Empire, but that is beyond the scope of the mod, is it not?

Anyway, I could understand if you didn't want (or couldn't) implement the real way that the Romans used first names. But I think some of the most obvious silly names could be avoided - the list of first names includes quite a few Nomena and Cognomena that were never used as Praenomena, and some that didn't come into play until the Republic was dead and buried. It also has duplicates - Caius and Gaius, Cnaeus and Gnaeus - the names are the same, but confusion has arised because the letter G didn't yet exist when the conventions for Roman initials were developed. Gaius and Gnaeus are generally preferred today, older works tend to use Caius and Cnaeus. Having Augustus in the list is particularly silly - it was a word so awesome in its nature that there is no way it would have been used under the Republic. It is essentially synonymous with Emperor, how we use the word today.

Sorry if this is confusing, I am not very good at explaining things simply!

**Caligula Caesar** · June 27, 2009, 04:53 AM

Well, some of those things are either impossible or well beyond me, but the silly names can be changed. Since I don't have your knowledge, though, I can't do it. But you can, if you want to. It is pretty simple: You go to the ExRM directory and find the file "descr_names". In it, go to the Roman section and place a semi colon (

in front of all of the first and surnames that weren't used. If you want to add any names, you have to add it there and in "descr_names_lookup" and in "names" (in the text folder).

Good luck

CC

**Minucius** · June 27, 2009, 06:52 AM

Yes I had surmised as much, however the reason I raised this was not so it would or could be fixed for myself (tbh I pay next to no attention to the names and family relationships) but to offer to assist on the historical side if the powers that be wanted to make it more historically accurate in the official mod. After all, Realism is its middle name.

**Bona Dea** · July 12, 2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Caligula Caesar

Well, some of those things are either impossible or well beyond me, but the silly names can be changed. Since I don't have your knowledge, though, I can't do it. But you can, if you want to. It is pretty simple: You go to the ExRM directory and find the file "descr_names". In it, go to the Roman section and place a semi colon (

in front of all of the first and surnames that weren't used. If you want to add any names, you have to add it there and in "descr_names_lookup" and in "names" (in the text folder).

So... I have to locate the file "descr_names" to exclude some names with an semicolon?
For example ;Augustus ?

In the roman section of "descr_names" there are still different factions like roman_brutii but I guess these are replaced factions? Am I right?

And if I want to add some names in the text folder... for example Atia... I have to write it the same way like in the file? Like {Atia} Atia

Sry, I'm a little bit confused :-/

**Caligula Caesar** · July 13, 2009, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Bona Dea

So... I have to locate the file "descr_names" to exclude some names with an semicolon?
For example ;Augustus ?

Yes.

I

Originally Posted by Bona Dea

n the roman section of "descr_names" there are still different factions like roman_brutii but I guess these are replaced factions? Am I right?

Yes, you are. The Brutii are now the Galatians, nad the Scipii the Britons (and the Britons the Illyrians). It is like that because it is easier to change and existing faction than to make a new one from scratch.

Originally Posted by Bona Dea

And if I want to add some names in the text folder... for example Atia... I have to write it the same way like in the file? Like {Atia} Atia

Yes, just add it like it is in the file.

Originally Posted by Bona Dea

Sry, I'm a little bit confused :-/

Don't worry. Modding is confusing until you get the hang of it.

**AncientSoldier** · July 22, 2009, 02:31 PM

If I did know how to name them I would name my best general Constantine.My favorite roman general.

**Caligula Caesar** · June 27, 2009, 03:38 PM

Well, it would take quite a lot of research for me (or anyone else - though there doesn't actually seem to be anyone else doing anything for the mod with Quinn not here) to find out exactly with names aren't plausible and which are.

**Minucius** · June 27, 2009, 07:33 PM

No research needed at all really. Reducing the list of first names to the top 11 would make the names a lot more sensible historically.
If it works as I think it would, it could be further tweaked by having duplicates, to have the most common names pop out more often. I put rough guesstimates of the proportions in parenthesis after the names that I'd retain.

faction: romans_julii
characters
Aulus (2)
Gaius (10)
Gnaeus (3)
Lucius (10)
Manius (1)
Marcus (12)
Publius (9)
Quintus (5)
Sextus (3)
Tiberius (3)
Titus (3)

DELETE

Duplicates with 19th century spelling
Caius
Cnaeus

Duplicate mis-spelled
Quintis

Family names, not first names
Amulius
Cassius
Cornelius
Oppius
Valerius
Vibius
Herennius
Asinius
Flavius
Herius

Cognomena, not first names
Julianus
Lentulus
Marcellus
Nero
Decius
Augustus

Valid first names but very very rare or limited to just one or two families
Kaeso
Secundus
Servius
Spurius
Appius
Decimus
Numerius
Tertius

Anachronistic, characters from The Godfather, or seemingly randomly invented
Galerius
Luca
Placus

**Caligula Caesar** · July 23, 2009, 06:32 AM

Just go to descr_strat and name one of your generals Constantine. Then go to names, descr_names and descr_names_lookup and add Constantine there (under the correct faction in descr_names).

**Antonov** · August 07, 2009, 10:23 AM

I'll convert the names on my copy of the mod to be more historical and when Quinn gets back, we'll decide what to do for the 3.5 version. But I'm all for having historical names, even if the list is shorter.

**Caligula Caesar** · August 07, 2009, 12:35 PM

I'm afraid we may have to make the 3.5 version ourselves. To be honest, we can hope Quinn will come back, as he is far more knowledgable on modding and on history than any of us here, but we must be realistic...

BTW, I looked at the Macedonian names, and whilst I don't know every name they used, I am sure they didn't have quite so many in the ruling class. When I look at Alexander's generals and the successor leaders and generals, a few names keep cropping up again and again (e.g. Perdiccas, Menander, Meleagros, Seleukos, Ptolemaios, Antiokhos, Molon and quite a few more).

Edit: Actually, Quinn logged on today. He just isn't making his presence known (a bit like the invisible man in the sky

)

**Antonov** · August 07, 2009, 02:48 PM

Yes, that's why I'm hoping he'll drop a line eventually

Then he get sucked in again

I have his "to do list" in my PM archive but I'm not sure I understand many of the tasks there. Guess I'll just start by changing the things in the mod that look strange to me... The unit list seems pretty disorganized for example. I also have a larger version of the campaign map which I think exists only in my copy of the mod... I'm not sure for how long will I myself be unoccupied, with other non-mod things, though.

Alright, let's do the names then. Since we don't have a version control system to keep the same versions of files everywhere, I'll convert mine and send the file to you, ok?

Edit:
I've made the changes Minucius suggested. I've moved all the family names into the 'surnames section' and every newly created family name has a variant with every newly created cognomen. I have also multiplied the character names in the list, so they are seen more frequently. The current list of male names is like this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

faction: romans_julii

characters
Aulus
Aulus
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gnaeus
Gnaeus
Gnaeus
Kaeso
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Manius
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Numerius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Secundus
Servius
Sextus
Sextus
Sextus
Spurius
Tertius
Tiberius
Tiberius
Tiberius
Titus
Titus
Titus
Appius
Decimus

surnames
Amulius Augustus
Asinius Augustus
Cassius Augustus
Cornelius Augustus
Flavius Augustus
Herius Augustus
Herennius Augustus
Oppius Augustus
Valerius Augustus
Vibius Augustus
Amulius Decius
Asinius Decius
Cassius Decius
Cornelius Decius
Flavius Decius
Herius Decius
Herennius Decius
Oppius Decius
Valerius Decius
Vibius Decius
Amulius Julianus
Asinius Julianus
Cassius Julianus
Cornelius Julianus
Flavius Julianus
Herius Julianus
Herennius Julianus
Oppius Julianus
Valerius Julianus
Vibius Julianus
Amulius Lentulus
Asinius Lentulus
Cassius Lentulus
Cornelius Lentulus
Flavius Lentulus
Herius Lentulus
Herennius Lentulus
Oppius Lentulus
Valerius Lentulus
Vibius Lentulus
Amulius Lentulus
Asinius Lentulus
Cassius Lentulus
Cornelius Lentulus
Flavius Lentulus
Herius Lentulus
Herennius Lentulus
Oppius Lentulus
Valerius Lentulus
Vibius Lentulus
Amulius Nero
Asinius Nero
Cassius Nero
Cornelius Nero
Flavius Nero
Herius Nero
Herennius Nero
Oppius Nero
Valerius Nero
Vibius Nero
Amulius Marcellus
Asinius Marcellus
Cassius Marcellus
Cornelius Marcellus
Flavius Marcellus
Herius Marcellus
Herennius Marcellus
Oppius Marcellus
Valerius Marcellus
Vibius Marcellus
Acilius Balbus
Acilius Glabrio
Aelius Ligus
Aelius Paetus
Aemilius Barbula
Aemilius Lepidus
Aemilius Papus
Aemilius Paullus
Aemilius Scaurus
Afranius
Anicius Gallus
Annius Luscus
Annius Rufus
Antonius
Appuleius Pansa
Apustius Fullo
Aquilius
Asinius Pollio
Atilius Bulbus
Atilius Calatinus
Atilius Regulus
Atilius Serranus
Aufidius Orestes
Aurelius Cotta
Aurelius Orestes
Aurelius Scaurus
Baebius Tamphilus
Caecilius Metellus
Calpurnius Bestia
Calpurnius Bibulus
Calpurnius Piso
Calvisius Sabinus
Caninius Gallus
Carvilius Marcellus
Cassius Longinus
Cilnius Maecenas
Claudius Caecus
Claudius Marcellus
Claudius Nero
Clodius Pulcher
Cocceius Nerva
Coelius Caldus
Cornelius Arvina
Cornelius Cethegus
Cornelius Cinna
Cornelius Dolabella
Cornelius Lentulus
Cornelius Scipio
Cornelius Sulla
Curius Dentatus
Decius Mus
Domitius Ahenobarbus
Domitius Calvinus
Domitius Corbulo
Fabius Licinus
Fabius Maximus
Fabius Pictor
Fabricius Luscinus
Flavius Fimbria
Fufius Calenus
Fulvius Centumalus
Fulvius Flaccus
Fulvius Nobilior
Fulvius Paetinus
Fundanius Fundulus
Furius Camillus
Furius Philus
Gabinius
Gellius Publicola
Helvius Cinna
Hostilius Mancinus
Iulius Caesar
Iunius Brutus
Iunius Pera
Iunius Silanus
Licinius Crassus
Licinius Lucullus
Licinius Murena
Livius Drusus
Livius Salinator
Lutatius Catulus
Mallius Maximus
Mamilius Vitulus
Manlius Torquatus
Manlius Vulso
Marcius Philippus
Marcius Rex
Marcius Tremulus
Marius
Minucius Rufus
Mucius Scaevola
Munatius Plancus
Otacilius Crassus
Papirius Carbo
Papirius Cursor
Papirius Maso
Plautius Silvanus
Poetelius Libo
Pompeius
Pomponius Matho
Popillius Laenas
Porcius Cato
Porcius Licinus
Postumius Albinus
Postumius Megellus
Publicius Malleolus
Publilius Philo
Pupius Piso
Quinctius Crispinus
Quinctius Flaminius
Rutilius Lupus
Rutilius Rufus
Scribonius Curio
Scribonius Libo
Sempronius Blaesus
Sempronius Gracchus
Sempronius Longus
Sempronius Tuditanus
Servilius Caepio
Servilius Isauricus
Sextius Calvinus
Sulpicius Galba
Sulpicius Rufus
Terentius Varro
Tullius Cicero
Tullius Decula
Valerius Corvus
Valerius Falto
Valerius Flaccus
Valerius Laevinus
Valerius Rufus
Valerius Messalla
Veturius Philo
Vibius Pansa
Vipsanius Agrippa

I'll need confirmation on the historicity of all the surnames from 'Acilius Balbus' onwards. Thanks for the help

Edit2:
Oh a small fly in the soup that just came to mind: This is the pool from which *all* character names are formed, not just those of the family members. Meaning that we'll have just the same probability of having assassins named Gaius as we'll have of having a faction leader by the same name...

BTW - do I have to make the same number of duplicates in the descr_name_lookup.txt file?

**Minucius** · August 07, 2009, 09:51 PM

Ok some things have been lost in translation I think.

First of all, I'd get rid of Augustus completely. It in effect means Emperor, so it's ahistorical for the period the mod is set in. The combinations of Lentulus, Nero etc. with all the nomena are not really a good idea either, only a few of the combinations were ever used.

The issue with the names for spies and assassins is not the first names - as far as I know the common people used the same restricted set of names - but rather they'll all have names of the nobility. You can rationalise this a little bit - when a foreigner was given citizenship (including manumission of a slave), a common practice, he'd inherit the praenomen and nomen of his patron/master and keep his original name as a cognomen. A couple of examples: the famous Cicero had a slave called Tiro, when he freed that slave Tiro became Marcus Tullius Tiro. Caesar had two enormously rich bankers (uncle and nephew) who were originally Spanish and their original family name was Byblos, when they got Roman citizenship, officially from a Lucius Cornelius, they both became Lucius Cornelius Balbus (Balbus being a Latin cognomen closest to their own name). It's still far from perfect as noble and the more common man wouldn't share the same cognomena usually, but it's about the best you can do.

From the list stating Acilius Balbus on most of the names look ok. I'd delete two
Porcius Licinus (it's both wrong - Licinianus would be the name - and a very rare case at that time - essentially a Marcus Porcius Cato usually known to us as Cato the Censor had two wives, the second of which was the daughter of a freed slave. Two tell the two lines of descendents apart they were referred to as the Porcii Liciniani and the Porcii Salonianii, but they didn't really use Licinianus or Salonianus as part of their names). Taking the name of your mother as a cognomen was common practice only under the Empire (an example is the emperor Vespasian, Titus Flavius Vespasianus whose father was Titus Flavius Sabinus and mother was Vespasia).
Vipsanius Agrippa - a name that only came to prominence under the empire in the form of Augustus' right hand man who had humble origins.

Sorry if it's muddled, I know it's complicated if you're new to it, but I figure it's best to justify anything I suggest.

**Antonov** · August 08, 2009, 02:14 AM

No, it's very interesting actually, for a guy who hasn't time to read the real history books

You really know these things inside out, do you teach Roman history somewhere?

I have deleted the Augusts and Nero blocks of names. There was also an occasional Claudius Nero in the original set of surnames, I deleted that one too. So, current list of male names:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

faction: romans_julii

characters

Aulus
Aulus
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gaius
Gnaeus
Gnaeus
Gnaeus
Kaeso
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Lucius
Manius
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Marcus
Numerius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Publius
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Quintus
Secundus
Servius
Sextus
Sextus
Sextus
Spurius
Tertius
Tiberius
Tiberius
Tiberius
Titus
Titus
Titus
Appius
Decimus

surnames

Amulius Decius
Asinius Decius
Cassius Decius
Cornelius Decius
Flavius Decius
Herius Decius
Herennius Decius
Oppius Decius
Valerius Decius
Vibius Decius
Amulius Julianus
Asinius Julianus
Cassius Julianus
Cornelius Julianus
Flavius Julianus
Herius Julianus
Herennius Julianus
Oppius Julianus
Valerius Julianus
Vibius Julianus
Amulius Lentulus
Asinius Lentulus
Cassius Lentulus
Cornelius Lentulus
Flavius Lentulus
Herius Lentulus
Herennius Lentulus
Oppius Lentulus
Valerius Lentulus
Vibius Lentulus
Amulius Lentulus
Asinius Lentulus
Cassius Lentulus
Cornelius Lentulus
Flavius Lentulus
Herius Lentulus
Herennius Lentulus
Oppius Lentulus
Valerius Lentulus
Vibius Lentulus
Amulius Marcellus
Asinius Marcellus
Cassius Marcellus
Cornelius Marcellus
Flavius Marcellus
Herius Marcellus
Herennius Marcellus
Oppius Marcellus
Valerius Marcellus
Vibius Marcellus
Acilius Balbus
Acilius Glabrio
Aelius Ligus
Aelius Paetus
Aemilius Barbula
Aemilius Lepidus
Aemilius Papus
Aemilius Paullus
Aemilius Scaurus
Afranius
Anicius Gallus
Annius Luscus
Annius Rufus
Antonius
Appuleius Pansa
Apustius Fullo
Aquilius
Asinius Pollio
Atilius Bulbus
Atilius Calatinus
Atilius Regulus
Atilius Serranus
Aufidius Orestes
Aurelius Cotta
Aurelius Orestes
Aurelius Scaurus
Baebius Tamphilus
Caecilius Metellus
Calpurnius Bestia
Calpurnius Bibulus
Calpurnius Piso
Calvisius Sabinus
Caninius Gallus
Carvilius Marcellus
Cassius Longinus
Cilnius Maecenas
Claudius Caecus
Claudius Marcellus
Clodius Pulcher
Cocceius Nerva
Coelius Caldus
Cornelius Arvina
Cornelius Cethegus
Cornelius Cinna
Cornelius Dolabella
Cornelius Lentulus
Cornelius Scipio
Cornelius Sulla
Curius Dentatus
Decius Mus
Domitius Ahenobarbus
Domitius Calvinus
Domitius Corbulo
Fabius Licinus
Fabius Maximus
Fabius Pictor
Fabricius Luscinus
Flavius Fimbria
Fufius Calenus
Fulvius Centumalus
Fulvius Flaccus
Fulvius Nobilior
Fulvius Paetinus
Fundanius Fundulus
Furius Camillus
Furius Philus
Gabinius
Gellius Publicola
Helvius Cinna
Hostilius Mancinus
Iulius Caesar
Iunius Brutus
Iunius Pera
Iunius Silanus
Licinius Crassus
Licinius Lucullus
Licinius Murena
Livius Drusus
Livius Salinator
Lutatius Catulus
Mallius Maximus
Mamilius Vitulus
Manlius Torquatus
Manlius Vulso
Marcius Philippus
Marcius Rex
Marcius Tremulus
Marius
Minucius Rufus
Mucius Scaevola
Munatius Plancus
Otacilius Crassus
Papirius Carbo
Papirius Cursor
Papirius Maso
Plautius Silvanus
Poetelius Libo
Pompeius
Pomponius Matho
Popillius Laenas
Porcius Cato
Postumius Albinus
Postumius Megellus
Publicius Malleolus
Publilius Philo
Pupius Piso
Quinctius Crispinus
Quinctius Flaminius
Rutilius Lupus
Rutilius Rufus
Scribonius Curio
Scribonius Libo
Sempronius Blaesus
Sempronius Gracchus
Sempronius Longus
Sempronius Tuditanus
Servilius Caepio
Servilius Isauricus
Sextius Calvinus
Sulpicius Galba
Sulpicius Rufus
Terentius Varro
Tullius Cicero
Tullius Decula
Valerius Corvus
Valerius Falto
Valerius Flaccus
Valerius Laevinus
Valerius Rufus
Valerius Messalla
Veturius Philo
Vibius Pansa

What can we do about female names though? You say they changed after the husband's first name but we can't code that into the game logic

And if we change their names to the feminine counterparts of the male names we risk depicting a very spoiled roman society where every man's wife cheats on him

**Minucius** · August 08, 2009, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Antonov

No, it's very interesting actually, for a guy who hasn't time to read the real history books

You really know these things inside out, do you teach Roman history somewhere?

No I don't teach it, but I read a lot of it. The names can be very humourus as well. Two that come to mind are Sesquiculus, literally :wub:-and-a-half (although usually euphemised as meaning one and a half buttocks

), and another was Culleolus "wrinkly scrotum". Toilet humour is definitely not a modern invention.

**stormer** · August 08, 2009, 02:35 AM

Why isn't there a Julius in the list of names?

**Antonov** · August 08, 2009, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by stormer

Why isn't there a Julius in the list of names?

There is a "Iulius Caesar"

Probably you just searched for Julius. Or you mean in the list of first names?

@Caligula Caresar: Thanks

I removed Claudius Nero because of the "Nero". I experienced the CTD myself but wasn't much surprised after reading about your problems with that after changing the names. Have you tried creating the same amount of duplicates you have in descr_names.txt but make it in descr_names_lookup.txt as well? I can't test it right now because I'm busy composing a map of the provinces with elephant resource.

**stormer** · August 09, 2009, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Antonov

There is a "Iulius Caesar"

Probably you just searched for Julius. Or you mean in the list of first names?

@Caligula Caresar: Thanks

I removed Claudius Nero because of the "Nero". I experienced the CTD myself but wasn't much surprised after reading about your problems with that after changing the names. Have you tried creating the same amount of duplicates you have in descr_names.txt but make it in descr_names_lookup.txt as well? I can't test it right now because I'm busy composing a map of the provinces with elephant resource.

Oh yes I forgot about the I as I was looking for a Julius.

**Sardaukar One** · August 09, 2009, 12:05 PM

How do I add a surname?

I was going to play an Epirote campaign, and saw that Pyrrhus is called Pyrrhus and not Pyrrhus of Epirus.
How can I add the "of Epirus" to his name. Thats what he's named in the descr.stat file!

How would I change that?

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