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    Okay, so I'm sad people think I'm "trolling" - I am only posting controversial questions, so you can have a debate and not a mindless confirmation of your own ideas. Take it in the spirit of challenge.

    I will bring light to this darkened room called "Ethos, Mores, et Monastica."

    Anyway, I think Christian views are insane. Why do Christians think the dead should be buried to the ground, if they also think that the body resurrects? What's the point of the burial ceremony, why not just scrap the body or feed it to the pigs? And don't me give the crap please, that "the body needs to be properly respected", etc., didn't Jesus teach that soul is superior to body, and body is only a temporary bearer of our soul connected to God? Isn't the burial pure materialism - sticking to the material remains of the dead?

    And if they think that in the death the soul leaves the inferior body behind, why do they build a memento to this inferior body? Why not praise the soul instead?

    PS I swear I will not add a poll. However, if you have poll ideas, feel free to post them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu'a'ihiwalu View Post
    Okay, so I'm sad people think I'm "trolling" - I am only posting controversial questions, so you can have a debate and not a mindless confirmation of your own ideas. Take it in the spirit of challenge.

    I will bring light to this darkened room called "Ethos, Mores, et Monastica." You betcha!

    Anyway, I think Christian views are insane. Why do Christians think the dead should be buried to the ground, if they also think that the body resurrects? What's the point of the burial ceremony, why not just scrap the body or feed it to the pigs? And don't me give the crap please, that "the body needs to be properly respected", etc., didn't Jesus teach that soul is superior to body, and body is only a temporary bearer of our soul connected to God? Isn't the burial pure materialism - sticking to the material remains of the dead?

    And if they think that in the death the soul leaves the inferior body behind, why do they build a memento to this inferior body? Why not praise the soul instead?

    PS I swear I will not add a poll. However, if you have poll ideas, feel free to post them.


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    Perhaps if your views were controversial they would be better. In reality, the only person willing to argue for them is you. Added to your ,frankly, ignorance on certain matters, that makes trolling.

    1. Christians do not beleive the body ressurrects, where on earth did you go to school? Jamaican voodoo magicians believe that, not Christians.

    2. Why do we bury bodies? Why do we not drink our own urine? Dead bodies decompose. It is a tradition going back before even homo sapiens to bury or incinerate our dead. It protects us from diseases and rats and other such feeders of carrion.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    1. Christians do not beleive the body ressurrects, where on earth did you go to school? Jamaican voodoo magicians believe that, not Christians.
    It used to be a big thing in Judaism though, didn't it ? Ran into some major logical problems once the "Tribe of Israel" spread all over the place, naturally, since the resurrected faithful were supposed to physically return to the Promised Land too, if memory serves...

    No such thing in Christianity far as I know, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    Perhaps if your views were controversial they would be better. In reality, the only person willing to argue for them is you. Added to your ,frankly, ignorance on certain matters, that makes trolling.

    1. Christians do not beleive the body ressurrects, where on earth did you go to school? Jamaican voodoo magicians believe that, not Christians.

    2. Why do we bury bodies? Why do we not drink our own urine? Dead bodies decompose. It is a tradition going back before even homo sapiens to bury or incinerate our dead. It protects us from diseases and rats and other such feeders of carrion.
    You are wrong, Orthodox church believes in the ressurection of the soul and the body too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaler View Post
    You are wrong, Orthodox church believes in the ressurection of the soul and the body too.
    The problem's still there, if the body resurrects, why the hell would you bury the body if it resurrects later on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu'a'ihiwalu View Post
    The problem's still there, if the body resurrects, why the hell would you bury the body if it resurrects later on?
    To keep it safe and get rid of infectious dead. Anyway, I think burial wasn't introduced wildly in Christianity until the great plague.
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    ...which great plague ? There's been a lot of them over the millenia...

    Anyway, burying dead bodies (or their cremated remains) in earth is an *extremely* ancient custom going back well into the murky mists of early Stone Age or beyond. If nothing else, it got the dead folks out of the way of the living (and got rid of most of the more unseemly side effects of the decomposition process...) and disposed of the dead body with relatively little trouble. Alternatives include the Zoroastrian practice of leaving the dead in high towers for vultures (regarded as the messengers of the god(s)) to strip clean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by orko View Post
    To keep it safe and get rid of infectious dead. Anyway, I think burial wasn't introduced wildly in Christianity until the great plague.
    The first Christians, or cryptochristians would be more correct, were buried too.

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    Christians burry people since Jesus was buried too. Also, as you say, the body needs to be properly respected, because then what would be the difference beween a dead animal and a dead human body?

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    Actually, Christians believe that the body resurrects after Judgement Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Actually, Christians believe that the body resurrects after Judgement Day.
    What happens to the bodies until then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu'a'ihiwalu View Post
    What happens to the bodies until then?
    What a question is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaler View Post
    What a question is this?
    Inane ?

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    Inane ?
    rhetorical

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    Burial and respect for the body is not a Christian belief. Pre-humans did that too.

    As of right now, the Neanderthals were the first to bury their dead.

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    Then they obviously don't care much about the state of the body, since by then most humans will be earth and dust.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    It is miraculously restored.

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    In other words nothing to do with this topic.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    It is miraculously restored.
    Allegedly^

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