How much of Total War's continued success is down to mods?

[Pfundner]

How much are mods like this one responsible for making the total war series a success?
I only discovered this site when MTW2 came out so i played Rome vanilla and, admitedly, had a lot of fun for a long time. But i think i spent about 3 months playing vanilla MTW2 and since then its been mods all the way. I only bought kingdoms so i could play Stainless Steel! Im pretty sure without mods medieval would be on the shelf and i wouldnt be posting on this forum. Is it the same for you guys or would you still be playing Vanilla, if there were no mods?

[Principe Alessandro]

The same for me.

I think that core of Total War fans enjoy Total War for so long for the mods.

[Warmaster Tibs]

A huge amount of the succes on this game is based on mods, however only because the game itself is very well done and modable.

[Skeleton Of The West]

I chose the second option from the top, I dont think this game is successful because of the mods, they just add to him a flavor from the eye of the gamers.

[Mount Suribachi]

Not so much. I was quite happy playing vanilla M2, and especially Kingdoms till TATW came along.

I played a bit of RTRPE and Invasio Barbarorum for RTW/BI - the former was nice, the latter was I couldn't see what the fuss was about. But they were both just enhancing what was an already good base game. I didn't need them to enjoy vanilla (BI especially).

TATW otoh, is a total conversion, which is a different kettle of fish. Kingdoms is probly my favourite vanilla TW game, and TATW just blows it out of the water in terms of what I want to play.

I wonder what % of TW purchasers actually download and install a mod? Would be interesting to see the number of downloads of this and other popular mods vs sales figures of each TW game.

[jinjo]

people will continue to play of course but mods are very necessary
mods improve quality of TW

[Gothic Revenge]

Well, I believe that due to the contribution of the available Mod's TW Games have been given another edge.
Even though the old TW games (excluding ETW for now as it is not even playable!) are as much fun in their vanilla state,
I highly stress the fact that through all these mods the games have survived even longer and their play time has been considerably increased.... I for myslef have stopped MTW2 for sometime... as I was getting somewhat bored .... but always loved the concept of the game...... I eagerly awaitied ETW, but was disappointed due to being unfinished.... just by pure luck I came across TATW and now have become a MTW2 addict again....... so yes, the mods work!!!!!

[OfficerJohn]

As I only use one mod while playing... that's all I can get...

And I still play...

[lunch]

Oh my... Do 6 people think that TW wouldn`t exist without mods? That every one who plays TW just buys the game, downloads a mod, and then plays the mod? That if you removed the mods, no one would buy the game? Of course some only buys the game for mods, but most I think but it because TW is probably the best strategy game series. I have had hours with fun with all the TW games I have, also Empire (I have not experienced many of the bugs, and played my whole Prussia save without many problems).

[George Maniaces]

CA makes great cakes, but the mods are the most delicious part, the icing. TA:TW though is like a whole second cake on top of the first cake, with all the fixins.

[DeliCious.vP]

Medieval 2 Carried us long way say 100 meters Mods took us another 20 meters and continues to to drag us further. Mods are the reason i still play total war still. but i can say that even without it carried me long way.

Without Mods Success
with Mods Greater success. Thats it.

and i might add that the Poll u made non of the options is agreeable to me non of the poll options sounds reasonable.
What about a fifth Poll option?

Did the Mods enhance Medieval 2 Total war and carried it Further? Yes

[YassirX]

To be honest, there a a lot of people who actually only bought Medieval 2 + Kingdoms to play Third Age.
I have Empire and never touched it since I play Third Age.

Anything more I have to say?
CA makes fine Strategy games but the Community makes awesome strategy games, simple.

[lunch]

To be honest, there a a lot of people who actually only bought Medieval 2 + Kingdoms to play Third Age.
I have Empire and never touched it since I play Third Age.

Anything more I have to say?
CA makes fine Strategy games but the Community makes awesome strategy games, simple.

Sure, many people do, but not 100 % as 10 people seems to think. Many download mods, but many could play without them. I have played for years without mods, and so does many others. Mods are often awesome, and can change the gameplay to the better, but the games are awesome without them too.

CA makes excellent strategy games, and I think Empire as an awesome game. Some bugs, but still awesome. And where would the community be without CA? Please don`t think that modders are better than the guy (and girls) who make this game (no offence to modders, you do a great job, but you only change a game, not make a new one).

[YassirX]

Sure, many people do, but not 100 % as 10 people seems to think. Many download mods, but many could play without them. I have played for years without mods, and so does many others. Mods are often awesome, and can change the gameplay to the better, but the games are awesome without them too.

CA makes excellent strategy games, and I think Empire as an awesome game. Some bugs, but still awesome. And where would the community be without CA? Please don`t think that modders are better than the guy (and girls) who make this game (no offence to modders, you do a great job, but you only change a game, not make a new one).

Creative Assembly gave the Engine and the Community is making the Spirit / Atmopshere. Thats what a game makes itself awesome. Of course the CA-Vanilla Games are good but I stop playing them soon as the spirit is gone.

Never happend with this mod so far.

[Vifarc]

I bought Med2 but almost didn't played it. I bought Kingdoms when low priced, but never played it.
I just buy the Total Wars for what they did was a dream: Shogun was so great when released! (even now it still good).

That's only for Third Age that I play again a Total War game.

[Space Wolves]

Voted for 2nd option. Sure Total war would probably be more dead if it wasn't for you modders sweating and sacrificing time and effort just so we can yell at you some more for getting something wrong.

But yea, some people do, for some reasons, enjoy vanilla or don't care about mods and they find that more enjoyable so yea...

But defiantly, total war games would be quite dead but still have a substantial fan base none the less.

[lunch]

Creative Assembly gave the Engine and the Community is making the Spirit / Atmopshere. Thats what a game makes itself awesome. Of course the CA-Vanilla Games are good but I stop playing them soon as the spirit is gone.

Never happend with this mod so far.

Mods can make the gaming experience better, some times, but the original games are excellent. To say that the only reason TW still exsist is because of the mods is just stupidity. TW exists because its a magnificent stategygame series, and they probably have some extra fans because of some good mods, but most of the fans of the series (I think) is fans because they make great games. Maybe they have downloaded a mod that makes the games better, but the mods become great because the game is great.

[Theodotos I]

To tell the truth--I only played vanilla Med2 for a week before starting to download mods--and I've not played a vanilla game since.

[wupwup]

i bougt kingdoms especialy or this mod. and im glad i did. i got bored of it soon and stopped playing. then this mod came out and i started again. however i think the only thing that will make this game long lasting is a better ai. for me brilliant though this mod is it is held back by the origional game that cant be changed.

[YassirX]

i bougt kingdoms especialy or this mod. and im glad i did. i got bored of it soon and stopped playing. then this mod came out and i started again. however i think the only thing that will make this game long lasting is a better ai. for me brilliant though this mod is it is held back by the origional game that cant be changed.

The AI is fairly harcoded and actually only the parameters can be changed, the AI itself cannot be changed.