War of the Ring and Isengard

**Finarfin** · June 23, 2009, 03:24 AM

1. this is the best mod i have ever see but i think that the start date should be later, maybe 3010 or so. and there sould be a script that aragorn can be king of gondor. theoden should be king of rohan and denethor faction leader of gondor. u should have boromir and faramir as playing gondor.

2. isengard should have their own culture with furnaces as farms or so and orc pits that make population growing... and the generals should be all uruks and no lesser orcs

3. the existing ui cards are almost perfect, but its really

if there are some orc buildings and then some farms; farms in mordor ... or the goverment building, they should get other ui card.

that are the things i dont like at third age and thats not so much i think, its all possible and not to difficult like minas tirith as a battle model or so.

and im sorry for my english

**Muffer Nl** · June 23, 2009, 03:28 AM

They did not have enough time to make the all of the UI cards.

**YassirX** · June 23, 2009, 03:31 AM

1. There is a Gondorian-Kingship Mod in the Submod-Category try it out.
2. All six culture slots are currently given there is no space for a new one.
3. I think the UI will get an overhaul in further patches which focuse on Gameplay and Content.

- Custom Settlements are very difficult to handle, not long ago they were even impossible, so dont bother with them right now, it will take alot of time till they are released as the mod tool to customize battles and maps has been released not long ago!

- Before you ask, yes there will be Ents!

**Seleukos_I.** · June 23, 2009, 04:44 AM

and if Isengard would have a different culture they would not be able to take part in invasions

**axnsan** · June 23, 2009, 04:54 AM

culture seleukos, not religion, thanks

**lunch** · June 23, 2009, 05:02 AM

1. I disagree, later Denethor, Theoden and so will become kings, anyway. And I think there is a mod that does so that Aragorn become king of Gondor.

2. No, if they had a different culture they wouldn`t be able to join invasions, and all the culture slots are occupied.

3. I think that southern Mordor (don`t remember the namen, something on "N" I think) is quite fertile. How else could Sauron have fed his gigantic armies. "An army marches on it`s stomach" counts in ME too.

**Seleukos_I.** · June 23, 2009, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

culture seleukos, not religion, thanks

what do you want to tell me with this post?

**OfficerJohn** · June 23, 2009, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

culture seleukos, not religion, thanks

Culture = religion

**axnsan** · June 23, 2009, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by lunch

2. No, if they had a different culture they wouldn`t be able to join invasions, and all the culture slots are occupied.

no it won't (see below)

yes, all culture slots are occupied, except that there's the mesoaemircan culture which is not used for anything
and religion slots are not full. i added a new religion, and i don't know how many more can be added, but the point is they're not all ocupied

Originally Posted by lunch

3. I think that southern Mordor (don`t remember the namen, something on "N" I think) is quite fertile. How else could Sauron have fed his gigantic armies. "An army marches on it`s stomach" counts in ME too.

Nurn that would be

Originally Posted by jinjo

i think one culture for evils is good idea
why should it be changed?

they're not same culture (again see below)

Originally Posted by OfficerJohn

Culture = religion

you are only partially right.

Originally Posted by Seleukos_I.

what do you want to tell me with this post?

culture = building/interface style, portrait sets, building/event descriptions etc
cultures are Orc, Dwarves, Elves, Gondor, Men, Evil Men (eastern_european, southern_european, greek, gondor, northern_european, middle_eastern)

religion = the thing you need to recruit troops

- in the game it's also displayed as 'culture' which causes confusion, but the two things are separate.
religions are Elves, Dwarves, Followers of Melkor, Dunedain, Northmen, Others (orthodox, islam, catholic, numenorean, heretic)

so isengard could be made a separate culture without screwing the crusades (invasions)

**Finarfin** · June 23, 2009, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

no it won't (see below)

yes, all culture slots are occupied, except that there's the mesoaemircan culture which is not used for anything
and religion slots are not full. i added a new religion, and i don't know how many more can be added, but the point is they're not all ocupied

Nurn that would be

they're not same culture (again see below)

you are only partially right.

culture = building/interface style, portrait sets, building/event descriptions etc
cultures are Orc, Dwarves, Elves, Gondor, Men, Evil Men (eastern_european, southern_european, greek, gondor, northern_european, middle_eastern)

religion = the thing you need to recruit troops

- in the game it's also displayed as 'culture' which causes confusion, but the two things are separate.
religions are Elves, Dwarves, Followers of Melkor, Dunedain, Northmen, Others (orthodox, islam, catholic, numenorean, heretic)

so isengard could be made a separate culture without screwing the crusades (invasions)

thanks, so now all are knwoing about cultures and religions

. i knew that already...

the knignship submod looks really

but i have installed so many submod and i edited a lot myself that i wont install it. i ve installed also the intern beta version of the german translation...
maybe i ll make it myself with the pictures and ideas from the kingship submod...

and with the ui-cards: i knew already that the 2d-designer is working on it (see his submod). so tell me something new, or discuss about it

in my music submod i used the mesoamerican music type for rohan music, but now i knew thats is so easy to make a new music type like gondor. so there is a new type in my music-textfile called "isengard"

with OST...

**Kahvipannu** · June 23, 2009, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Finarfin

and with the ui-cards: i knew already that the 2d-designer is working on it (see his submod). so tell me something new, or discuss about it

Didn't catch that one..

I have to pay more attention what I read in the future.

**lunch** · June 23, 2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

no it won't (see below)

yes, all culture slots are occupied, except that there's the mesoaemircan culture which is not used for anything
and religion slots are not full. i added a new religion, and i don't know how many more can be added, but the point is they're not all ocupied

Nurn that would be

Oh, I thought they were all occupied. My bad.

Nurn it was! Thanks

**jinjo** · June 23, 2009, 05:25 AM

i think one culture for evils is good idea
why should it be changed?

**Kahvipannu** · June 23, 2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Finarfin

3. the existing ui cards are almost perfect, but its really

if there are some orc buildings and then some farms; farms in mordor ... or the goverment building, they should get other ui card.

There is sub-mod which fixes a lot of vanilla 2D-art, some building icons too:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=256326

**Finarfin** · June 23, 2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kahvipannu

There is sub-mod which fixes a lot of vanilla 2D-art, some building icons too:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=256326

thanks, but if u would read all here carefully again u ll know that got this submod already

**Muffer Nl** · June 24, 2009, 01:53 AM

Because they wanted as few scripts as possible and this is TW, it's random.

**YassirX** · June 24, 2009, 02:47 AM

Faramir and Boromir are part of the possible General names for Gondor so you got a small chance to get them.

**axnsan** · June 24, 2009, 03:05 AM

yes, but without the portraits. and i have like 3 boromirs in my campaign

**Warmaster Tibs** · June 24, 2009, 04:29 AM

Yeah just a minor tweak to have Bormir and Faramir wouldent kill anyone. Maybe a picture for Eromer wouldent be bad. Just a few minor tweaks to fit in some important characters.