Where did they go?

**~~DeliCious.vP~~** · June 22, 2009, 07:14 PM

You ever played as Dale Dwarfs eriador high elfs and noticed while your struggling or advancing on your end Gondor and Rohan always gets it hard.

Truth be told when Rohan and gondor is dead. i just stop the campaign is over. Sure i can bother Going into Mordor and reaching Far Harad its just that its gonna take forever and the fun will go out of it.

Is there anyway to make sure that Gondor and Rohan dosent get eaten up? and dont say Send 3 stacks cause thats just not an Option if you are Say dale dwarfs cuz you get pressured escp Dale by Rhun. and look say you Dale like i was its not like the dwarfs are gonna step up and join u and help you fight rhun. Cause if they dont have a city there they just dont give a fuc,k.

I just wanna be able to sweep in help the good guys and go to the next front. But it always ends up being a nuissance to clear whole gondor and rohan of Isengard and Mordor..

Tips submods. GO!

**Elendil232** · June 22, 2009, 07:23 PM

you can try building a larger army and sending it to said Allies and try to retake cities they happen to be to busy loseing to worry about (though i must say the results you have noted here are rare if un heard of in my campaign) my suggestion is lowering the difficulty, it always fix's this in my games, i know its supposed to be played on hard but medium is just as fun and know one dies off (at least not in mine)

**Hoppylyte** · June 22, 2009, 07:30 PM

1. Go to http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=257051
2. Download the sub-mod
3. Play as whoever you want
4.... Profit!

**HaveFallen** · June 23, 2009, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hoppylyte

1. Go to http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=257051
2. Download the sub-mod
3. Play as whoever you want
4.... Profit!

RR/RC has that and it doesn't seem to be working. Mordor is annihilating the Good factions.

**Skeleton Of The West** · June 23, 2009, 04:16 AM

Thats how the game is supposed to be like: Mordor is overpowered, Mordor beats Gondor and Isengard beats Rohan.

As far as I know, there are no submods which makes Mordor and Gondor balanced or Isengard and Rohan balanced, but there are some which delay the good forces' defeat like RC/RR, ZZZZ good vs evil.

If you are still not satisfied, you can try changing Gondor and Rohan's unit stats to make them more powerful, or maybe give them more money from the King's purse.

**MAMO72** · June 23, 2009, 04:24 AM

the best way I found to avoid the fall of the southern good factions is destroy Isengard as soon as possible, maybe during the first 30 turns, at least taking Nan-Curunir (despite the f.....g garrison script), Fangorn, Ost-in-Ghil and Byrig ) the three first settlements thay are used to conquer; Doing that you relieve the pressure on Rohan (but you have to help them in resisting against the invasion the Dark Lord usually call on Edoras), and after you can send one or two stacks to help Gondor (usually much more stronger then Roahn at the starting position.

**Skeleton Of The West** · June 23, 2009, 04:28 AM

Yes Gondor is holding much more time then Rohan.

In my recent campaign i am at turn 60, Rohan has been eliminated something like 20 turns ago, and Gondor still alive and holding their eastern regions.

**~~DeliCious.vP~~** · June 22, 2009, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Elendil232

you can try building a larger army and sending it to said Allies and try to retake cities they happen to be to busy loseing to worry about (though i must say the results you have noted here are rare if un heard of in my campaign) my suggestion is lowering the difficulty, it always fix's this in my games, i know its supposed to be played on hard but medium is just as fun and know one dies off (at least not in mine)

i think that when you say its rare and unheard of you must be mad. i have heard of dozens of people that gets this. The issue is never if Iam struggling im not. i Win on VH/VH any game its just that its not fun doing it all alone.

Besides i got a submod that seems to be very valuable.

**Vifarc** · June 23, 2009, 02:49 AM

Just give back Rohan and Gondor some settlements (what I do).
You even can give them one sanctuary settlement, farther West as possible (those ones invaded by Orcs or Isengard), were they will be difficult to reach for the Evil. Lorewise they could be a loan, for safety.
Enough said.