Ancillary Items = Crash

[The10thLegion]

Well i started making 7 legate ancillaries for The First Triumvirate mod and well 2 things usually go wrong even though i followed a guide carefully...

1. if i edit descr_strat to make a family member have the ancillary, it doesn't save with it
2. if i try the give_ancillary console command, it crashes as soon as i hit it

Im new at this so please explain it well.

Thank You,
The10thLegion

[Subrosa Florens]

The first may be if you are using Vista, as it prevents you from editing files within your Program Files folder. Turn off UAC and see if that changes anything.

The second sounds like a problem with the ancillary code. Can you post your code? Maybe the problem will stick out.

[The10thLegion]

Nope no Vista

Here is the code

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_tenth
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
Unique
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_tenth_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_tenth_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 3
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 6
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_seventh
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_secenth_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_seventh_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 2
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 5
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_eighth
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_eighth_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_eighth_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 2
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 3
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_fifth
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_fifth_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_fifth_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 2
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 2
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_first
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_first_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_first_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 3
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 5
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_second
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_second_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_second_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 1
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 4
;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_ninth
Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
Description legate_of_ninth_desc
EffectsDescription legate_of_ninth_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 45
Effect Command 1
Effect BattleSurgery 75
Effect TroopMorale 2
;------------------------------------------
;===============================================================
;== RTW ANCILLARY TRIGGERS START HERE ==========================
;===============================================================
;------------------------------------------

[Subrosa Florens]

First, it is best to add things like ancillaries, traits, units, etc... one at a time. That makes it a lot easier to figure out what is causing a bug. I suggest you remove them all, then add them in one by one, testing the game after every time to see which one is the problem.

In any case, I would take out the Unique line in the legate_of_tenth entry. You can make ancillaries unique by adding this line in the trigger:

          and not WorldwideAncillaryExists {ancillary_name}

I also see you have a typo in the legate_of_secenth_desc entry.

Are you receiving an error message when the game crashes? If you are not, are you using the -show_err command line switch?

[The10thLegion]

Alright i deleted all of them exept for legate_of_tenth and the same thing happened

i also do not receive errors because as soon as i add the ancillary in console command it ctds... plus when i enter -show_err it doesn't recognize the campaign

so in the trigger for legate of tenth i would put
and not WorldwideAncillaryExists legate_of_tenth

im a noob...

[Subrosa Florens]

What are you using for the description code in Data\Text\export_ancillaries.txt?

It looks like the Unique line in the code is not the problem. I see they are using it in the vanilla game too.

[The10thLegion]

i didn't have anything in there, although i could have sworn i put something in there...

[The10thLegion]

¬---------------
{legate_of_tenth} Legate of The Tenth Legion

{legate_of_tenth_desc}
He is the Leader of the Elite Tenth Legion

{legate_of_tenth_effects_desc}
+3 Command
+6 Troopmorale

¬---------------
Does this work?

[Subrosa Florens]

I was tinkering when you were posting. I got it working using this code:

export_descr_ancillaries.txt

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary legate_of_tenth
    Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
    Unique
    ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek
    Description legate_of_tenth_desc
    EffectsDescription legate_of_tenth_effects_desc
    Effect MovementPoints 45
    Effect Command 3
    Effect BattleSurgery 75
    Effect TroopMorale 6

export_ancillaries.txt

{legate_of_tenth}    Legate of 10th

{legate_of_tenth_desc}
Legate of 10th

{legate_of_tenth_effects_desc}
Legate of 10th

Not having the entry in export_ancillaries.txt was probably causing your crash. Is it working now?

[The10thLegion]

thank you thank you thank you!

Alright this is what i plan to do:
Copy the same thing for each of the legate ancillaries but change the number
change the image
edit descr_strat and put the ancillary in each charachter

Is that possible?

[Squid]

What you posted above is only part of the code required. Errorless CTD's with traits/ancillaries are 99.99% of the time caused by mistakes in export_VnVs.txt/export_ancillaries.txt files respectively. If you click the bottom link in my sig, you'll see a thread for a tool. It's a trait/ancillary validator run it against your changes.

[The10thLegion]

alright i will try this, thank you.

[The10thLegion]

Ok one more problem...

My ancillaries are getting switched. I gave Julius Caesar the 10th retinue and he lost it when i reloaded the campaign.
Then Publius Crassus had his 7th ancillary switched to a 6th ancillary...

then whenever i quit i get some message of something like
error in section () line ()
ancillary is unreadable

[Subrosa Florens]

I have seen this kind of thing before. The game cannot read one ancillary, and it gets all the following ones mixed up, thinking each is the one above it.

Make note of the line it says is having the problem, then use a text editor like Notepad++ (google it, it is a free download) to open the file. It will show you the line numbers, so you can go to that specific line to see what is wrong.

[Squid]

Ok one more problem...

My ancillaries are getting switched. I gave Julius Caesar the 10th retinue and he lost it when i reloaded the campaign.
Then Publius Crassus had his 7th ancillary switched to a 6th ancillary...

then whenever i quit i get some message of something like
error in section () line ()
ancillary is unreadable

Could you post a screen of the exact error and the code around the line it's complaining about? That way I can add into my traits/ancillaries guide.

[CaesarVincens]

Ok one more problem...

My ancillaries are getting switched. I gave Julius Caesar the 10th retinue and he lost it when i reloaded the campaign.
Then Publius Crassus had his 7th ancillary switched to a 6th ancillary...

then whenever i quit i get some message of something like
error in section () line ()
ancillary is unreadable

There is probably a problem with the entry, an extra or missing character somewhere.

[The10thLegion]

ok.
I will try this too.

Also i suppose that the 10th ancillary is the one causing problems...

it was like folder 40
line 5,400

also @ squid... for some reason fraps wont take a picture of it...

Edit # 2:
Did a test only adding the tenth ancillary...






It looked fine but the message came back when i quit out of the program. Fraps wont take a screenshot of it either

[The10thLegion]

would this be above or below the trigger line?

[CaesarVincens]

This would be at the ancillary entry.

[Squid]

Don't use fraps, before closing the error box press print screen then open paint (start Menu -> Programs -> Accessories -> Paint) then paste using the paste method of choice (i.e. Edit->Paste, Ctrl-V, Right-Click+Paste, etc) then save it to a jpg file.