Concepts and Theories

[GrnEyedDvl]

Since this class is sooo huge, and since scripting is so flexible, I am creating this thread to answer abstract questions not directly related to the current lesson. For lesson specific questions use the lesson thread. For other thoughts and ideas and "is this possible?" questions post here. Questions related to future lessons I will answer in general form without specific code examples, but things I havent thought of or havent included I will answer to the best of my ability, and some might get included in the upcoming lessons.

[Icedie El Guaraní]

@GED
this is your garrison script or at least part of it.
i need to understand the declare_counter and set_counter , to set a set_counter is it obligatory to add the declare_counter above the monitor_event, in this case for york, london, nottingham, caernarvon and is it York_siege a random name or a requirement like for an example X_siege been X any settlement?

I am a bit confuse with the condition, events and commands, i am not quite sure where to look for what i am planning to script, i would like to have that freedom of understanding an reading the script by simply watching at it.
Is there an order like :

command event condition
command and the parameters
command

And if so why is the declare_counter is set above the monitors, i mean being a command it make since but it doesn´t have an event it goes straight away to it parameters( York_siege)

;;;;;;;;;Pool England-Wales, London, York, Nottingham, Caernarvon;;;;;;;;;;
declare_counter York_siege
declare_counter London_siege
declare_counter Nottingham_siege
declare_counter Caernarvon_siege

;;;;;; London ;;;;;;;;;;
monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement not IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     set_counter London_siege 0
end_monitor
monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     and not FactionIsLocal
     and not FactionType slave
     and I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0
     and SettlementBuildingExists = wooden_pallisade
     create_unit London, Welsh Spearmen Mercs, num 2, exp 0, arm 0, wep 0
     set_counter London_siege 1
end_monitor

Lets say that in my campaign_script i only set this code

monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement not IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     set_counter London_siege 0

what will happen? for what i understand in the previous class this should be enough to tell the engine that this settlement in not under siege, but what happen if the value " 0 " was instead a value " 1 " ?

after that the this code :

monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     and not FactionIsLocal
     and not FactionType slave
     and I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0
     and SettlementBuildingExists = wooden_pallisade
     create_unit London, Welsh Spearmen Mercs, num 2, exp 0, arm 0, wep 0
     set_counter London_siege 1
end_monitor

tells the engine what will happen after the besiege settlement is true, or we want it to do for us. and i correct?
but again what does this " = 0 " means?

and I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0

because if it was a 1 would make more sense to me, than again right after that confuse me to hell this code appear:

set_counter London_siege 1

but this make more sense than the other ones, i totally confuse.. sorry if my explanation is not clear but i am trying my best with the Lil English i know.

[Icedie El Guaraní]

Damn!! i have just done that, i have posted a huge question in the lesson 1 , can you move it here. sorry for the inconvenient!

[Bucket of Lithium]

I tried to script something simple that would gift a set amount of money to a faction when one of their characters became married, like dowery. It failed however and I wasn't entirely sure why, probably the way I used the CharacterMarries event.

If i'd got that to work I would have set up a percentage part that would give certain amounts of money based on chance, representing more wealthy families marrying into the royals.

Just curious as to whether or not you'd think this would be possible.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Damn!! i have just done that, i have posted a huge question in the lesson 1 , can you move it here. sorry for the inconvenient!

Gimme a sec on that.

I tried to script something simple that would gift a set amount of money to a faction when one of their characters became married, like dowery. It failed however and I wasn't entirely sure why, probably the way I used the CharacterMarries event.

If i'd got that to work I would have set up a percentage part that would give certain amounts of money based on chance, representing more wealthy families marrying into the royals.

Just curious as to whether or not you'd think this would be possible.

It depends if you are trying to move money between factions or not. I dont think most of the marriage stuff exports Target, which is what you would need. You have to detect both sides of the marriage. The one you have to use is InterFactionMarriage.

[Bucket of Lithium]

I was originally trying it with just the random marriages for characters you get, but I'm going to go and mess around with it and see if I can make it work or if it's impossible. Cheers anyway.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Counters is the next lesson, but basically all I am doing there is using the counter to keep track of a condition. So every time there is a change in the game, there is a change in the counter value.

When the settlement is not under siege, the counter is 0. When the settlement is under siege, the counter is 1. After the army spawns then set the counter back to 0 so it doesnt create more than 1 army. That script is probably a bit much to figure out all in one reading, but we will definitely be using counters to keep track of things in the next lesson.

[GrnEyedDvl]

I was originally trying it with just the random marriages for characters you get, but I'm going to go and mess around with it and see if I can make it work or if it's impossible. Cheers anyway.

Its possible, but first you have to define exactly what you want to do.

Character gets married, what do you want to check, and who do you want to give the money to?

[Icedie El Guaraní]

Sorry i am confuse again, what do you say about this then:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     and not FactionIsLocal
     and not FactionType slave
     and I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0

Why is the I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0 ? when the settlement is under siege.

and SettlementBuildingExists = wooden_pallisade
     create_unit London, Welsh Spearmen Mercs, num 2, exp 0, arm 0, wep 0
     set_counter London_siege 1
end_monitor

It would be simple to understand if the code was just the one above.

Maybe this isn´t enough for me to understand scriptting.
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier: I_CompareCounter
Trigger requirements:
Parameters: script counter, value
Sample use: I_CompareCounter blib < 17
Description: Compare a script counter to a value
Battle or Strat: Either
Class: COMPARE_COUNTER
Implemented: Yes
Author: Guy

[GrnEyedDvl]

Working from memory here but I may have to go open that script.

Sorry i am confuse again, what do you say about this then:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEndInSettlement IsUnderSiege IsGovernor
     and SettlementName London
     and not FactionIsLocal
     and not FactionType slave
     and I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0

Why is the I_CompareCounter London_siege = 0 ? when the settlement is under siege.

If the settlement is under siege, and the counter is currently 0, then we havent performed any commands yet. If the counter is NOT 0 then we already spawned armies.

and SettlementBuildingExists = wooden_pallisade
     create_unit London, Welsh Spearmen Mercs, num 2, exp 0, arm 0, wep 0
     set_counter London_siege 1
end_monitor

It would be simple to understand if the code was just the one above.

After we create the army, set the counter to 1 so that we know we already created an army and the same army doesnt get created again next turn.


You WILL be able to get this, you just jhappened to pick a huge script to try and figure out. The next lesson is in smaller steps.


EDIT: Maybe this will help. 1 = true and 0 = false

[Killerbee]

I assume counters also need to be "checked" ? By using 'CompareCounter' i assume ?

[WikkeD]

What can we still do with this data except that with the money?

[Killerbee]

What do you mean by data ?

[WikkeD]

I mean the campaing_script. I've think with this text file you can do other things too.

[GrnEyedDvl]

You can do all kinds of stuff. Look through things posted by me, or Alpaca, or many other scripters out there for ideas, and we will be doing different kinds of things in the next lessons.

I posted links to all of my work in a single thread, Alpaca has his Script O Rama, and there are lots of other ideas in the mod workshop.

[WikkeD]

Looks really intresting. Maybe i do some of the script and post it here just for fun xD

[Killerbee]

Also , read some RTW tutorials (i recommend HouseofHam's) The scripts in RTW are practically the same as in M2TW

I have some questions : Is it possible in M2TW to script movies ? I know a way-around in RTW , but i don't know 1 for M2TW ..
Also : I have installed Barebones folder , as i had some probs creating my own modfolder . it has a campaign_script though .. Should i delete all that is inside it ?

[Stephan]

is it possible to have an port blocked event, that if a specific port is plocked the faction looses money

edit: how can i add a message after an event,like the "king is dead" event in ss?

[Killerbee]

is it possible to have an port blocked event, that if a specific port is plocked the faction looses money

edit: how can i add a message after an event,like the "king is dead" event in ss?

Would be same like garisson script afaik :

You must use the CharacterTypeNearTile condition , in script this would look like this (watch out ! This is for RTW !) :

if I_CharacterTypeNearTile 'faction' admiral 1 , x, z

console_command add_money 'faction' -1000

end_if

Some notes :

the bold 'admiral' defines wich type is near wich tile .. Because it's a ship that blockades a port , it should be admiral , cause only admirals command ships

The bold 'faction' tells the engine wich faction controls the ships that are close to your port .. if you , for instance , write in your script :

if I_CharacterTypeNearTile hre ...blah blah...

and there would be a French ship near your port , then the script will not trigger .

the bold+underlined 1 tells the engine how many 'tiles' the admiral is allowed to be away from the given coörds , wich should be the coörds of your port .

, x, z : Needs to be the exact coörds of your port

faction : defines wich faction looses money .. Should be he faction that controls the port ..


Note that this solution isn't "waterproof" : If there's an admiral who doesn't want to blockade your port is 1 tile away from your port , the script will still trigger ..

Here's some info 'bout the condition from docudemons :

Identifier: I_CharacterTypeNearTile
Trigger requirements:
Parameters: faction, character type, distance in squares, x, z
Sample use: I_CharacterTypeNearTile romans_julii named_character, 10 48,30
Description: Is a particular character type of a faction near a particular tile?

edit: how can i add a message after an event,like the "king is dead" event in ss?

I'm sure we'll see this in later lessons : events and messages

[Stephan]

does that mean i have to write a new script for every enemy faction?