Is there a way to improve relationship attacking Evil factions?

**pnbjunior** · June 21, 2009, 01:46 AM

I want know if there is a way to improve the relationship between all Good factions and me when I attack and exterminate Evil factions.

Does anybody know??

**Radar** · June 21, 2009, 01:52 AM

If let's say the Turks are already at war with the Byzantine Empire, you can improve your relations with the Turks by sending a diplomat to them and offering to attack the Byzantine Empire as a gift.

That's one diplomatic way of improving relations through waging battles, that I know of.

Also, crushing the foes of your allies can help your relations with them too.

**Skeleton Of The West** · June 21, 2009, 04:16 AM

You can try be evil mod in the sub mod forum here. He changed this things so relations will be better.

**Warmaster Tibs** · June 21, 2009, 04:22 AM

Besides giving them money I realy dont know.

**XiombargDei** · June 21, 2009, 04:44 AM

I tried to rewrite a bit of code in descr_faction_standing, this is just to TEST the effect. When you execute prisoners (orcs if you play elves for example), your reputation should increase with the free people, while baddies should hate you more. Maybe a real codder should enlighten us

Code:

Trigger 0100b_prisoners_executed_decrease_global
    WhenToTest FactionLeaderPrisonersRansomedCaptor

    Condition RansomType execute

    FactionStanding global 0.01
    FactionStanding target_faction normalise -1.0 80
    FactionStanding target_allies normalise -1.0 160
    FactionStanding own_religion 1.0 
    FactionStanding target_religion -1.0 
    FactionStanding religion northmen 1.0

**Skeleton Of The West** · June 21, 2009, 07:41 AM

As I said here before, papio made a sub mod that corrects it. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=266095 You should try it.

**pnbjunior** · June 21, 2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Skeleton Of The West

As I said here before, papio made a sub mod that corrects it. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=266095 You should try it.

I'll test this sub mod.

**Olifantenstaart** · June 21, 2009, 08:02 AM

The diplomatic system still sucks in M2:TW...

Whatever I do, my reputation is always despicable... I don't betray anyone, I don't enter their territories without military access, I don't switch alliances every turn, etc.

Often a message saying "relations with faction X worsened" appears. But I haven't done anything wrong!

Does anyone know a solution to this?

**Tintin2** · June 21, 2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Olifantenstaart

The diplomatic system still sucks in M2:TW...

Whatever I do, my reputation is always despicable... I don't betray anyone, I don't enter their territories without military access, I don't switch alliances every turn, etc.

Often a message saying "relations with faction X worsened" appears. But I haven't done anything wrong!

Does anyone know a solution to this?

If you execute your prisoners every time, your reputation will go down.
Same for sacking and exterminating settlements.

**abbews** · June 21, 2009, 12:37 PM

ZZZZ Good vs Evil

**Gothic Revenge** · June 23, 2009, 05:56 AM

Attacking an evil faction, whcih is at war with your allies, will improve overall your relationship with that ally in the long run.... improving in the short term you will have to offer your "attack" as a gift...... this also goes the otherway...... if you are allied with a freindly faction, but you are not at war with their foe, your relationship will not improve... and if you are also trading with their foe this will result in a small decline of your overall relationship