Help me ( need tips)

[Thierry007]

Could someone give me tips to get an Economy starting i managed only at 1.4 with Razor's Trainer =/ ( adds gold arround 5000) the only Faction i can play "decent" with is Russia i cant even play my fav factions (I the Dutch =P for teh Motherland!) i know raods are essential but if i get past turn 3 or something im like utterly bankrupt

[Azonalanthious]

The dutch can be very easy to make money with. Important key to money in this game is trade, and the trade regions can make you a mint. Build merchantmen at every chance, ahead of everything but maintaining your army - the cheaper ones usually, as the more expensive, while significantly more combat capable, don't offer an income advantage and cost more to maintain. Last game I ran as the dutch, I managed to snag exclusive control of 17 of the 20 trade points. Build each of those fleets up to their 20 ship max size and you'll have 34,000+ coming in from them alone. Mind you, much of that will be going to support all those trade ships, but you'll still make a substantial profit and having 340 extra ships in your navy isn't a bad thing.

[spartan dude]

these are just general tips
first of all when you start the game dont focus on the army, spend your first few turns completely on your economy, farms ports roads, dont go staright for a huge amy, if you are paranoid about any sort of impending attack then use your starting armies to garrison cities
and straights away open the diplomacy and try to get trade agreements with as many countries as possible

[TheFirstONeill]

Moved to Gameplay and Strategy

[Bylandt]

Could someone give me tips to get an Economy starting i managed only at 1.4 with Razor's Trainer =/ ( adds gold arround 5000) the only Faction i can play "decent" with is Russia i cant even play my fav factions (I the Dutch =P for teh Motherland!) i know raods are essential but if i get past turn 3 or something im like utterly bankrupt

What's your language, Thierry? Your name sounds French. Or are you Dutch, as you seem to prefer playing the UP? I want to help you, but I don't understand half of what you are saying.

[Thierry007]

Im dutch 100% dutch and yeah i know my typing sucks ( keys sometimes wont resond or i accidentaly hit one too early or too late + im not well know with using things like , and . i hope you guys understand this ) Heh Trading fleets sounds good but what about the pirates?
In turn 2 one of my trading routes is being robbed by Very strong pirates (and dont forget france and spain ) and i wont build an army first =P ( as i Usualy do)

[Bylandt]

You need to destroy the pirates as soon as possible. You don't do this by engaging their fleets, but by taking their two islands. Build a few troops in Curacao or Dutch Guyana. And ship half of your troops from Holland to the America's. You don't need a big army.

Don't forget to spread out your trading fleet in the East Indies over several trade nodes.

Veel plezier verder. In het begin lijkt het een beetje moeilijk en ingewikkeld, maar je zult snel leren. Handel is dé manier om rijk te worden. Bouw zoveel mogelijk Indiamen en stuur ze naar de handelszones en je wordt snel rijk. Maar vergeet de verdediging van Holland niet. Westfalen en Hanover zijn zeer aggressief. Je kunt er best protectoraten van maken, is mijn mening.

[Thierry007]

Heh Thanks ( Bylandt ik ist Niet dat je nederlands was Joh =P ) Currnetly im playing as Russia im doing good so far building roads and mansions ( in settlements) and upgrading and Building trappers and farms for More income i can Only trade with Sweden and Poland for now Now another question in wich direction should i expand for sea trade? the cumanian khanate or something or Sweden ( ill need to move to both sides though but wich one should Have my full attention first? and what research to commit first? military industrial or the one after industrial? ( i also kicked my treasury minister for one with 5 stars firts one had 3 stars)

[Bylandt]

To trade effectively, you need commercial ports. Unfortunately, Russia has none to start with. You can get one by conquering the Crimean Khanate. Another interesting port is the north, in Ingria (St-Petersburg), but that means war with the Swedes. As you will soon be attacked by Georgia and Daghestan, this may have to wait.

Face it, Russia is not a nation with good trading opportunities. You may get a decent income after a while, but you'll never be filthy rich.

And no, I'm not Dutch. I'm Flemish, which is the next best thing.

[Thierry007]

Ahh okay ( Heh Flemish =P a neighbour! ) Ill attack the Crimean Khanate then i have 2 armies ready ( both standard sized with each 1 unit of artilelry) ill focus on getting Georgia and Daghestan as Protecorates or destroy them for the terrirois ( mision goal) then kill of the Swedes then my goal is to get Poland and Lithau something.. Income is arround 3000 per turn i think it could be butter but i dont need to be filthy rich =P i just want to awake the sleeping Giant =P

[british_general]

I'll just bunch up whatever I have of military and spend time on techs and trade parters and then when I have 10k, I start on the army

[British-Bulldog]

I normally wait 10 years in game time building up my economy and researching basic techs, I do this whatever faction I'm playing. I find it quiet effective as by the end of it, I have some great military techs and I am normally starting on my economic techs and I have a strong army, a navy, regions that are fully upgraded where possible, and normally by that time a good, strong standing government as well. Might seem like a waste of time but by the time those 10 years are up, your really ready for what the world will throw at you ; hope this helps some people