Representig militias and regional units

[FREDREX]

A good example to represent the population of a country is put militias and regional units as mercenaries, even unit already present in a city, for example france,only france can recruit "peasant militia", this is useful when a city is under siege, the general recruit peasants in towns of the region to increase his force.

[Copperknickers II]

An interesting idea but:

1. That would take up mercenary slots

2. Under the feudal system regional militias were not payed for service in the same way mercanaries are, so it would be unrealistic.

[ilias26]

Then you can have the militia units be free of charge but in limited numbers for obvious reasons

[Achilla]

Unit upkeep doesn't consist only of salary being (or not), but 90% are supplies - repairing broken equipment for more expensive units, replacing wounded/lame/dead horse for cavalry (feeding and taking care of them as well), food for soldiers (a saying 'soldiers march on their stomach' comes to mind) as well as other things. While I understand such levied units maybe weren't really mercenaries, it all comes down to upkeep value. 'Mercenary' peasant with upkeep of 60 is hardly a mercenary compared to mercenary crossbowmen with upkeep of 350. Just both of the units drain away kingdom's supplies in order to field them efficient in battle.

[RottenTree]

Oooh I would really like this but only for peasants and regional units militia units should remain in the cities.


@Copperknickers

I'm no history expert but aren't feudal units required to serve in the army as 'payment' for their land so I doubt they would get money for doing their duty but they still have upkeep in the game.

[Alkidas]

Oooh I would really like this but only for peasants and regional units militia units should remain in the cities.


@Copperknickers

I'm no history expert but aren't feudal units required to serve in the army as 'payment' for their land so I doubt they would get money for doing their duty but they still have upkeep in the game.

There was a lot of variation, but during the later Middle Ages paid service was quite common in fact, although the sums received weren't high. Lost horses were too often compensated for. Of course payments became more significant with money-fiefs.

[Sutman]

It depends, i read about a medieval database once in which the records of the hundred years war are accesible including pay but the time period isn't exactly the starting date http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8160081.stm, anyway at least in most free cities the militia was made up of citizens who received no pay but were not subject to the feudal oath but free citizens, and the feudal system required each knight to give the king 40 days a year for military service, and the peasants had to do exactly the same for their feudal lord. A garrison script for militia might accurately represent the gathering of the city defenders,allowing certain types of militia to be available only when besieged however the disbandment of the army afterwards would be the problem, thats why the free upkeep slots is the best solution to the problem, having them always there to represent the people always living there ready to defend the city, it could maybe be possible to restrict movement points for militia units so that they can't leave the cities themselves allowing the Ai to build as many as he wants to represent the cities defenders, but that might lead to army spamming next to the cities

[Copperknickers II]

I'm not expert either, no idea mate .

[sumskilz]

I'm no history expert but aren't feudal units required to serve in the army as 'payment' for their land

Basically yeah, but it got all complicated with vassels owing fealty to multiple lords and vassels becoming more powerful (or at least close to equal with their lords) meaning they may have expected extra gifts and favors in order to do their duty.