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    Default Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    I do understand the lore that Mordor in general were strong and trolls are walking Abrams, but seeing Olog-hai completely butchering a Mumakil doesn't make sense.

    Not to mention to obscene cost difference (1500 vs 5200), the trolls take zero losses while hammering down the poor oliphaunts.

    Considering that they both fulfill similar roles in battle (frontline crash&thrash), I find it difficult to understand why trolls that are about 1/3rd the price can be more effective and pretty much better at everything else than the mumakil.

    However, I don't believe mumakils are underpowered. Not sure how numbers in EDU should be like, but I think it's appearant that for their price trolls are extremely overperforming their expected standards.

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    Although the trolls took 2 casualties in my test, you're right.

    But this isn't the first time trolls are said to be overpowered..

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    the mumakil are far more devasting when it comes to trashing enemy lines:

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    That is true, Anx... but it really pains me that they drop after one volley of spears... I just sit there thinking "don't throw yet! don't throw yet!" while they're charging at a group of Pelargir Marines .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kassandros View Post
    That is true, Anx... but it really pains me that they drop after one volley of spears... I just sit there thinking "don't throw yet! don't throw yet!" while they're charging at a group of Pelargir Marines .
    In the Movie's one Spearman was enough to take down one mumakil, remember Eomér at the Pelenor Fields

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    Lol that would be funny to see... a ton of little elves clamoring all over a Mumak and shooting him in the head.

    Ahhh movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kassandros View Post
    Lol that would be funny to see... a ton of little elves clamoring all over a Mumak and shooting him in the head.

    Ahhh movies!
    Ooops youre right, I forgot Legolas

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    Quote Originally Posted by YassirX View Post
    In the Movie's one Spearman was enough to take down one mumakil, remember Eomér at the Pelenor Fields
    That's two, two mumakil!

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    yes, the one eomer killed with his spear brought another one down

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    What about Eowyn? She goes chop chop on one mumakils legs and it falls to the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souka View Post
    What about Eowyn? She goes chop chop on one mumakils legs and it falls to the ground
    lol yeah that was ..... odd :S I watched the appendices for ROTK a few days ago and they talk about trying to find ways of bringing down a mumak as being a pain in the ass

    But yeah on topic, te mumaks should whoop the trolls if only because of the size diffrence and the fact that you have to be clever to take down a mumak. Trolls are far too overpowered IMO and their defensive skill should be seriously gimped seen as well they arnt the most skillfull creatures are they?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvedui View Post
    lol yeah that was ..... odd :S I watched the appendices for ROTK a few days ago and they talk about trying to find ways of bringing down a mumak as being a pain in the ass

    But yeah on topic, te mumaks should whoop the trolls if only because of the size diffrence and the fact that you have to be clever to take down a mumak. Trolls are far too overpowered IMO and their defensive skill should be seriously gimped seen as well they arnt the most skillfull creatures are they?
    what do you want her to do? throw a spear into its leg with a rope attached then circle it three times before releasing the rope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary0044187 View Post
    what do you want her to do? throw a spear into its leg with a rope attached then circle it three times before releasing the rope?

    ... Omg that was the most amazing reference ever! I can't believe I didn't see it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary0044187 View Post
    what do you want her to do? throw a spear into its leg with a rope attached then circle it three times before releasing the rope?
    I think they should in any case re-skin the mumakil to look more like AT-AT, probably even add a pair of laser cannons to their head...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikka View Post
    I think they should in any case re-skin the mumakil to look more like AT-AT, probably even add a pair of laser cannons to their head...
    then we should give the Loke Flag Rim lightsabers as well

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    Mumaks one on one suck, but I find them able to utterly destroy enemy armies for my infantry to rush and pick the bones. However if the enemy has any javelins is by-by mumakils.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs View Post
    However if the enemy has any javelins is by-by mumakils.
    OR ballista's OR catapults OR trebuchets. There's actually a damn lot to counter the almighty Műmakil.
    Well, the 'should be-almighty Műmakil', since they're kinda weak.
    Gameplay > tiny little things

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    Quote Originally Posted by gary0044187 View Post
    what do you want her to do? throw a spear into its leg with a rope attached then circle it three times before releasing the rope?
    just one more pass...









    Mumakils should own trolls in a sense that the elephants would be charging them, they're a lot huger, with big pointy tusks, trolls should be able to kill them in prolonged melee just like any other unit and probably be better at it then other units, but they should get owned by the charge.

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    The real overpowered units are neither Olog-hai, or Mumakils. Instead it's the Berserkers of Isengard. They cost 900 and can take down a unit of Olag-hai in a one vs one. Staggering, isn't it?

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    Default Re: Olog-hai pulverizing Mumakils.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppylyte View Post
    The real overpowered units are neither Olog-hai, or Mumakils. Instead it's the Berserkers of Isengard. They cost 900 and can take down a unit of Olag-hai in a one vs one. Staggering, isn't it?
    You can kill Berserkers with arrows or melee. Try the same with olog hai...
    Playing as Rohan I never have problems against Isenhart Berserkers.. It's the Olog Hai that makes me ragequit the game and start a new campaign later...

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