campaign_difficulty_handicap_effects doesn't seem to work?

[Lonck]

in patch.pack I did this

2    True    recruitment_points    5

but I still had to recruit one troop every turn. Whats the deal?

[alpaca]

There's no difficulty level "2", they go from 1 to -2 for the player (corresponding to -1 to 2 for the AI)

Edit: 1 is easy, -2 is very hard in case you're wondering. I guess you already figured out that True in the second column means you're modifying the player bonuses while False means you're working on the AI bonuses

[Lonck]

eh I didn't notice the -2 for some reason. I thought it went from -1 (E) to 2 (VH) so I kept modding 2s only. A mistake that I keep making when testing. Still a lil confusing. PFM's 'unknown' columns don't help.

[Dogmeat]

Thanx Alpaca i was guessing this but your post save us all alot of time.

i was thinking 2 might be for RTI, tutorials etc,that or a test setting.

[Dogmeat]

As Alpaca mentions True is for player False is for AI. but the -2 as very hard is proving wierd some of my changes dont stick

EDIT: i balls up, above is how it now looks to me since 1.3.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

hmm well all you have to do is put the value to 0 to fix it.

[alpaca]

As Alpaca mentions True is for player False is for AI. but the -2 as very hard is proving wierd some of my changes dont stick

EDIT: i balls up, above is how it now looks to me since 1.3.

Who were you doing the changes for? If it's for the player, you need to use True and -2, if it's for the AI you need to use False and 2. This is what it was like for me since I tried it the first time.

[Dogmeat]

yep i found the problem i was using an unacceptable effects mod variable. When it didnt trigger it made me think i had the difficulty levels all wrong.

The effects trigger i wanted was mod_happiness_industrial but there isnt any mod industrial effect
happy_mod_religious_unrest is there as are all the lines to mod recruitment and such but no mod industrial happiness effect as far as i can find. Only the abilty to add a plus or minus value, not a mod multiplier that the mod line gives.

So the question now for me is can you create new effects lines in the effects_tables, create a mod happiness industrial line and then use it in the campaign difficulty settings?

EDIT:2nd question am I right in thinking that these campaign effects changes are only set when you start a campaign? Changing them mid campaign dosn't seem to register for me.

[alpaca]

It's possible to add new effects I think but they won't do anything in the game and be purely visual.

No idea whether they change an already started campaign or not.

[Dogmeat]

Sorry when i said effects i mean new Campaign variables to add to the Campaign difficulty settings, rather than graphics effects. My bad post wasn't that clear.

I wanted to make a mod multiplier industrial happiness line, something like mod_industrial_happiness_all, not sure if its possible.

There are similar for religious unrest, clamour etc but not for industrial unrest, so i wondered if you can create new ones. All the different lines used at moment are listed in the db/effects table/effects.

[alpaca]

I understood what you meant, I meant that the effects would show up on the building details for example and I think you can give them an icon and a custom text but they won't do anything in the game.

[Dogmeat]

gotch ya alpaca thanks.

strange that industrialization dosn't have a mod function, whe all the other unhappiness factors do. Also for me predicted industrialisation is always show incorrectly in the happiness column.

I suppose il have to wait till CA uses a trait that multiplies industrial unhappiness and copy the string then.

[GnaReffotsirk]

Guys, I'm confused:

So the corresponding integers for each difficulty level is:

Easy (-1)
Normal (0)
Hard (1)
Very Hard (2)
Legendary (3)

What about the negative values?