Istari

[DeliCious.vP]

could someone eleborate more on who the istari was where they came from and whats up with grey white brown ?

[lunch]

Here you will most likely find everything you want to know about Istari (Wizards)

[DeliCious.vP]

Not very helpful and it be nice if someone could write it here for others to see. then at least we will have a istari information topic to search on. so please write what you know.

[lunch]

Not very helpful and it be nice if someone could write it here for others to see. then at least we will have a istari information topic to search on. so please write what you know.

Not very helpful? What do you mean? You did click on to the Wisard article, right? Because the real information is in the Wizard-article

[Aikanár]

Sorry, no time due to other obligations , but might someone of my fellow Tolkienists step into the breach?

[Æsir]

could someone eleborate more on who the istari was where they came from and whats up with grey white brown ?

The wizards, also called Istari, were originally spirits of the order of the Maiar, maiar were spirits of the same order of the Valar but lesser in power (Sauron himself was one of the most powerful of the Maiar). These particular spirits were sent by the Valar to help and assist the peoples of Middle-earth against Sauron. The five known Istari were Curumo, a Maia of Aule, Olorin, a Maia of Manwe and Varda, Aiwendil a Maia of Yavanna, and Alatar and Pallando, both Maiar of Orome. Alatar and Pallando, also known as Ithryn Luin the "Blue Wizards," went into the East and do not come into the main tales of Middle-earth. In the northwest of Middle-earth Curumo became known as Saruman to Men and Curunir to Elves, Olorin was known as [Gandalf]] to Men and Mithrandir to Elves, while Aiwendil became known as Radagast.

It is not known if the colour had a special meaning concerning their rank, abilities or nature.

[Soul Firez]

damni always thought the colours where a division of them white the most powerfull grey the wisest of istari etc etc but i could be wrong been a while since read simirilion

[Razor]

could someone eleborate more on who the istari was where they came from and whats up with grey white brown ?

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[DeliCious.vP]

Thanks AESIR + rep but what about the other 2 ? one died fighting sauron right and the other one got corrupted ? can you eleborate on that please. or anyone.

[Vifarc]

but what about the other 2 ? one died fighting sauron right and the other one got corrupted ? can you eleborate on that please. or anyone.

You must ask Tolkien for it to continue the stories. Maybe you wanted us to write any for you? You may do it yourself.

[DeliCious.vP]

Alatar was corrupted and a minion of sauron hes the spirtual leader of rhun and the one who started the Loke khan or rhan. Radagast still lives near mirkwood ? i thought i heard. i know that if your the king of Dale you get radagast the brown as ure companion.

[lunch]

No one knows what happened to Alatar and Pallando, as for Radagast; it`s not sure. He might have traveled back to Valinor (unlikely he was allowed to do that), he might have wandered around i ME, or he stayed in Mirkwood until he faded away and became a part of the forest.

[Hellenikon]

It is hinted that all the Istari failed on their mission, except Gandalf, so is very likely that only he returned to Valinor.

[lunch]

But Tolkien stated that without the Blue Wizards (Alatar and Pallando) the victory for the good probably wouldn`t be possible. So they might have succeded with their missions.

[Skeleton Of The West]

But Tolkien stated that without the Blue Wizards (Alatar and Pallando) the victory for the good probably wouldn`t be possible. So they might have succeded with their missions.

Do you know what they did? I always thought they became corrupt and joined evil men.

[OfficerJohn]

It is hinted that all the Istari failed on their mission, except Gandalf, so is very likely that only he returned to Valinor.

Radagast failed because he fell in love with the nature, trees and animals, too much, and just didn't do so much...
Though they were his mission, he kind of overdid it...

[lunch]

Alatar was corrupted and a minion of sauron hes the spirtual leader of rhun and the one who started the Loke khan or rhan. Radagast still lives near mirkwood ? i thought i heard. i know that if your the king of Dale you get radagast the brown as ure companion.

No, it`s not certain that Alatar and Palladan were corrupted. Tolkien said that either they were corrupted, or they help so much that the victory of good wouldn`t be possible without them.

Do you know what they did? I always thought they became corrupt and joined evil men.

No, not even Tolkien knows what they did, or if they did it. He was very unsure wheter or not they failed.


I feel as if I have repeted myself a hundred times, for some reason...

[DeliCious.vP]

Lunch ure wrong i know that alatar got corrupted. it say that for a fact cant be sure where.

[lunch]

Not according to tolkienwaygates article on Alatar

I quote:

Tolkien mentioned in his letters that he did not know what happened to them, and that the evil power in the east was likely too great, and they probably succumbed like Saruman and founded evil cults. It is also likely that they perished in the east, or they had a permanent task to complete. This supposition was, however, contradicted in a later writing, stating that they probably had a great influence for the better on the War of the Ring, and without them the West might not have won.

[Kassandros]

Maybe they put sleep-juice in all of Rhun's horses water?