Christianism and all the other religions are full of absurdities

[Tspk91]

Ultimately, in reference to origins, there are only two choices. First, all came from something or someone capable of creating among everything else. Some conveniently call that someone God. Second, all came from nothing caused by nothing. The first one is completely absurd. Essentially, the argument of the theist is: "God does exist; he created everything.", but he is part of infinity; if he created the universe, he is not the whole universe, so he is part of it. Otherwise, he couldnt have created nothing, because everything would be him! How can a part create the whole? I tell you how: in no way can a part create the whole, it is an entirely illogical and absurd idea.

Theism does not need to be disproved, it is logically absurd for a finite mind to believe in the existence of an infinite mind. How can you believe in an infinite mind, when to be true the whole universe would be that mind, and then it couldnt have created anything? I ask those especially with dogmatic theistic principles. Is infinity a part of both science and math? If infinity does exist, how do you define a finite universe with a prophetized ending? Where does it end? Do you bump into some sort of four satanic riders? That is completely absurd too.

Theists may point out the contradictions in the theory of the movement of gut gas in a tetraedrical nanocarbon tube bottle in the rings of saturn as evidence that science is not true, offering the only other option is false (nevertheless it also contradicts infinity, as there is always at least a third option); they may also claim that since "nobody can disprove God exists, it does exist indeed" (which is a circular argumentation), they will never find the answer question to infinity and the first cause, AKA a natural proccess that follows the laws of science, because they dont want to look for it. An open mind is needed to accept the completeness of reality.

[motiv-8]

Ultimately, in reference to origins, there are only two choices.

Tip of the day: Creating a false dilemma does not an argument make.

[Playfishpaste]

Tip of the day: Creating a false dilemma does not an argument make.

Word to big bird.

But I think he was just parodying the other thread.

[motiv-8]

Word to big bird.

But I think he was just parodying the other thread.

Ah, now that I see the poll it makes sense.

[Tspk91]

Actually I think religion is absurd, but of course this is a parody.

[Arch-hereticK]

I believe that all beliefs are full of absurdities.
NO EXCEPTIONS.

[black-dragon]

I believe that all beliefs are full of absurdities.
NO EXCEPTIONS.

Yeah, like how I believe that I need to eat food to survive...

[mrcrusty]

I believe that all beliefs are full of absurdities.
NO EXCEPTIONS.

Yeah, like how I believe that I need to eat food to survive...

Swing and a miss.

Arch was being sarcastic, not serious, so there's no need to take it as such.

[black-dragon]

Swing and a miss.

Arch was being sarcastic, not serious.

Ah, well I'm sure a Christian would have come along and said the same thing more eloquently anyhow.

[Arch-hereticK]

Yeah, like how I believe that I need to eat food to survive...

I believe you're wrong.

[HansDuet]

CITIZEN KANE

[Don in the North]

i too beleive that all organized religions are absurd.
ive no quarrel with faith because there is essentially nothing that can be done about it, and it alone causes not many problems, but organized religion absolutely devastates the human minds capacity to make choices on an individual level. its a form of slavery, entrapping its victims in a web of irrational fear that is as infectuous as a sexually verbally transmitted disease

[Imperator Romani]

its a form of slavery

[cfmonkey]

Ultimately, in reference to origins, there are only two choices. First, all came from something or someone capable of creating among everything else. Some conveniently call that someone God. Second, all came from nothing caused by nothing. The first one is completely absurd. Essentially, the argument of the theist is: "God does exist; he created everything.", but he is part of infinity; if he created the universe, he is not the whole universe, so he is part of it. Otherwise, he couldnt have created nothing, because everything would be him! How can a part create the whole? I tell you how: in no way can a part create the whole, it is an entirely illogical and absurd idea.

Theism does not need to be disproved, it is logically absurd for a finite mind to believe in the existence of an infinite mind. How can you believe in an infinite mind, when to be true the whole universe would be that mind, and then it couldnt have created anything? I ask those especially with dogmatic theistic principles. Is infinity a part of both science and math? If infinity does exist, how do you define a finite universe with a prophetized ending? Where does it end? Do you bump into some sort of four satanic riders? That is completely absurd too.

Theists may point out the contradictions in the theory of the movement of gut gas in a tetraedrical nanocarbon tube bottle in the rings of saturn as evidence that science is not true, offering the only other option is false (nevertheless it also contradicts infinity, as there is always at least a third option); they may also claim that since "nobody can disprove God exists, it does exist indeed" (which is a circular argumentation), they will never find the answer question to infinity and the first cause, AKA a natural proccess that follows the laws of science, because they dont want to look for it. An open mind is needed to accept the completeness of reality.

You made your mistake there.

The universe is actually finite. Very much so. If it weren't, then the big bang would be impossible.

Theists, like myself, believe that God exists without the universe. He is infinity. He is the whole and the universe is only part of it.

Thus, now, we fall back to the whole "theism can't prove God exists except through personal experiences that cannot be verified (or in my case, cases of extreme luck in near-death experiences), versus atheist cannot disprove God exists." Alternatively, there are those special few kinds of atheists who believe that there could be a God, but yet choose to not believe in any religion, therefore they fall back on the classical sense of atheism--the opposite of theism. More of semantics really.

He does that. I tore him apart in another thread where he claimed that religion was the cause of all wars (which, despite being an absolute statement, which by practicallity are usually false). I kindly showed him that all parties to those so-called religious wars had ulterior motivations (i.e. in the Thirty Years' War, between Catholics and Protestants, it originated as a grassroots quasi-civil rights movement, but was crushed due to the fact that they challenged the authority of the state instituted by the heretically empowered Papacy, but once that was settled the vast magnitude of the conflict was propogated by the warmongering ambitions of several other states in the regions, such as Sweden, Spain, France, Austria, etc. Curiously, France, a Catholic nation, joined a Holy War against its fellow Catholics on the side of the people who it slaughtered en masse only years before.)


Btw, this is a temporary alt of my other account cfmonkey45. It's temporarily banned because I had a virus that I suspect was utilized by a hacker to access my facebook and email, so I took it offline just to be safe. I formatted my comp, and now I'm here with an alt for the remainder of my 24-hour request.

[nopasties]

It's not prejudice, it's just observation.
"Incest, a game the whole family can play."

Is this Seth McFarlane, hhhhuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh

[Pious Agnost]

I don't see them as likely, in fact, some of the stories in the Bible are just damn crazy.

But I withold judgement on whether they are right or not...

[Tspk91]

You made your mistake there.

The universe is actually finite. Very much so. If it weren't, then the big bang would be impossible.

Theists, like myself, believe that God exists without the universe. He is infinity. He is the whole and the universe is only part of it.

Thus, now, we fall back to the whole "theism can't prove God exists except through personal experiences that cannot be verified (or in my case, cases of extreme luck in near-death experiences), versus atheist cannot disprove God exists." Alternatively, there are those special few kinds of atheists who believe that there could be a God, but yet choose to not believe in any religion, therefore they fall back on the classical sense of atheism--the opposite of theism. More of semantics really..)

Actually the universe is infinite in volume, and time... it isnt infinite only in mass, but we dont really know. If he is infinity, he is you and all the people. Something infinite will be everything, without exceptions, so a killers mind would be also god mind. Also, if he is the whole, how it is possible that he created the part. What neccessity in that? It doesnt has any sense.

He does that. I tore him apart in another thread where he claimed that religion was the cause of all wars (which, despite being an absolute statement, which by practicallity are usually false). I kindly showed him that all parties to those so-called religious wars had ulterior motivations (i.e. in the Thirty Years' War, between Catholics and Protestants, it originated as a grassroots quasi-civil rights movement, but was crushed due to the fact that they challenged the authority of the state instituted by the heretically empowered Papacy, but once that was settled the vast magnitude of the conflict was propogated by the warmongering ambitions of several other states in the regions, such as Sweden, Spain, France, Austria, etc. Curiously, France, a Catholic nation, joined a Holy War against its fellow Catholics on the side of the people who it slaughtered en masse only years before.)

Well in this you have reason, generalizations are bad. But I think you were a bit biased when you said heretically empowered papacy...

This is a parody, BTW, and I didnt intended to make a true critic of religions. It is only because of the other thread...

[Don in the North]

You made your mistake there.

The universe is actually finite. Very much so. If it weren't, then the big bang would be impossible.

Theists, like myself, believe that God exists without the universe. He is infinity. He is the whole and the universe is only part of it.

Thus, now, we fall back to the whole "theism can't prove God exists except through personal experiences that cannot be verified (or in my case, cases of extreme luck in near-death experiences), versus atheist cannot disprove God exists." Alternatively, there are those special few kinds of atheists who believe that there could be a God, but yet choose to not believe in any religion, therefore they fall back on the classical sense of atheism--the opposite of theism. More of semantics really.



He does that. I tore him apart in another thread where he claimed that religion was the cause of all wars (which, despite being an absolute statement, which by practicallity are usually false). I kindly showed him that all parties to those so-called religious wars had ulterior motivations (i.e. in the Thirty Years' War, between Catholics and Protestants, it originated as a grassroots quasi-civil rights movement, but was crushed due to the fact that they challenged the authority of the state instituted by the heretically empowered Papacy, but once that was settled the vast magnitude of the conflict was propogated by the warmongering ambitions of several other states in the regions, such as Sweden, Spain, France, Austria, etc. Curiously, France, a Catholic nation, joined a Holy War against its fellow Catholics on the side of the people who it slaughtered en masse only years before.)


Btw, this is a temporary alt of my other account cfmonkey45. It's temporarily banned because I had a virus that I suspect was utilized by a hacker to access my facebook and email, so I took it offline just to be safe. I formatted my comp, and now I'm here with an alt for the remainder of my 24-hour request.

hhahahaha im sure you did, we are all impressed, dont worry! But then we still have the inquisitions, crusades and many many other wars to go over, even though irelands religion wars got to a point where your quasi movement save doesnt apply at all.

PS a form of slavery i refer to consists of peer pressure which christianity is a endorser and abuser of.

[Lance-Corporal Jones]

PS a form of slavery i refer to consists of peer pressure which christianity is a endorser and abuser of.

Then abolish fashion, clothing in general, property, and whatever activity which is performed voluntarily beyond eating porridge, defecating and making love. Then there will be no more peer pressure.

[cfmonkey]

Beats me, I would've said that "all generalizations are false"