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    dale and eriador have a lot of money,dale is a small kingdom is not a economic power and eriador is several united factions ( in my opinion eriador is necessary to divide it in several small factions,since eriador is not a kingdom in if).
    then dale and eriador is necessary the income of money lowers for good balance these factions economically in a future patch.
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    I guess there units are cheaper then that of other factions. They are probly bankrupt anyway. Remember the AI does get financial buffs because the AI cant manage its economy.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Whatever the amount of money you have, the AI is going to get more. Say thanks to the money script.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1_Unit View Post
    Whatever the amount of money you have, the AI is going to get more. Say thanks to the money script.
    It is almost neccesary for without it the AI would be perma bankrupt.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Dale and Esgaroth was established there because of good trade options, and the cities became rich because of trading with the dwarves. So i see no problem that Dale is rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunch View Post
    Dale and Esgaroth was established there because of good trade options, and the cities became rich because of trading with the dwarves. So i see no problem that Dale is rich.

    dale is a northern people seemed to rohan in culture,though dale does not have cavalry scarcely.
    That trade with the dwarves,does not mean that they are an economic power.
    dale has a very primitive economy compared with gondor, though they are good warriors.
    dale is a kingdom more small that rohan, with similar economy and culture,but with less warriors and money that rohan.
    is necessary that in a furure pacth,dale is less powerful economically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anibal at portas View Post
    dale is a northern people seemed to rohan in culture,though dale does not have cavalry scarcely.
    That trade with the dwarves,does not mean that they are an economic power.
    dale has a very primitive economy compared with gondor, though they are good warriors.
    dale is a kingdom more small that rohan, with similar economy and culture,but with less warriors and money that rohan.
    is necessary that in a furure pacth,dale is less powerful economically.
    What does Dales millitary power r culture have to do to with their economically power? Gondor is a stronger economically power, but they use the money on a greater army and a greater kingdom. Dale is very strong econamically, because that`s what they focus most on, and they have become very wealthy by trading with the dwarves of Erebor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anibal at portas View Post
    dale is a northern people seemed to rohan in culture,though dale does not have cavalry scarcely.
    I'm not sure the Dalians needed the cavalry to cover the vast distances that the Rohirrim needed to. Just because they're of the same culture doesn't mean they have the same fighting style

    That trade with the dwarves,does not mean that they are an economic power.
    The relations with the Dwarves were as tight as the blocks in Mayan pyramids. Their trade was well established and they each had things the other needed (Dwarves had superb quality metal and Dale had everything else I think)

    dale has a very primitive economy compared with gondor, though they are good warriors.
    Gondor is a true full-fledged kingdom, while Dale is a smaller kingdom. However in the mod Dale's units don't represent the warriors they truly are (I hope this is being fixed in 1.2)
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    Eriador has the economic might of... uhmm.... uhmm...

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    Default Re: dale and eriador money

    dale is small and has good trade rights so he has good economy
    but not perfect
    in my opinion dwarves are better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anibal at portas View Post
    dale and eriador have a lot of money,dale is a small kingdom is not a economic power and eriador is several united factions ( in my opinion eriador is necessary to divide it in several small factions,since eriador is not a kingdom in if).
    then dale and eriador is necessary the income of money lowers for good balance these factions economically in a future patch.
    i agree. eriador can be divided

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    I think people over-emphasize the significance of Dale-Dwarf trade. Just because they trade between themselves doesn't mean Dale suddenly got immensely rich as if they were the only ones who've heard of the concept of "trade".

    However I don't see Eriador being split (officially) because not only is it not necessary but DG has already invested time and effort into it as a whole faction so a submod may be the only way.

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    It is stated in the LotR books that Dale is rich. Eriador has many territory's with quite good farming and very good agricultural goods. End of discussion this can be closed now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muffer View Post
    It is stated in the LotR books that Dale is rich. Eriador has many territory's with quite good farming and very good agricultural goods. End of discussion this can be closed now.
    Its never over.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Default Re: dale and eriador money

    Dale is rich, from trading with the silvan elves and the dwarfes, and they got some nice treasures when Smaug died.

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    Default Re: dale and eriador money

    They even sold stuff in the shire (To Bilbo at his 111th birthday)


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    Me too...

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    Default Re: dale and eriador money

    Eriador = The Shire, Breeland and Dunedain...

    wtf united?

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    eriador in third age is a desert land,small cities or towns not united in a kingdom.

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    Default Re: dale and eriador money

    Quote Originally Posted by Anibal at portas View Post

    A: dale and eriador have a lot of money,dale is a small kingdom is not a economic power and
    B: eriador is several united factions ( in my opinion eriador is necessary to divide it in several small factions,since eriador is not a kingdom in if).
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    A:
    Dale is rich, from trading with the silvan elves and the dwarfes, and they got some nice treasures when Smaug died.
    thats right. i'm reading 'the Hobbit' at the moment. and there you can read
    about the ecomomic strategy of Dale. before the drwarves recover erebor
    they had good relations (and trade rights) with the silvan elves. "Lake Town"
    (i don't really know what it is called in english) the former capital of Dale
    was kind of a important trading center for tradable goods from the west,
    the east and the south (in the book they talk especially about wine).
    Also the mayor of "Lake Town" (?) is a very capitalistic thinking guy, that
    always has to get profit out of all things. i think this stands for the whole
    ideology of the people of dale.

    B:
    Making several faction out of eriador would make not much sence.
    if you only talking about the terretories maybe, but think about the roster.
    there are not enough different military units. also, imagine, different eriador
    factions would fight against each other. would not make much sence too.

    it think TATW could be added a few other factions:

    > Khand
    > Forochel (Lossoth)
    > some invading factions (like the mongols or the timurids in vanilla)

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