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    Default A few questions on Eriador

    Now I haven't actually played as Eriador but they have just invaded me when playing as Rohan and these are a few observations on them, this is around turn 60.

    The unit stats seem to be rather confused, the Suburban Militia are armed solely with pitchforks and their description identifies them as peasants yet they have an attack of 8 and their defence is rather good, even being given a shield bonus when clearly they do not have one - this seemed to allow two units of them to defeat two units of Riddermark Axemen and my generals bodyguard unit in a straight fight - which is rather ridiculous....Also their bodyguard unit of Dunedain Knights seem hopelessly underpowered with an attack of 4?! Surely they would at be fairly decent? With those stats i could defeat them with the lowest kind of spearmen...

    Also on the question of how they look. I realise that much hard work must have gone into skinning them but compared to some of the other beautifully crafted factions such as all the others they look rather poor in comparison, as if they came from Medieval I not II. Their colour scheme also seems odd, is there any reason to suggest that Tolkein intended them to be portrayed in bright and garish green with the Dunedain Knights carrying giant and bright yellow maces? Surely gray would be a more fitting colour to allude to the Grey Company?

    They also seem to be able to support an unreasonable number of troops at once, when they decided to invade me they had four full stacks with more nearer their cities, for a fairly weak kingdom this seems quite odd with them posing more of a threat to me than Mordor...

    Finally is there even any basis for Eriador to exist? From what I read in the books it seemed that the region was effectively ruled by no one, rather being a collection of small city-states; surely these would be ideally suited as rebel settlements instead?


    This is not a criticism of the team, they have done a fantastic job of the game but merely a few questions I had on the topic.

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    They are working on fixing eriador in the up coming patch. As KK said" Eriador as it is just does not work" or something like that.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    DG is reworking the faction with a completely new unit roster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muffer View Post
    DG is reworking the faction with a completely new unit roster.
    and with that we can be sure we will get improved looks for them also! all praise 1.2

    In fact now that I think about it Dale could use a buff also.
    Last edited by Warmaster Tibs; June 18, 2009 at 03:53 AM.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    They are being reworked as well.


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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    Quote Originally Posted by muffer View Post
    They are being reworked as well.
    The Emperor of catkind is pleased...you Muffer get a ball of yarn *hands Muffer a ball of blue yarn* have fun.
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs View Post
    The Emperor of catkind is pleased...you Muffer get a ball of yarn *hands Muffer a ball of blue yarn* have fun.
    And here i was thinking that you were a polar bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriswhite View Post
    And here i was thinking that you were a polar bear
    and here I was thinking your avatar was a white guy
    The AI is like a retarded overwieght child. He realy want all those fries, he just does not know how to get them. http://img1.coolspacetricks.com/imag...unny/81776.gif

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs View Post
    and here I was thinking your avatar was a white guy
    I want to stress that i am not that guy
    And i have never met that guy
    or any of his family
    or friends

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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    And here I am with a avatar that is clearly Pippin


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    Default Re: A few questions on Eriador

    Quote Originally Posted by muffer View Post
    And here I am with a avatar that is clearly Pippin
    Wait is pippin the one with the bow or the one that does magics?



    Quote Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs View Post
    He does look like the more special sort.
    And i beleive he is an older whiter version of king leonidas gone fishing

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    And just for the record I agree with the original post and my earlier posts reinforced this view
    Therefore nothing here could possibly considered as spamming

    Last edited by chriswhite; June 18, 2009 at 04:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrapnel View Post
    Also on the question of how they look. I realise that much hard work must have gone into skinning them but compared to some of the other beautifully crafted factions such as all the others they look rather poor in comparison, as if they came from Medieval I not II. Their colour scheme also seems odd, is there any reason to suggest that Tolkein intended them to be portrayed in bright and garish green with the Dunedain Knights carrying giant and bright yellow maces? Surely gray would be a more fitting colour to allude to the Grey Company?
    As mentioned, they are being being completely reworked but we're not sure if they'll be finished by the time of the next patch, probably not.

    They also seem to be able to support an unreasonable number of troops at once, when they decided to invade me they had four full stacks with more nearer their cities, for a fairly weak kingdom this seems quite odd with them posing more of a threat to me than Mordor...
    All AIs get bonus income in order to be more of a threat, that's why they can support a seemingly unreasonable amount of troops.

    Finally is there even any basis for Eriador to exist? From what I read in the books it seemed that the region was effectively ruled by no one, rather being a collection of small city-states; surely these would be ideally suited as rebel settlements instead?
    This is debatable, lore suggests that the region was pretty sparsely populated but the team wanted to make them a faction to represent the struggles of "ordinary men" and the Dunedain rangers who helped protect them. It also adds diversity by having a faction that isn't typically as "high & heroic" like Gondor, Elves or Dwarves but instead tends to look very "common" which adds to its dramatic effect.

    This Eriador discussion is pretty old and we've been through it more than enough, I don't think there's a need for another go. Plus you guys are already spamming so,

    Closed.

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