Nationalism in Britain

[Copperknickers II]

I thought instead of throwing eggs at Nick Griffin and bawling 'Nazi Scum' at the tops of our voices at anyone who so much as whispers 'BNP', we might have a look at reasons for them and their objectives for a minute. We will see that although they constantly dissasociate themselves from the neo-Nazis, the BNP have other policies which are detrimental to British people, white as well as non-white, settled as well as immigrant.

Introduction and Reasons

Nationalism is a (usually) Right-Wing political ideology dating back hundreds of years. It states that a country should be independant, self-governing and (usually) ethnically 'pure'. It has been shown that extremist nationalism surfaces most strongly at times of economic depression. Their tactics are simple - inspire doubt in the leading party, champion their history and create an ideological future. Invariably, they choose a scapegoat for the economic troubles. Britain has had a turbulent past Century, what with globalisation, two world wars and general multiculturalism, and it is only natural that at this time people are getting restless.

Policies of the BNP

We all know about their stance on immigration, but the BNP have several other extremist and indeed Third World views on other subjects:

Law and order

We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers.

The only Western country that still has the death penalty is America. Interestingly, America has the highest homicide rate among the impoverished in the 1st World, one of the largest gang cultures in the world, and a law allowing them to carry offensive firearms, battlefield tested, around freely in cities. Saudi Arabia, a country employing corporal punishment, forces its women to dress in veils and in Africa, women risk getting gang raped and stoned to death if they go out alone at all. Corporal punishment doesn't seem to work very well, then.

Economy

BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the ending of foreign imports.

This will needless to say cripple our economy - if we give Brits so much as minimum wage for this work, we will have no money whatsoever. British produce is severely limited by space and climate, therefore our diet will be adversely affected. On the other hand, there are certainly moral issues with exploiting Asian workers, which we do currently.

Agriculture

We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

Zones introduced for the protection of species which otherwise will die out within 5 years. Our fishing industry will be considerably worse than now if we have nothing left to fish!

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid.

The BNP's ambitions are all very well for us Whites in Britain,

In Conclusion

The BNP have arisen out of a cesspit of malcontent. In troubled times, the people look to the charismatic leaders. But in the 21st Century world, Britain cannot afford to be isolated. Splendid Isolation did not work in the past, and if we reduce our morals and practices to those of the Third World, our living conditions will soon follow. As a nation, we have abandoned some of our old ways, and we look to the future. We must be proud of our nation, and we must work for a future in which there is no hatred or segregation, and everyone has an equal opporunity to fulfill their potential. There are issues that we must resolve - sweat shop labour and exploitation, and wars and asylum seekers flooding our schools. The BNP policies of new life in Britain's deprived areas are on the right track, but their methods are anti-libertarian and racist.

There is at least one value that Britain retains - that of fairness and kindness to all people. With the advancement of globalisation, we cannot ignore all other peoples, we must work together.

[Mr. Pink]

and in Africa, women risk getting raped if they go out alone at all.

Women face that risk everywhere.

[Lumina]

Women face that risk everywhere.

Russia/Thailand are very well known for that as well, well Thailand for Asians, Russia for about everyone.

[Lance-Corporal Jones]

This article shows much promise as a sober look at the policies of the BNP, I encourage you to continue in this direction.

[Katsumoto]

Interesting topic. Regarding corporal/capital punishment, I've always wondered why it doesn't seem to work. Logic tells me that someone who wishes to hurt or kill somebody else, would fear being punished in such a severe way, that they would not commit the crime. Yet it still happens. Anyone have an explanation to this?

[Copperknickers II]

Interesting topic. Regarding corporal/capital punishment, I've always wondered why it doesn't seem to work. Logic tells me that someone who wishes to hurt or kill somebody else, would fear being punished in such a severe way, that they would not commit the crime. Yet it still happens. Anyone have an explanation to this?

I have been thinking about this myself. The obvious serial killers and paedophiles, are more often than not mentally ill/inherently evil, so of course they do not have any thought for the consequences of their actions.

The main culprits of homicide and violent crime apart from this are gangs. If we take the US, we see that most murderers are black males from deprived areas. They have been let down by the state, and they have been left to rot. They grow up learning to hate the police, who discriminate against them. They live generally violent lives; their education is poor so they don't know better, and the threat of death means nothing to them - they face it every day in the street so they do not fear it.

[johnpaul25]

I have been thinking about this myself. The obvious serial killers and paedophiles, are more often than not mentally ill/inherently evil, so of course they do not have any thought for the consequences of their actions.

The main culprits of homicide and violent crime apart from this are gangs. If we take the US, we see that most murderers are black males from deprived areas. They have been let down by the state, and they have been left to rot. They grow up learning to hate the police, who discriminate against them. They live generally violent lives; their education is poor so they don't know better, and the threat of death means nothing to them - they face it every day in the street so they do not fear it.

Its kind of ignorant saying blacks are mostly responsible for all the murders that occur in the US. Please remind me about the colour of guy that shot up a college last year, the guy was white. And just last week a racist white man went into a museum and shot it up killing a guard in the process. Most if not all of the mass shootings that have occurred in schools and colleges, the pepetriator is a white. pls get ur fact straight. Everybody kills in the US. Black , white, hispanic and so on.

[Каие]

Nationalism is a Right-Wing political ideology dating back hundreds of years. It states that a country should be centralised, self-governing and (usually) ethnically 'pure'.

You what?

Definitions of nationalism;

• the doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other
• the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination
• the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals
• Nationalism refers to an ideology, a sentiment, a form of culture, or a social movement that focuses on the nation. It is a type of collectivism emphasizing the collective of a specific nation.

The SNP is Nationalist, as is Plaid Cymru, and Sinn Fein. None of them are Right wing and none advocate what you put.

[Copperknickers II]

You what?

Definitions of nationalism;

• the doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other
• the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination
• the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals

The SNP is Nationalist, as is Plaid Cymru, and Sinn Fein. None of them are Right wing and none advocate what you put.

The BNP do not advocate anything in your list of definitions, so i can only suggest you use a better dictionary. Anyway, i fixed it. I am not perfect, i make mistakes.

[Desperado †]

The BNP are badly named as they are neither really a nationalist party nor a British one. They are an authoritarian white supremacist party, and have no idea about what British culture really is.

And yes, nationalism is neither a right wing, left wing, authoritarian or liberal trait.

[Каие]

Actually the BNP believes in ETHNIC NATIONALISM. In that they believe British is a nationality, which it isn't, and therefore they think;

• the doctrine that your national ethnicity and interests are superior to any other
• the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign (immigrant) domination
• Nationalism refers to an ideology, a sentiment, a form of culture, or a social movement that focuses on the nation. It is a type of collectivism emphasizing the collective of a specific nation.

[Muagan_ra]

The BNP also wants to roll back the "normalisation" of Homosexuality, send women back to the kitchen, and (get this) bring the Irish Republic back into the British fold via a "community of nations". It's all on their website.

To think that people vote for this unworkable just because they're afraid of Pakistani immigrants, it's frightening.

[Babur]

The BNP also wants to roll back the "normalisation" of Homosexuality, send women back to the kitchen, and (get this) bring the Irish Republic back into the British fold via a "community of nations". It's all on their website.

To think that people vote for this unworkable just because they're afraid of Pakistani immigrants, it's frightening.

They also deny the holocaust and wish to ethnically cleanse the UK so that nobody from outside comes within a mile of it.

[Fiyenyaa]

They also deny the holocaust and wish to ethnically cleanse the UK so that nobody from outside comes within a mile of it.

Virtually no-one (including virtually all members of the BNP, I'd bet) would be allowed to stay anyway, since they seem to always talk about "indigenous British who have been here for thousands of years."

I'd love for Nick Griffin to take one of those DNA tests which tell you your ancestry. I'd bet he isn't even 100% European, let alone British.

[Babur]

Virtually no-one (including virtually all members of the BNP, I'd bet) would be allowed to stay anyway, since they seem to always talk about "indigenous British who have been here for thousands of years."

I'd love for Nick Griffin to take one of those DNA tests which tell you your ancestry. I'd bet he isn't even 100% European, let alone British.

yuh seriously he should take a DNA test, I bet he will be annoyed .

There would be a massive brain drain if they got into power

[Barry Goldwater]

yuh seriously he should take a DNA test, I bet he will be annoyed .

There would be a massive brain drain if they got into power

Won't the BNP have to turn Britain over to the Welsh if they get into power?

[removeduser_487563287433]

The BNP aren't nationalist - they're imperialist.

[Deep_Red]

I always knew it was good to store some guns for the case
guys like the BNP get hold on power...

[johnpaul25]

If the BNP ever gain power Britain is gonna burn.

[Edward lV]

If the BNP ever gain power Britain is gonna burn.

Literaly? I reckon if the bnp did get in Britain would end up in some major wars, like the nazis. The maltreatment of miorities in developed countries is no longer tollerated by the world powers. And there invasion of Ireland would probably bring the E.U into it. BNP would ruin Britain from day 1.