Should brothers and sisters be allowed to have children through an incest relationship?

[Heathen Hammer]

If brother and a sister have a child, there is a huge chance, that child would be born with serious disabilities. But will it be a right thing to do to allow them to do so if they love each other and want to have children?
Discuss.

[C-Rob]

... my sisters are ugly...

lol, no, I think to have a fully functioning and responsible human being that benefits society, they must go out and mate with someone else not in the family, not to mention the genetics argument.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

No, solely due to the potential genetic mutations which can carry hardships & suffering for the child. IMO....

Other than that, it's their business, consenting adults and all....

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

If brother and a sister have a child, there is a huge chance, that child would be born with serious disabilities. But will it be a right thing to do to allow them to do so if they love each other and want to have children?
Discuss.

Discuss what? It's a sick, pervert thing, one that degenerated many ruling families throughout history, and has been introduced to the Hall of since centuries. Is this some kind of Russian joke or are you asking seriously?

[Gromovnik]

Discuss what? It's a sick, pervert thing, one that degenerated many ruling families throughout history, and has been introduced to the Hall of since centuries. Is this some kind of Russian joke or are you asking seriously?

And why do you have to mention his nationality? Some racist thing?

[Copperknickers II]

No. It is not a crime as such, but it should be prevented from happening for the sake of the offspring. Besides, it is detrimental to the gene pool.

[Dromikaites]

I think "brothers" and "sistas" have kids all the time and nobody finds it illegal.

[Confederate Jeb]

No.

[Lance-Corporal Jones]

Seriously, what's with all these "should ______ be allowed to have children?"

What is this, the initial draft for a large-scale eugenics program? What's with the fixation with who can have children and with whom?

[Poach]

Let's not make it legal to bring more mental disability into the gene pool..

[nopasties]

Some study I read says that you need to be at least 3rd cousins without having potential genetic problems in the children. Besides the morally unacceptable issue of this question I see at as just as irressponsible of the parents to do drugs and drink heavily throughout the pregnancy

[MaximiIian]

Where's the "don't care" option?
'Tis neither mine nor anyone else's business what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.

[KingOfTheIsles]

Oh dear....

Some people here really need to compare their answers in this thread with their answers in the eugenics thread and have a good, long think about the internal consistency of their morality.

[spartan117]

Statistically speaking there is a greater chance for a genetic disorder to occur however I am against any authoritarian measures of creating laws to avoid such relationships. At most awareness of the increase chances should widely be known however that is the extent of any measures that should be passed.

Any one have any studies of the percentage of the increased chance of genetic disorders as a result of incest (preferably including the types of relationships) in relation to 'normal' births?

Such stats would be necessary for any further discussion to occur.

@dr. croccer

But wasnt his condition the result of many incestuous relationships occurring over many years......centuries.

Oh dear....

Some people here really need to compare their answers in this thread with their answers in the eugenics thread and have a good, long think about the internal consistency of their morality.

Sort of what I observed as well.

[C-Rob]

Where's the "don't care" option?
'Tis neither mine nor anyone else's business what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.

no one ever said they shouldn't have sex- the end result, the impregnation is the problem.

[MaximiIian]

no one ever said they shouldn't have sex- the end result, the impregnation is the problem.

Not necessarily. Unless both of the sibling's parents had x genetic disability (or one was a carrier), it's unlikely that the sibling's kid would have x genetic disability. Now, repeated inbreeding, over a few generations, would make that likelihood more pronounced. But even so, that's just likelihood; it is no assurance of genetic disorders occurring. You don't know, they don't know. So just leave it at that let consenting people do what they want.

Now, if you want to make it socially/culturally uncouth...well, it kinda is anyway. However, making it illegal is just beating a dead horse.

what's with all the perverted questions in the Ethos forum lately?

The irony of this question coming from someone with a Quagmire avatar is astounding.

[nopasties]

Where's the "don't care" option?
'Tis neither mine nor anyone else's business what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.

The sex is a different issue, the direct question is

Should brothers and sisters be allowed to have children through an incest relationship?

that is just plain irressponsible or friggin ignorant to do, their child will be a miserable collection of genetic defects, likely things like retardation and much worse will be their child's fate-->that is criminal in my mind if they consent and carry the child to term with knowledge of the likely consequences

[MaximiIian]

that is criminal in my mind if they consent and carry the child to term with knowledge of the likely consequences

If that's the case, you could say the same thing about any parent with retarded children or kids with genetic defects.

[nopasties]

If that's the case, you could say the same thing about any parent with retarded children or kids with genetic defects.

Haven't had a class in biology lately but I believe it don't work the same. Incestual procreation has higher chance of the appearance of any nasty little genetic disorder. Other parents who end up with retarded kids is more a matter of bad sperm or ova. Correct me if I'm wrong anybody but it's a hellish existence their child could have. The selfishness involved in carrying a child to term in such a relationship is hugely immoral in every respect.

The other issue I'm not saying it would easily be a slippery slope to other worse forms of incestual relationships, but if his were to be accepted it is one step closer to the rest of things. There is a powder keg of other issues once this taboo starts to be acceptable. I'd rather this be as unacceptable as it is generally regarded because a household where these things occur is a too easy cliff to fall off for other horrors

[MaximiIian]

Haven't had a class in biology lately but I believe it don't work the same. Incestual procreation has higher chance of the appearance of any nasty little genetic disorder.

When done repeatedly over several generations, yes. An above post used an image of the ugly Charles II of Spain, an inbred Habsburg dynast, as an example; however, he fails to mention that such things occurred only after nearly six generations of repeated first-cousin inbreeding.
A one-off encounter wouldn't cause that kind of thing.