High Elves vs. Silvan Elves

[Swanny777]

I have noticed that most people like High Elves more. What are the main differences? I tend to lean to Silvian because archers are my favorite units, but High Elves seem to be a bit better in infantry. Is there anything else important that separates them?

[Sator Mortis]

Silvan Elves are in a far more interesting position, able to strike against all the enemies and able to help out all the good factions.

[Warmaster Tibs]

Roster wise I would say High Elves are superior but in campaign the Silvian Elves have a much better postition.

[A1_Unit]

Roster wise I would say High Elves are superior but in campaign the Silvian Elves have a much better postition.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Haldir]

Silvan has Haldir.
Ergo, Silvan is best.
Discussion over.

[Warmaster Tibs]

Silvan has Haldir.
Ergo, Silvan is best.
Discussion over.

Yeah and he got killed by a no-name generic Uruk-Hia.

[Jean=A=Luc]

Yeah and he got killed by a no-name generic Uruk-Hai.

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

[A1_Unit]

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

That was exactly what I thought when he did that!

[Warmaster Tibs]

That was exactly what I thought when he did that!

How funny thats what I was thinking. I also noticed on how Gimli just jumped into the hoarde of Uruk Hia and was not impaled on their pikes. Either way Gimli is cool.

[Abyrvalg]

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

And they obediently charged. Who is Aragorn? Elven commander?
He is no more than boyfriend of elven princess.
But elves bought some time for humans to retreat.

[Andurath]

And they obediently charged. Who is Aragorn? Elven commander?
He is no more than boyfriend of elven princess.
But elves bought some time for humans to retreat.

Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros therefore a distant nephew to Elrond. He reperesents the last in the line of Numenor and as such represents the faithful men Elves and Maiar in his ancestry.Kinda like Tuor he was an Elf Friend raised directly by Elrond himself an adopted son.

So, there are many reasons why that 'could' be plausible. But, it is not at all what happened in the book as much of the helms deep battle in the movie.

High Elves are in a painful position to support anything half my generals are dead by the time I get to Mordor...but hehe they better watch out when I get there!

Silvan Elves are in a very cool position and they can be really effective as well..I just like having Elven cavalry, especially with the real combat mod.

I like most of the movie though and I enjoyed the Aragorn they portrayed, he was mostly not what I envisioned from the books. The whole 'I don't want to be like Isildur' thing was very dissapointing.

[P|A|ntZ]

And they obediently charged. Who is Aragorn? Elven commander?
He is no more than boyfriend of elven princess.
But elves bought some time for humans to retreat.

Haldir and his elven archers were just a plot device in the movie. They illustrated good will between elves and men in the movie (as an allegory for the actual elven battles far in the north) but had to be gone by the time the citadel at helm's deep was besieged. PJ didn't want them to impact the outcome of the battle or how the end unfolded. Having them buy time for the escape of the Rohan infantry was just a convenient way to eliminate them from the story at that point.

[Warmaster Tibs]

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

After I watched it again just now I think it was to save Gimli from drowning in the pond he fell in after diving into the enemy to save Aragon after the wall was breached.

[TheXand]

After I watched it again just now I think it was to save Gimli from drowning in the pond he fell in after diving into the enemy to save Aragon after the wall was breached.

haha big lol at that (and the funnies before)

also, Third Age was good fun uh once you got over the fact that you were playing as a bunch of randoms who are apparently the ones responsible for blowing up barad-Dur

and fighting the OotMM faction is stupidly hard as elves because the High Elves with their feeble economy can only support a few units and after winning a hard battle/s against superior number armies you move on to try and take their cities and bang fullstack defense in a city that you now don't have the troops to take

oh one more thing, it's silvan or sylvan NOT silvian

[Shadow wolf]

I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

Well if they hadn't charged into that spearwall, Uruks could move freely inside from that breach spread out their battleline. After that those few remaining elves would got surrounded.

[Elfhelm]

Its a kings perogative to send less significant folk to their deaths! Especially mechanical mystery mercanries!

[Kawee]

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

I thought of M2TW right away when I saw that. I thought, if I was commanding the Orcs, Men and Elves would not stand a chance

Also, at the battle of Helms Deep, didn't the relief cavalry force charged head-first into the pike-wall?

I know I might be side-tracking here, but in the movie Troy with Brad Pitt, when he tried to take the Trojan beach with 50 men, why didn't the Trojan skirmishers and archers strike the rear of the shield-wall?

Back on topic. I think the difference between the range combat of the two elves are not much. But the difference between the two faction's infantry is quite big I think. HE's infantry can compete with dwarves! Also, flanking charging cavalry is a real game-winner as we all know.

[Warmaster Tibs]

Also, at the battle of Helms Deep, didn't the relief cavalry force charged head-first into the pike-wall?

Yes, but Gandalf blinded them with the light so the pike wall was far less effeciant in its job allowing the forces of Rohan to trample right through them. What I found amazing is that they could move down the hugely steep hill without falling down it.

[bentlemp]

I thought of M2TW right away when I saw that. I thought, if I was commanding the Orcs, Men and Elves would not stand a chance

Also, at the battle of Helms Deep, didn't the relief cavalry force charged head-first into the pike-wall?

I know I might be side-tracking here, but in the movie Troy with Brad Pitt, when he tried to take the Trojan beach with 50 men, why didn't the Trojan skirmishers and archers strike the rear of the shield-wall?

Back on topic. I think the difference between the range combat of the two elves are not much. But the difference between the two faction's infantry is quite big I think. HE's infantry can compete with dwarves! Also, flanking charging cavalry is a real game-winner as we all know.

Yeah I was quite shocked Saruman just said ... 'go to Helm's Deep! While you're getting killed I'm going to sit in my tower with my nosferatu fingernails and check out chicks in my palantir'....
No real surprise they lost.... I once caught my boss watching porn when we were supposed to be working on a project and wouldnt you know it....the business went under. No real surprise there either.

[Vhaelor]

You can thank PJ for that little gem, it wasn't in the book. I especially love the part when Aragorn charges all the elven warriors into the Uruk spearwall so they could get impaled. What an awesome leader and tactician.

Amen to that, Captain.

PJ fails.