Mod request.

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 04:54 AM

JUST FOUND OUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. Should I request that this thread be closed?

Are there any mods that increase the size of the map by zooming, and not expanding. If not has anyone thought about doing one. Ihate to ask people to do things I can't do myself, but modding confuses me. My idea would be a more defensive, and lore based campaign. Take for example the Silvan Elves. In the book, once they had captured dol guldur, they really did nothing, and although there was nothing to do I doubt they would have if there was. My proposal is to do something such as increase the campaign map by 5 (If possible, and I know it's a lot of work.) so instead of 5 settlements in mirkwood, there are 25 and it will take a lot more time to get around (I also think 12 turns a year should be used.) The result of this is a Silvan campaign that (in my opinion) is more fun and lore based, Like as the silvan elves it should be a long and hard fought battle to retake mirkwood, and once you do, you will have to fight tooth and nail to keep it. I believe someone working on a submod wrote a script that as soon as the silvan elves took dol guldur, or Eriador took carn dum, the previous owners basically started a one faction invasion against them to reclaim it. The Silvans victory conditions could be something like capture all mirkwood and lorien settlements, and hold them until the end of the campaign.

this would go well with these mods, as they are creating a lot of micro factions, that with a singl settlement would be a lot easier to wipe out than in lore.
DaC
Unfinished tales

Do you think this is a good idea

**Beorn** · June 13, 2009, 04:58 AM

You'll have to create 25 fictional ones...

**Ragnarök** · June 13, 2009, 05:03 AM

More regions would be nice

Why not something like, Woodland Realm part A, B, C and so on?
I wouldn't say the map should be expand though, only new regions as there are not all slots used.

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ragnarök

More regions would be nice

Why not something like, Woodland Realm part A, B, C and so on?
I wouldn't say the map should be expand though, only new regions as there are not all slots used.

but I don't want it to be a cluster

of regions either. and I think fictional settlements is a small, though unwanted price to pay.

**Ragnarök** · June 13, 2009, 05:25 AM

Why not? There are already regions called like that, for example Umbar has 3 regions called Umbar(umbar, south, north).

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Ragnarök

Why not? There are already regions called like that, for example Umbar has 3 regions called Umbar(umbar, south, north).

what I meant was I don't want fictional settlements/regions, but it's a small price to pay. like fictional settlements are fine but I would prefer canonical ones. Another idea I just thought of would be something like KK was planning to do. make some settlements have a limit that they can advance to. you could keep all current settlements as they are ,but put a limit to all the new settlements.

**eskrogh** · June 13, 2009, 05:28 AM

but more settlements in mirkwood would require more even more settlements everywhere else
and there is no room for it

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by eskrogh

but more settlements in mirkwood would require more even more settlements everywhere else
and there is no room for it

Thats why I want to increase the scale of the map, and add settlements everywhere sothere will be much more regional fighting and whatnot.

**eskrogh** · June 13, 2009, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by evinmulligan

Thats why I want to increase the scale of the map, and add settlements everywhere sothere will be much more regional fighting and whatnot.

not that... there is max on about 195/200 regions... and there aint room for 25 regions in mirkwood, eriandor, gondor, mordor, and such

**Beorn** · June 13, 2009, 05:31 AM

Seconded. I meant settlement names, not region names...

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 05:37 AM

I thought vanill had something like 214

**axnsan** · June 13, 2009, 05:38 AM

vannila has 106, 112 counting the americas

**Ragnarök** · June 13, 2009, 05:42 AM

Wasn't 199 standard since RTW times? Because MTW is basically the same, they even have their "Marian Reforms" left in their script.

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 05:41 AM

Maybe it was S.S. that had. I think I remember something about a mod with in and around 214 settlements.

**axnsan** · June 13, 2009, 05:42 AM

ss has 199 settlemnts. anything above that crashes the game, so you haven't seen it, believe me

**Skeleton Of The West** · June 13, 2009, 05:56 AM

I like this idea, and thought about it myself, and if could have come true it would be much funner more.
Unfortunately, there is a settlement limit that others mentioned, so you cant much more new settlements. Even if you could add all of those you wish, you will have to invent a lot of fictional settlements, which will decrease the LOTR feeling of this mod.

Even though, it is a poll if we like the idea, so I vote yes

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Originally Posted by evinmulligan

this would go well with these mods, as they are creating a lot of micro factions, that with a singl settlement would be a lot easier to wipe out than in lore.
DaC
Unfinished tales

Do you think this is a good idea

I am one of the developers of The Unfinished Tales, and I cant tell you that most of the factions we add will have more than 1 settlement, and we add more units to those new factions and balance them, so it wont be so easy to eliminate a new faction that is created by us.

**Liamar** · June 13, 2009, 06:22 AM

I love this idea! Mirkwood made a big place with lots of settlements(Not meaby fictional ones, but such as orc, or elfen encampment or such. After all there might be many more sttlements not mentioned in Tolkiens lore) And fighting for survival would be awesome

I my self dont like that there are so few sttlements in TATW. Some villages and forts could be added. Meaby sub-mod with Map made of Mirkwood and misty mountains only? With factions such as Dwarves, Silvan Elfes, Some Men, Goblins and Orcs Of Dol Guldur... Id love spider riders

**evinmulligan** · June 13, 2009, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Liamar

Id love spider riders

your joking... right?

Also I have learned that this is impossible, but I like your idea of focusing on smaller areas of the map. Maybe we could have a TATW Kingdoms expansion.