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    The Andaman Islands

    Far off the East coast of India lie the Andaman Islands, a small and insignificant Island chain. But this island chain holds a secret. Long before the Portuguese and Arabs explored and colonized the islands, the indigenous Austronesian people had been living on the Andaman islands. Akin to the Aborigines of Australia, the "negritos" (as the Portugese would later call them meaning "little blacks") once dominated the Andaman Islands. They were divided along tribal lines and the five major tribes were the Great Andamanese, who inhabited the largest area of the Islands, the Onge, who inhabited the Southern most Island, the Jarawa, who lived at the southern tip of the Great Andaman Island, the Jangil, who inhabited the small Island south of Great Andaman and the Sentenelese, who lived on Sentinel Island.

    But, with the passage of time the indigenous peoples of the Andaman islands have been reduced to the point of near extinction through Diseases and policies brought by the British authorities which controlled the Andaman Islands, along with the rest of India during the period of Colonialism. The Great Andamanese, who once were the most populous people of the islands have been reduced to a population of just 48 individuals. The Jangil people, extinct as an ethnic group. The range of the Onge, reduced to the fringes of their territory. The Jarawa, having fled to the fringes of the island refuse all contact with the outside world and have killed intruders. Only one group remained untouched on their island refuge. A lost world where a life as old as our species is still being lived.
    The Sentenelese

    The Sentenelese are a secretive people. A trait which has ensured their survival in a rapidly changing world. What little we know about them comes from the few expeditions led to Sentinel Island and from shipwrecked sailors whose unlucky fate it was to be washed upon Sentinel Island and killed by the natives. Here is a transcript of the first friendly encounter with the Sentenelese in early 1991 by Adam Goodheart of
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    Four days earlier, a government contact party had paid a visit to North Sentinel, the first such expedition in more than a year. At first, as the anthropologists, constables, and officials approached the beach in the Tarmugli's motorized dinghy, they could see no one on shore. Then, finally, a few Sentenelese stepped out from behind some bushes and started to gesture at the explorers, seemingly trying to indicate that they wanted gifts. As usual, the dinghy moved down the beach to a safe spot, and a crewman jumped out to drop off a bag of coconuts. As usual, the Sentenelese rushed down to grab it. But for the first time ever, the aborigi-nes brought no weapons with them when they approached the water's edge - only mesh baskets and the iron-tipped wooden adzes they some-times used to chop apart the coconuts. Emboldened, the dinghy's passengers tore open another sack of coconuts and threw them into the water. Five of the Sentenelese swam out to collect the nuts, and a few others brought out one of their canoes. The contact team members gestured to them to come closer, but the natives got nervous and went back onshore. Deciding that they had taken enough risks for one morning, the explorers went back to the Tarmugli for lunch. In the afternoon, however, some of them decided to return. This time, they found at least two dozen aborigines waiting for them. One, a young man, was holding a bow and arrow, which he pointed at the intruders, but a woman quickly came over and pushed the arrow down. The man took his weapons and buried them in the sand. At this, a great many of the Sentenelese started running down the beach and splashing through the surf toward the dinghy. The leader of the contact party, a small, officious bureaucrat with the title Director of Tribal Welfare, stood up and started personally throwing coconuts out to them. Then the Director leapt from the boat into the chest-high water - one of the young Sentenelese men recoiled in fright - and handed coconuts to the tribesmen as they crowded around him. After he had gone through five bags of coconuts, he climbed into the dinghy, headed back to the Tarmugli, and returned to Port Blair to spread word of his triumph.

    As we can tell from the observations of the Anthropologists, The Sentenelese acted cautiously and for their own interest. After the gifts were given by the party, the Sentenelese showed no interest in establishing contact and retreated back to their forests. No one really knows how many Sentenelese there are, or how many villages ore on the small 72 square KM island, but estimates range from as low as 30 or 40 individuals, to as high as 500. Next to nothing is also know about the Uncontacted tribe's relatioship with the other Andamanese, but Anthropologists suggest the Onge as being the closest tribe to the Sentenelese due to similarities with canoe design.
    Society

    Little is known about the society and behavior of the Sentenelese people, but observations by Anthropologists have yielded at least a small picture of what Sentenelese societal behavior may be like. A signature item of dress for the Sentenelese is a bark waistband worn by the men of the tribe which is unknown among other Andamanese tribes, and wear nothing else but leaves, The Sentenelese have also been observed painting themselves with white paint. When approached by strangers, the Sentenelese often act violently. Brandishing their spears and bows, many Anthropologists have been injured by Sentenelese arrows. When distressed or agitated, Sentenelese men have been known to brandish their erect Phalli toward the source of their disturbance and brandish their weapons. Little is known about ritual or ceremony, but the Sentenelese have been observed singing and dancing and burying their dead. As in other Andamanese tribes, the Sentenelese are thought to be Patriarchal, with the oldest male's descision being the final say in all disputes and councils.
    Way of life

    Like their supposed relatives the Onge tribe, the Sentenelese fish on light outrigger canoes built from lashed together pieces of wood. Although no one has ever observed the Sentenelese fishing, it is assumed they use nets and crude hooks to fish. From their arsenal of bows and throwing spears, it is also postulated that the Sentenelese hunt the birds which are plentiful on their island. Nothing is known for certain about the Sentenelese language, or it's relationship with the other languages of the Andamanese peoples, but it is assumed it must be related in some way with them. An expedition which had two Onge tribesmen try to communicate ended in failure when the Sentenelese were agitated by the Onge tribesman's bullhorn and the Onge could not hear the Sentenelese from the boat to see if their languages shared a close kinship.
    Closing

    The Sentenelese are one of the last remaining uncontacted primitive tribes left on the planet. In a world of I-pods, the Internet and television, the Sentenelese continue to live as they have lived for thousands of years, a relic from a time when Human beings were not yet masters of our world. By studying them, we are really studying ourselves, our story and our place on this planet.
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    http://www.andaman.org/BOOK/chapter8/text8.htm#sentineli

    http://www.andaman.org/BOOK/reprints...-goodheart.htm


    http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wor...daman-islands/

    "Encyclopedia of Primitive tribes in India" P.K. Mohanty

    *Warning, some sources contain indigenous nudity.




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    I thought I would try something different then Dinosaurs. This is just a brief overview of one of my favorite Anthropological subjects. Post feedback!
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    I made a thread about these guys three or four years ago. Cue five pages of rabid Americans saying we should wipe them off the face of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octy View Post
    I made a thread about these guys three or four years ago. Cue five pages of rabid Americans saying we should wipe them off the face of the earth.
    Great job portraying the "ignorant American" stereotype guys!
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    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

    IF THEY DON"T BUY OUR BLUE JEANS< MCDONALDS< AND IPODS WE SHOULD BOMB THEM WITH OUR BOMBS AND PLANE THEM WITH OUR PLANES>
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

    IF THEY DON"T BUY OUR BLUE JEANS< MCDONALDS< AND IPODS WE SHOULD BOMB THEM WITH OUR BOMBS AND PLANE THEM WITH OUR PLANES>
    That was pretty much it, minus the bit about iPods. Still, I've always found the idea of uncontacted groups of people to be quite fascinating, especially in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octy View Post
    Still, I've always found the idea of uncontacted groups of people to be quite fascinating, especially in this day and age.
    As well have I.
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    Could always try building a McDonalds on that island, they would love that. Not sure exactly what they would be paying with though we'll have introduce them to concept of currency first.

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    Great thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keravnos View Post
    Great thread.
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    Aw geez, thanks!
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    It's always interesting to hear about these isolated societies.


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    These people are a treasure for learning about our ancestors. I hope in the future that a researcher is accepted to live among them and learn as much as he can about them as it would be the same as speaking to our ancestors tens of thousands years in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keravnos View Post
    These people are a treasure for learning about our ancestors. I hope in the future that a researcher is accepted to live among them and learn as much as he can about them as it would be the same as speaking to our ancestors tens of thousands years in the past.
    My sentiments exactly. Hopefully the Sentenelese are left alone and their lifestyle preserved for that lucky and brave Anthropologist who is excepted among them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keravnos View Post
    These people are a treasure for learning about our ancestors. I hope in the future that a researcher is accepted to live among them and learn as much as he can about them as it would be the same as speaking to our ancestors tens of thousands years in the past.
    No it wouldn't.

    It would be the same as speaking to a to a guy who is living primitively on an island and extremely hostile to outsiders.

    They have been on their island for who knows how many 1000's of years, and would bear little resemblance to my ansestors who lived in Northern Europe and went on to be part of western civilization 10,000 years ago.

    While the study might be interesting from a scientific stand point, you wouldn't be speaking to an ancient european, an ancient african or an ancient chinese. They would be unique to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    No it wouldn't.

    It would be the same as speaking to a to a guy who is living primitively on an island and extremely hostile to outsiders.

    They have been on their island for who knows how many 1000's of years, and would bear little resemblance to my ansestors who lived in Northern Europe and went on to be part of western civilization 10,000 years ago.

    While the study might be interesting from a scientific stand point, you wouldn't be speaking to an ancient european, an ancient african or an ancient chinese. They would be unique to themselves.
    I think Keravnos was talking about their way of life, not their language etc. And it's true, they preserve a way of life that has been lost for most of the rest of the world. We could learn a lot about the possible life styles of primitive societies by looking at the Sentenelese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I think Keravnos was talking about their way of life, not their language etc. And it's true, they preserve a way of life that has been lost for most of the rest of the world. We could learn a lot about the possible life styles of primitive societies by looking at the Sentenelese.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    My sentiments exactly. Hopefully the Sentenelese are left alone and their lifestyle preserved for that lucky and brave Anthropologist who is excepted among them.
    If you happen to find a feral child in the forrest who cant speak you wouldnt think "WOW, he preserved the old way of life when our ancestors were unable to speak yet, lets examine him!", no, you would help him, just like this people must be helped.

    They are not undeveloped by choice, they are undeveloped because something went wrong and they failed to keep up with us and they are obviously NOT in the position to decide what is good for them, they dont have enough information about the outside world to make this choice.

    ...not that they have a choice, no one has the right to let their children live in the stone age and no one has the right to let other people live in the stone age, this is the 21. century, we survive by our civilization, we all are in the same boat, our civilization needs educated men so everyone should be educated, if necessary, by force.

    Just think about how many gifted men we "lose" in every year because they never learn to read, maybe some of them already should have invented the cure for the cancer if they had the chance to become more than the stone age hunter-gatherer what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithradates View Post
    If you happen to find a feral child in the forrest who cant speak you wouldnt think "WOW, he preserved the old way of life when our ancestors were unable to speak yet, lets examine him!", no, you would help him, just like this people must be helped.
    Completely different cases, the child isn't in the woods by choice, he would have led a normal life otherwise. These people are uncontacted by choice. They don't want your help, they want to be left alone. their society has remained the same for thousands of years, a feral child has no lifestyle to preserve, it would just keep trying to survive.
    They are not undeveloped by choice, they are undeveloped because something went wrong and they failed to keep up with us and they are obviously NOT in the position to decide what is good for them, they dont have enough information about the outside world to make this choice.
    You sound like a 19th century colonialist. These people are happy as they are right now, they do not want to be contacted or hear what we have to tell them. They attack people because they want to be left alone. Nothing 'went wrong", they just live a different life then you and I. You cannot judge them by looking through our eyes, "what's good for them" is being left alone. We cannot decide for them what they want.
    ...not that they have a choice, no one has the right to let their children live in the stone age and no one has the right to let other people live in the stone age, this is the 21. century, we survive by our civilization, we all are in the same boat, our civilization needs educated men so everyone should be educated, if necessary, by force.
    What right have you to change how these people live? Their civilization has survived for thousands of years without our interference.

    Just think about how many gifted men we "lose" in every year because they never learn to read, maybe some of them already should have invented the cure for the cancer if they had the chance to become more than the stone age hunter-gatherer what they are.
    Straw man, you cannot force people to change their lives to fit our own. It's cultural genocide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithradates View Post
    If you happen to find a feral child in the forrest who cant speak you wouldnt think "WOW, he preserved the old way of life when our ancestors were unable to speak yet, lets examine him!", no, you would help him, just like this people must be helped.

    They are not undeveloped by choice, they are undeveloped because something went wrong and they failed to keep up with us and they are obviously NOT in the position to decide what is good for them, they dont have enough information about the outside world to make this choice.

    ...not that they have a choice, no one has the right to let their children live in the stone age and no one has the right to let other people live in the stone age, this is the 21. century, we survive by our civilization, we all are in the same boat, our civilization needs educated men so everyone should be educated, if necessary, by force.

    Just think about how many gifted men we "lose" in every year because they never learn to read, maybe some of them already should have invented the cure for the cancer if they had the chance to become more than the stone age hunter-gatherer what they are.

    I do hope this is a bad attempt at a troll or a joke or something.


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    "When distressed or agitated, Sentenelese men have been known to brandish their erect Phalli toward the source of their disturbance"

    That's what the ancient hunter gatherer lifestyle can do for you, no viagra needed there.

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    We need to get these savages some clothes and proper Christian names!
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