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    As Christopher Hitchens has said, an English nurse actually left after Mother Teresa had refused to help a child who would certainly have lived had he had a course of antibiotics. Her response was that it was irrelevant because he was going to meet God anyway! She wasn't interested in the living or potentially living, only the dying, and she was only interested in the dying for her own selfish pleasure in getting off on playing the ministering angel.
    http://www.fitz-claridge.com/Articles/MotherTeresa.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDPpg...eature=related

    Jesus Christ, she never helped anyone but GOD.

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    Old news, anyone who's actually studied her life knows this already, and it's not cause for non-canonization. She should take her rightful place as a saint.

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    Whats one compared to thousands? Call out the bad all you want but the good is better than the evil. Is it not better to do a little evil to do good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    Whats one compared to thousands? Call out the bad all you want but the good is better than the evil. Is it not better to do a little evil to do good?
    What good did she actually do? She deliberately put on a show of humbleness and poverty, when her organization was swimming in cash, she deliberately deprived those under her care of proper treatment and facilities in order to keep up her "humble" image, she praised dictators, was a friend of the rich, openly stated that helping people for their sake is meaningless and refused to give back stolen money.

    Yeah, a shining beacon of love and compassion.
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    We know this already. It means nothing. She is a saint. There are much worse.

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    Sooo... basically, your only evidence is a non-verified blog and a clearly biased video by Penn and Teller, who are and have been factually errant in the past.

    I'm not defending her, but I'm questioning your attack.

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    'If there is an ultimate meaning to existence, as I believe is the case, the answer is to be found within nature, not beyond it. The universe might indeed be a fix, but if so, it has fixed itself.' - Paul Davies, the guy that religious apologists always take out of context.

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    Is she no remembered for the good? How can you say she did no good when she is remembered for it?
    It still goes with do a little bad to do good. The bible said you can do this. She did this. Saints are people who are nice and such. The origianl 12 are saints? They are probably better people than anyione here. Saints are better people than anyone. Even atheists say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    Is she no remembered for the good? How can you say she did no good when she is remembered for it?
    You've never heard of myths and legends, have you? Why not present a source of this "good", if it's so well known?

    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    It still goes with do a little bad to do good. The bible said you can do this.
    It seems you've missed a little part of my previous post:

    What good did she actually do? She deliberately put on a show of humbleness and poverty, when her organization was swimming in cash, she deliberately deprived those under her care of proper treatment and facilities in order to keep up her "humble" image, she praised dictators, was a friend of the rich, openly stated that helping people for their sake is meaningless and refused to give back stolen money.

    A "little" bad indeed..and for what good, exactly?

    And so what if The Babble says you can do it? It says that you can kill children for speaking back. Not exactly an unsurpassed source of morale goodness..

    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    She did this. Saints are people who are nice and such. The origianl 12 are saints? They are probably better people than anyione here. Saints are better people than anyone. Even atheists say that.
    Atheists say it? Is that so? Why don't you name some and then tell me why something is true just because "atheists" say so?

    Anyway, here are a few examples of Saintly goodness:

    Saint Constantine introduced anti-Semitic legislation forbidding Jews to accept converts to Judaism. Anybody caught breaking this law was burnt at the stake.

    Saint Chrysostom was an anti-Semite.

    Saint Aquinas thought that we should kill non-Christians, but Saint Augustine thought that torture would be sufficient.
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    I don't get how people are saying its irrelevant and she should be a saint anyway.

    Is this because Saints are all a little bit twisted ergo she fits in quite nicely.... hmph okay yeah I guess so if that is the logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    I don't get how people are saying its irrelevant and she should be a saint anyway.

    Is this because Saints are all a little bit twisted ergo she fits in quite nicely.... hmph okay yeah I guess so if that is the logic.
    Well, one of them was a Viking warlord with 800 wives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    I don't get how people are saying its irrelevant and she should be a saint anyway.

    Is this because Saints are all a little bit twisted ergo she fits in quite nicely.... hmph okay yeah I guess so if that is the logic.

    She did an enormus amount of service to the church and on a miraculous scale. Thus her beatification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playfishpaste View Post
    She did an enormus amount of service to the church and on a miraculous scale. Thus her beatification.
    Hard work =/= miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Hard work =/= miracle.
    The two often concur with each other. It's politics, much like presidential elections. It is likely the healing of the tumor would not have been recognized had mother teresa not done any service for the church at all other then that. The "miracle" itself is merely the icing on the cake to get to the next step in the process. Sainthood isn't just handed out to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playfishpaste View Post
    The two often concur with each other. It's politics, much like presidential elections. It is likely the healing of the tumor would not have been recognized had mother teresa not done any service for the church at all other then that. The "miracle" itself is merely the icing on the cake to get to the next step in the process. Sainthood isn't just handed out to people.
    Recognition is not miracle either, unless of course we start to assume an interpretationist outlook. Then to the joy of any non-religious person, nothing is really a miracle. Just like nothing is really a crime, a form of mental illness, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playfishpaste View Post
    The two often concur with each other. It's politics, much like presidential elections. It is likely the healing of the tumor would not have been recognized had mother teresa not done any service for the church at all other then that. The "miracle" itself is merely the icing on the cake to get to the next step in the process. Sainthood isn't just handed out to people.
    I think it's a miracle when you don't have to work hard, nut maybe that's just me

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    "She and her fellow nuns gathered dying people off the streets of Calcutta and brought them to this home to care for them during the days before they died. Mother Teresa's first orphanage was started in 1953, while in 1957 she and her Missionaries of Charity began working with lepers. In the years following, her homes (she called them "tabernacles") have been established in hundreds of locations in the world"



    That is the good. That is fact.
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    She would have fit in very nicely as a character in Sword of Truth series on the side of the Imperial Order She gets far too much credit and adoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    "She and her fellow nuns gathered dying people off the streets of Calcutta and brought them to this home to care for them during the days before they died. Mother Teresa's first orphanage was started in 1953, while in 1957 she and her Missionaries of Charity began working with lepers. In the years following, her homes (she called them "tabernacles") have been established in hundreds of locations in the world"



    That is the good. That is fact.
    I know that's fact. Why don't you go into details on those things? She refused to take a dying child to a hospital to receive proper treatment from a minor infection that had severely worsened, because doing so would mean she would have to do the same for everyone else. The child died. She tried to alleviate the pain of her patients/victims with aspirin, which was horribly ineffective. They didn't sterilize their equipment because it was "pointless". She was pro-suffering, as she said that suffering brought people closer to God. She openly stated that the point was not to improve their lives, but to bring them closer to God.

    There's nothing humanitarian about it. Period.
    'If there is an ultimate meaning to existence, as I believe is the case, the answer is to be found within nature, not beyond it. The universe might indeed be a fix, but if so, it has fixed itself.' - Paul Davies, the guy that religious apologists always take out of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pericles_plato View Post
    "She and her fellow nuns gathered dying people off the streets of Calcutta and brought them to this home to care for them during the days before they died. Mother Teresa's first orphanage was started in 1953, while in 1957 she and her Missionaries of Charity began working with lepers. In the years following, her homes (she called them "tabernacles") have been established in hundreds of locations in the world"



    That is the good. That is fact.
    Yes isn't it nice of Mother Teresa to take dying people off the streets of Calcutta, with illnesses that are comepletly cureable with the most basic of medicines, and watch them die as you deny them life saving anti-biotics, because it's doesn't matter anymore, they are about to meet Jesus.

    Her organisation recieved millions of dollars world wide by doners who thought they were helping people, when in fact that money was either payed to create religion institutions, or put away in a bank because it wasn't neccessary to help to dying. She surrounded herself with suffering, when human beings could have lived, could have devoted their life to Christianity, but instead they died - and in horrible conditions to.

    Have you seen her base in Calcutta? The beds are matresses on a concrete floor, the equipment isn't sterilized, it's overcrowded, it's basically a morgue for the living. There is a reason why I correctly called her a Monster. A monster is something inhumane, something that has no compassion, no empathy, or something all together evil. In this case, blind faith and fanaticalism. Mother Teresa is in the same category as Josef Mengele, Shiro Ishii, and Jack the Ripper. All monsters in their own regard. All psycopaths, and that includes Mother T.

    She didn't help anybody but herself and GOD.
    And that is a fact.

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