British *police* in water boarding scandal...

**danzig** · June 10, 2009, 06:26 AM

Well since usually a rush to post these things (when they involve a particular country *cough*) figure I put this out there.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6466430.ece

The alarming part here is it was evidently done on crimes not involving terrorism but things like crimes involving weed

Obviously its being investigated and shouldnt jump to too much of a conclusion...yet but pretty sad state of affairs.

**Visna** · June 10, 2009, 06:57 AM

I guess it's expected. It's what happens when certain "enhanced interrogation techniques" become portrayed as acceptable.

**Erik** · June 10, 2009, 07:09 AM

The

man. The

.

That said, it seems the authorities are dealing with this in a proper way: Make sure it can't happen again, investigate what exactly happened, and possibly prosecute anyone who crossed the line.

**Каие** · June 10, 2009, 07:11 AM

I was under the impression SOCA, and not Scotland Yard, dealt with the drugs trade. Although I still can't see the sense in this, Scotland Yard are your average police, not special forces of any kind. I'm really curious to see how this pans out and why they did what they did, if they did.

**~~The Devil's Sergeant~~** · June 10, 2009, 07:12 AM

I like how the article calls waterboarding a CIA technique, as though it invented the method that predates the CIA existance by hundreds of years.

But good for the police, I have long thought British people needed it, if for no other reason than to improve their hygiene.

**Visna** · June 10, 2009, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant

I like how the article calls waterboarding a CIA technique, as though it invented the method that predates the CIA existance by hundreds of years.

Yeah, that's a bit silly. You can't go wrong with techniques perfected by Catholics.

Originally Posted by The Devil's Sergeant

But good for the police, I have long thought British people needed it, if for no other reason than to improve their hygiene.

Oh you mean like those naked handcuffed Iraqis who had their sexlife improved in Abu Ghraib?

**~~The Devil's Sergeant~~** · June 10, 2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Visna

Oh you mean like those naked handcuffed Iraqis who had their sexlife improved in Abu Ghraib?

Variety is the spice of life.

**Big Pacha** · June 10, 2009, 08:23 AM

Sorry to break the flood, but - correct me if mistaken - the British police has a long experience of torture (yes, I call it for what It is) with IRA militants and all who bother the Kingdom right? Same in France (with Algerians) and many eiuropean democracies btw.

**bomberboy** · June 10, 2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Big Pacha

Sorry to break the flood, but - correct me if mistaken - the British police has a long experience of torture (yes, I call it for what It is) with IRA militants and all who bother the Kingdom right? Same in France (with Algerians) and many eiuropean democracies btw.

They also tortured anyone who was suspect English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish but that was years ago what these did was unaccecptable.

P.S why is there a surge in threads about the UK its stupid.

**Heinz Guderian** · June 10, 2009, 02:11 PM

I hope these cops go to jail for a very very long time.

**Hookah Smoking Caterpiller** · June 10, 2009, 11:35 AM

Don't worry guys, i'm sure the IPCC will investigate this and prosecute those responsible.

Oh wait...

**justicar5** · June 10, 2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Modern Life is Rubbish

Don't worry guys, i'm sure the IPCC will investigate this and prosecute those responsible.

Oh wait...

to true unfortunetly.

**Visna** · June 10, 2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Modern Life is Rubbish

Don't worry guys, i'm sure the IPCC will investigate this and prosecute those responsible.

Oh wait...

Ah you have that system too? Like cops investigating their friends and collegues to see if any mistakes have been made?

**B5C** · June 10, 2009, 02:19 PM

Remember folks in the US water boarding is legal and I bet it is in the UK.

**Big Pacha** · June 11, 2009, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by B5C

Remember folks in the US water boarding is legal and I bet it is in the UK.

Not anymore thanks to Obama. Waterboarding is torture even if they invented PC terms to justify it.

**Yorkshireman** · June 10, 2009, 02:23 PM

I blame the influence of Gene Hunt.

**JP226** · June 10, 2009, 02:41 PM

I blame the US. If they weren't water boarding in the first place then Scotland Yard wouldn't know how to water board.

**sephodwyrm** · June 10, 2009, 02:43 PM

I predicted this to happen anyway. Allowing the use of such techniques on supposed terrorists will open the way to similar applications to suspected criminals in civil cases.

**JP226** · June 10, 2009, 02:46 PM

I predicted this to happen anyway. Allowing the use of such techniques on supposed terrorists will open the way to similar applications to suspected criminals in civil cases.

Exactly

**Yorkshireman** · June 10, 2009, 02:50 PM

Seems they did'nt 'waterboard' the suspect CIA style, but used a more British form of abuse, sticking his head down the toilet. (They later flicked his bare arse with a wet towel)

A man has claimed his head was put down a toilet which was then repeatedly flushed during a drugs raid last year.

BBC crime correspondent Ben Ando said the allegations did not concern "waterboarding" techniques - previously used by the CIA to interrogate terrorism suspects - as some newspapers had earlier claimed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8092417.stm

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