Muslim Demographics

[mandalore9]

I just wanted to share this to those who have not seen this yet.

[Aonghus G. Friedhold]

Dear god Christians piss me off sometimes.

[wilpuri]

Dear god Christians piss me off sometimes.

You don't need to be Christian to oppose the flooding of Europe with non-Europeans.

[Gromovnik]

Most of these statistics are true, but the video is somewhat ammateurish.

[Phalanx300]

Indeed, muslims aren't exactly my problem, its the massive numbers of immigrants. But if they alone can cause this I rather not think what happens when combined with other immigrant groups.

[Big Pacha]

The Muslim Agenda of Invasion! Boooooh!

This video is total BS and the numbers are FAKE. I live in France and the fertility rate is 2.25 which makes a healthy population. This rate is for everybody, not only us muslims or immigrants or the "darkies"Wilpuri is afraid of.

You don't need to be Christian to oppose the flooding of Europe with non-Europeans.

ô Brave Crusader, take ye Holy Sword and slay all these dark-skinned infidels! Not even good whites! God Wishes It!
If that wasn't a racist statement, then I don't know what is.

BTW Phalanx300, decimated Greece was repopulated by Slav immigration during early medieval times.

This video is just another racist hoax / immigrants bashing on the Net, typical of the "nationalist" propaganda of BNP, FN and other neo-fascist group. The "muslim threat" has replaced the other ones, now that the Reds are out, the Jews can't be bashed as in the past and other minorities have blended in already. Thanks to the Gypsies in eastern europe, they still fill well hatred so muslims are not the N°1 scapegoats there. Who remembers that gypsies were exterminated during WWII? Who cares? Hungary alone has just put 8 members of gypsy-hating party in EU Parliament. Sieg Heil...

I found this video very funny, like I find "funny" the satanist messages, neo-nazi attempts to "justify" hatred, north korean propaganda (watch their website- it's hilarious) or that kind of e-crap. The problem is, many people take all that seriously. Like some of you BTW. I can't believe how intelligent people can fall for such BS, except the fact that It comforts their irrational fears of the "others". What a joke...

I love the "menacing" conclusion/solution: "now It's time for action..."

Like what? Because besides massive deportations, extermination, death camps for "final solution" & all, I don't see what kind of "action" they could take to "stop the invasion". Or maybe some anti-muslim pogroms will do, as always. Crystal Night, all over again...
Some people never change, they just change their scapegoats.

From a Member of the "Invading Muslim Hordes who threatens our civilization & culture" a.k.a. a son of immigrants who loves his country too.

PS: I thought that exchanges made cultures increase &get richer. Closed culture = dead culture. A basic anthropological scientific rule. Read books.

[rusina]

ô Brave Crusader, take ye Holy Sword and slay all these dark-skinned infidels! Not even good whites! God Wishes It!
If that wasn't a racist statement, then I don't know what is.

Immigrants are race?

[The Count(er)]

Immigrants are race?

Where'd that line mention immigrants?

[rusina]

Where'd that line mention immigrants?

You don't need to be Christian to oppose the flooding of Europe with non-Europeans.

Tô Brave Crusader, take ye Holy Sword and slay all these dark-skinned infidels! Not even good whites! God Wishes It!
If that wasn't a racist statement, then I don't know what is.

[The Count(er)]

<Rusinia's post>

Well I must of missed it because you didn't actually quote Wilpuri and instead just Big Pacha's response.

[Big Pacha]

Immigrants are race?

Hahaha, funny barb playing with words.

Of course not.
They're just the targets of racial prejudices because of their foreign origins, especially (but not necessarily) if they come from remote countries of another continent and then have a different racial background and/or cultural or religious.

Please see posts above about "non-europeans" and all. Anyway, this video is an Internet hoax to scare people and encourages to "act" against muslims. For what It means exactly...
Please don't deport me!

A quick google shows this to be incorrect.

Please be my guest: Really! It was 2.25 not so long ago and It's been more than 2.0 for decades. France has gained 10 million people in 20 years and this is not 10 million immigrants. Oh, and I don't refer to Google but to the french ministry of health, so, about your "source"... hem.. Numbers may have changed since 2008 but It's certainly not below 2.0.

How incredibly uninformed do you have to be to make that statement? First off, there are 3 elected members of Jobbik, a far right party. Second of all, they are not racist, they simply urge harsher criminal policy, and the social roots of the most crimes in Hungary lie in the gypsy population living like animals in the countryside, this is not racism, this is a statistical fact, if you are not aware of it, read up on the subject. Third of all, how incredibly stupid do you have to be trying to mix up the gypsy holocaust with a harsher criminal policy? I love you guys who shout Nazi everytime someone wants to pursue a right wing policy. Just to let you know, the biggest Hungarian party in the European Parliament (with 16 seats), the centre-right conservative FIDESZ already has a MEP of romani origins. She's called Járóka Lívia, and represents the interests of the gypsy population since 2004. And her biggest problem is gypsy notabilities, local authorities etc. are not willing to cooperate with her.

You seem very angry about that detail, why? Did I shock you by defending a bit the Gypsies who are eastern europe's scapegoats.
Apparently you hate them too so I will let you be angry. BTW I am "so misinformed" by the ugly, lying and deceiful french press, notably the horrible newspaper Le Monde who said 8 members instead of 3 this morning, which is such a terrible and unforgivable mistake.
Seriously, thank you for the interesting facts you brought. If I provoked you enough to discuss the Tzigan/Rom issue then I did well by being mistaken. A little bit, not so much
But please, on one point, give me a break with criminality: yes, It's true, but why? Because they're maintained in underdevelopment, misery, terrible living conditions etc. Blaming then is as stupid as blaming all African-Americans for their very high crime rates, without observing the causes of the phenomenom.

Since when you people will understand that social (or antisocial) behavior are not written in genes, or not racially oriented?

[Phier]

Please be my guest: Really! It was 2.25 not so long ago and It's been more than 2.0 for decades. France has gained 10 million people in 20 years and this is not 20 million immigrants. Oh, and I don't refer to Google but to the french ministry of health. Numbers may have changed but It's certainly not below 2.0.

Frances birthrate last year was 2.02, they have been trying to bring it for several years up since EU is losing population. Since this is the first time france has had this many babies since 1981, I think your 20 year figure isn't exactly straight forward. France is still quite old with only 1/4th of the population below 25. They also don't separate their birthrate between races, thats the total birth rate.

Still I'm not one worried about a tide of immigrant babies in Europe, its a far bigger issue in the US.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

You seem very angry about that detail, why? Did I shock you by defending a bit the Gypsies who are eastern europe's scapegoats.
Apparently you hate them too so I will let you be angry. BTW I am "so misinformed" by the ugly, lying and deceiful french press, notably the horrible newspaper Le Monde who said 8 members instead of 3 this morning, which is such a terrible and unforgivable mistake.
Seriously, thank you for the interesting facts you brought. If I provoked you enough to discuss the Tzigan/Rom issue then I did well by being mistaken. A little bit, not so much
But please, on one point, give me a break with criminality: yes, It's true, but why? Because they're maintained in underdevelopment, misery, terrible living conditions etc. Blaming then is as stupid as blaming all African-Americans for their very high crime rates, without observing the causes of the phenomenom.

Since when you people will understand that social (or antisocial) behavior are not written in genes, or not racially oriented?

You just showed again that you know nothing about the facts at hand, so please come and live here for a few years, or at least read up on the subject, otherwise stay out of this debate with your racist comments about Eastern Europeans, kthxbye.

[Big Pacha]

You just showed again that you know nothing about the facts at hand, so please come and live here for a few years, or at least read up on the subject, otherwise stay out of this debate with your racist comments about Eastern Europeans, kthxbye.

Hey calm down please with that bold attitude.

You're making this up because I mixed 2 numbers from a newspaper. That's what you call knowing nothing? I am sorry if I said 8 instead of 3, but come on, this exxageration is ridiculous.

Please quote & explain what "racist comments" I supposedly made in this thread or in any threads btw.
I said gypsies were badly discriminated in Eastern Europe (also the West now) Is that racist? IMO that is exactly the inverse + that's a fact ababy, like it or not. Now, I don't know the whys, whens and hows, because yes I don't live in Hungary for example.

Being an admin here doesn't give you the right to personnally attack people like that but I won't fall in the trap of responding in the same heinous tone. I have nothing against you except the arrogant aggressiveness of your last post that I receive as a personal attack. PM me if you want ,I'm done with that OT thread

Oh, and insults in cyrillic are easily transcriptible, thanks to the Net

And everybody who took that video seriously is REALLY ignorant

[Phier]

The Muslim Agenda of Invasion! Boooooh!

This video is total BS and the numbers are FAKE. I live in France and the fertility rate is 2.25 which makes a healthy population. This rate is for everybody, not only us muslims or immigrants or the "darkies"Wilpuri is afraid of.

A quick google shows this to be incorrect.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

This video is just another racist hoax / immigrants bashing on the Net, typical of the "nationalist" propaganda of BNP, FN and other neo-fascist group. The "muslim threat" has replaced the other ones, now that the Reds are out, the Jews can't be bashed as in the past and other minorities have blended in already. Thanks to the Gypsies in eastern europe, they still fill well hatred so muslims are not the N°1 scapegoats there. Who remembers that gypsies were exterminated during WWII? Who cares? Hungary alone has just put 8 members of gypsy-hating party in EU Parliament. Sieg Heil...

How incredibly uninformed do you have to be to make that statement? First off, there are 3 elected members of Jobbik, a far right party. Second of all, they are not racist, they simply urge harsher criminal policy, and the social roots of the most crimes in Hungary lie in the gypsy population living like animals in the countryside, this is not racism, this is a statistical fact, if you are not aware of it, read up on the subject. Third of all, how incredibly stupid do you have to be trying to mix up the gypsy holocaust with a harsher criminal policy? I love you guys who shout Nazi everytime someone wants to pursue a right wing policy. Just to let you know, the biggest Hungarian party in the European Parliament (with 16 seats), the centre-right conservative FIDESZ already has a MEP of romani origins. She's called Járóka Lívia, and represents the interests of the gypsy population since 2004. And her biggest problem is gypsy notabilities, local authorities etc. are not willing to cooperate with her.

[Phalanx300]

BTW Phalanx300, decimated Greece was repopulated by Slav immigration during early medieval times.

Actually, DNA tests have prooved that the Greeks are still in the 90% of the same Greeks. That probably being near 100% in unconquered places like Mori.

PS: I thought that exchanges made cultures increase &get richer. Closed culture = dead culture. A basic anthropological scientific rule. Read books. [

The opposite actually, cultural exchanges make the original culture disappear. Multiculturism = dead culture.

[Fiyenyaa]

The opposite actually, cultural exchanges make the original culture disappear. Multiculturism = dead culture.

Any life-saving, popular, useful, or entertaining innovation should belong only to the culture which came up with it - otherwise other cultures shall die.

Humanity's progress is essentially a result of cultural interaction resulting the in the spread of ideas.

[Каие]

The opposite actually, cultural exchanges make the original culture disappear. Multiculturism = dead culture.

History proves you completely wrong. Not that you know history of course.

[Phalanx300]

History proves you completely wrong. Not that you know history of course.

And you do with with calling all Dutch Flemings? Flanders is just another province of the entire Netherlands, in fact political Flanders consists of Flanders, South of Braband and western Limburg. We Dutch own a piece of Flanders, Braband and Limburg. And those people feel completely Dutch. We Dutch are people from different provinces combined.

And I'm proven wrong? Current society prooves you wrong, here in the Netherlands at least were the point isn't to integrate.