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    So according to the Holy Bible, Eve was created only after Adam got "lonely". God created the first woman only to pleasure man. The Bible then goes on to describe a myriad of mistreatment and abuse of women, by men. So this brings me to my question: is God a sexist?
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    Yeeeeaaahhh pretty much, the old testament at least. The bible is pretty sexist, but hey, it was written by MEN, during a time when woman were property, not really beings.

    As for outside of the bible, if you belive in a god, i highly doubt, that he in all his wisodm, and years, is a sexist. I don't belive god has such petty feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippolord View Post


    Yeeeeaaahhh pretty much, the old testament at least. The bible is pretty sexist, but hey, it was written by MEN, during a time when woman were property, not really beings.

    As for outside of the bible, if you belive in a god, i highly doubt, that he in all his wisodm, and years, is a sexist. I don't belive god has such petty feelings.
    Assuming you are of the Christian faith, did you not just defeat yourself with that statement?


    Yeeeeaaahhh pretty much, the old testament at least. The bible is pretty sexist, but hey, it was written by MEN, during a time when woman were property, not really beings.
    The Bible, the word of God as spoken to the men of the world through his prophet Jesus. It is taken as the only single source of the word in which man must live by or be cast into the eternal fires of Hell. Written in a time in which women were treated as property in most of the world, but they still are around the world and not just in the middle east. So dare I say the American man that just uses women as items is in the right according to God.

    As for outside of the bible, if you belive in a god, i highly doubt, that he in all his wisodm, and years, is a sexist. I don't belive god has such petty feelings.
    So now you doubt the word of God as it was written. In my understanding of faith, is not the word of God the first article in which faith is built? I have not seen another prophet come about recently and say, "Oh well God saw that treating women like mere property was a bad thing, so um... Dont do it, kk thanks, crucify me now."

    So what is there to discuss? If you are not a sexist, you are not fulfilling the word of God and therefore you are committing sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black-dragon View Post
    So according to the Holy Bible, Eve was created only after Adam got "lonely". God created the first woman only to pleasure man. The Bible then goes on to describe a myriad of mistreatment and abuse of women, by men. So this brings me to my question: is God a sexist?
    God created Eve last because He wanted Adam to realize how much he needed her, and because He wanted to provide an object lesson to future generations on the universal human need for companionship. There was nothing sexist about it; in fact, God arranged the whole situation to emphasize Eve's value.

    You're right that the Bible recounts many abuses of women by men. But the Bible, among other things, is a work of history; and just because it recounts an event does not mean that God or a true Christian approves of it.
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    Remember the Old Testament prayer (I forget the exact location, but I think it was in Psalms)?

    "Thank God I was not born a gentile, a pig, or a woman."

    Charming stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiyenyaa View Post
    Remember the Old Testament prayer (I forget the exact location, but I think it was in Psalms)?

    "Thank God I was not born a gentile, a pig, or a woman."

    Charming stuff.
    I can tell you for sure that that is nowhere in the Bible.

    It actually comes from a Jewish prayerbook.
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    but was it accepted as inspiration from god for a duration of time prior to new testament times therefore nullifying your likely argument that the reason for your faith in the bible as it is, is that god allowed it to be that way for such a long period of time ?
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    although it is true that christian belief contains a lot of awfully convenient, "oh but i have a shield that reflects bullets". strictly speaking although that does a great deal for arguing against the probability, it does nothing for arguing against the potential existence of the belief given other prior non-mentioned arguments. if your trying to create a reasonable argument aimed at christians your going to have to give their beliefs the benefit of the doubt and find stricter reasons and better uses of reason to highlight the more inherent problems. ultimately the "god is sexist" angle is a bit silly and won't help people understand more fundamental flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    I can tell you for sure that that is nowhere in the Bible.

    It actually comes from a Jewish prayerbook.
    Ah, my mistake.

    It is still (supposedly) the same God though, as others have pointed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsome pete View Post
    but was it accepted as inspiration from god for a duration of time prior to new testament times therefore nullifying your likely argument that the reason for your faith in the bible as it is, is that god allowed it to be that way for such a long period of time ?
    God often allows people to believe false things about Him. If He didn't, there would be only one world religion.

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    Ah, my mistake.

    It is still (supposedly) the same God though, as others have pointed out.
    Maybe, but not everyone understands Him equally well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    God often allows people to believe false things about Him. If He didn't, there would be only one world religion.
    Well obviously what you know about him isn't as true as what I know about him. It's obvious that this guy was a hardcore, dominant, sexist alpha male that clearly said that paradise would be free from women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    God often allows people to believe false things about Him. If He didn't, there would be only one world religion.
    Seems a bit self-defeating, doesn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Maybe, but not everyone understands Him equally well.
    He should really get his finger out and make himself more well-understood then, eh? All these varying interpretations seem to be causing more than a few problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    I can tell you for sure that that is nowhere in the Bible.

    It actually comes from a Jewish prayerbook.
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    God does not exist, so how can he (or that what's called god) be a sexist. Nonsense title anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    God does not exist, so how can he (or that what's called god) be a sexist. Nonsense title anyway.
    So why did you come in here to post that comment? Kinda trolly to me.

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    No but the people who made him up at the time were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black-dragon View Post
    is God a sexist?
    No, the ancient male writers from patriarchal societies were sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pøntifex View Post
    No, the ancient male writers from patriarchal societies were sexist.
    Thus the God they created was sexist.

    Thus god is sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcry View Post
    Thus the God they created was sexist.

    Thus god is sexist.
    I would prefer to say god "is" sexist, because without the quotation marks, it implies that god actually is, is inferring it exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black-dragon View Post
    So according to the Holy Bible, Eve was created only after Adam got "lonely". God created the first woman only to pleasure man. The Bible then goes on to describe a myriad of mistreatment and abuse of women, by men. So this brings me to my question: is God a sexist?
    When we read the Bible, we will gain from it a great deal if we do so as persuers of knowledge, and lose a great deal if we do so as dismissers of value. This is true, of course, of every text. The story of the first few chapeters of genesis expresses in a symbolic way the predicament of humans that sets the question for the answer that is given in the rest of the text. To read as as a series of historical events would be to strip it of its power to speak to us, and would be to make the same mistake as those who seek to prove the that god exists as the nose on one's face exists, i.e. to demote the divine to a thing amonst other things, thereby losing the dimension of depth that is the essence of religion.

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