EUIII - How is reputation given?

**Rugler** · June 08, 2009, 04:43 PM

Hello

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I have been playing EUIII for sometime now and I just realized that I have no idea how reputation is given in the game and wondered if anyone could explain it to me.

I hope its okay that I ask this.

**Dayman** · June 08, 2009, 04:47 PM

Reputation is a measure of your standing, much like prestige it effects your relations with other nations. While prestige measures achievements and culture, reputation measures warmongering and dirty tactics. Ideally you want your reputation to be 0, which means your nation has no marks against it. As you take territory, annex nations, and force vassalize, your reputation goes up, and your monthly relations with other nations go down. Pass your reputation limit, and be prepared for what is known as "badboy wars": basically the world v. you, sort of like how everyone ganged up on Napoleon in the early 19th century. Over time it goes down, and being Papal Controller or having a good leader will help smooth things over quicker.

**Rugler** · June 08, 2009, 04:55 PM

What if you take territory from a nation in a war that the other nation has started?? Do you gain reputation for that?

And thank you very much for your answer

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**Dayman** · June 08, 2009, 05:35 PM

What if you take territory from a nation in a war that the other nation has started?? Do you gain reputation for that?

Indeed you do. Less so if it's a core, more so if it's not, and even more if you annex a one province minor. The best way is to only take territories you have cores on, if that is not possible than take 1-2 provinces at a clip. If it is a smaller nation (3-1 provinces), just vassalize them, then diplo-annex them later for a much smaller reputation hit.

**John I Tzimisces** · June 08, 2009, 06:03 PM

Reputation, otherwise known as "badboy score", is effected by a huge number of things.

This is what the EUIII wiki has to say:

Badboy

The Badboy score (BB) is an indicator of your country's reputation. Badboy is like golf, the lower the score the better. It is basically a measure of how aggressive your country is and as your accumulate more badboy points the chances of other countries declaring war on you increases.

Badboy also affects your country in other ways. A bad reputation (i.e. high badboy) lowers your chances of success in diplomacy and trade. It is unrelated to your country's Prestige. You can be despised by everyone yet be "the greatest" nation according to prestige.

The following is a list of the actions that increase your badboy points:

* Break a truce : 4 BB
* Declare war with a casus belli : 1 BB
* Declare war without a casus belli : 2 BB
* Turbo-annexing a province you do not have a core on: 2 BB per province
* Take a province in a peace negotiation 1 BB per province
* Annex a country with a core on their capital in a peace negotiation : 3 BB
* Annex a country without a core on their capital in a peace negotiation : 6 BB
* Seize a colony : 0.1 BB for every colony level (can also be used on pagan provinces for 1 BB). Colony levels are: Population 1-100 = level 1, 101-200 = level 2, etc. This means a colony with 901+ population is worth 1 full BB point. Also, any at 901+ (or 900 exactly?) will not get your Culture, so think twice before seizing them.
* Burn a colony : 0.1 BB for every colony level
* Diplo-annex a country : 1 BB per province
* Claim another country's throne : 1 BB
* Force-annex a pagan country without a core on its capital : 5 BB (flat value, regardless of the number of provinces you take - see Note below)
* Force-annex a pagan country with a core on its capital : 2 BB
* Your spy caught trying to assassinate advisor : 1 BB
* Your spy caught trying to sabotage reputation : 1 BB
* Your spy caught trying to counterfeit currency : 1 BB
* Your spy caught trying to sow discontent : 1 BB
* Your spy caught trying to fabricate Claims : 1 BB

These actions have no effect:

* Turbo-annexing a province you have a core on : 0 BB per province
* Inherit a country : 0 BB per province
* Force-vassalise a country in a peace negotiation : 0 BB
* Declare war on a pagan country which has no allies when you have a casus belli : 0 BB
* When a rebel province joins your nation : 0 BB per province
* Having war declared on you, including responding to a Call To Arms from an ally in a defensive war : 0 BB

These actions decrease your badboy points:

* Release a vassal : -1 BB/province (once you have totally annexed them, putting them on the "Create Vassals" button on your Overview pane) [NB you do not get BB reduction from releasing a pagan nation]
* Be the Papal Controller : -0.25 BB/year

**hellheaven1987** · June 08, 2009, 06:24 PM

General speaking, high reputation would result you vs whole world; of course, if you are powerful enough it is better to have high reputation and let everyone comes to you.

But EUIII is not HoI2, just warn you that.

**Rugler** · June 09, 2009, 05:09 AM

Thanks for every answer

Now I understand why I have a 150 reputation..

**hellheaven1987** · June 09, 2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rugler

Thanks for every answer

Now I understand why I have a 150 reputation..

Damned!! You should already got into a total war now...

**Dayman** · June 09, 2009, 02:32 PM

Holy

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**vizi** · June 09, 2009, 02:37 PM

Wowza!

**Rugler** · June 10, 2009, 02:13 PM

Well.. The following countries has declared war upon me: England, Burgundy, France, Castille, Venice, Austria, Poland, Teutonic order, Lithuanina, Ottoman empire, Najd, Yemen, Candar, Hungary, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Novgorod, Muscovy, Tver, Urbino, Aragon and Portugal.. So I belive that has already happend..

**hellheaven1987** · June 10, 2009, 08:17 PM

Just curious, may I ask what country you are playing??

I want to estimate your surviving rate, that is all.

**Rugler** · June 11, 2009, 03:16 AM

Brunswick.... Chance of survival = 0 they totally crushed my armies....

EDIT: +more than half my territories are occupied by either rebels or invading armies.

**hellheaven1987** · June 11, 2009, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by Rugler

Brunswick.... Chance of survival = 0 they totally crushed my armies....

EDIT: +more than half my territories are occupied by either rebels or invading armies.

If you play Great Britain (which I always form fifty years after game starts) then you may have some chance...

**Dr. Oza** · June 21, 2009, 02:41 AM

this happened to me as brandenburg, i had all of northern germany and i attacked austria to take prussia, and even tho i was hre, all the states attacked me and evne the ottomans, timurids, and algerians joined in, so in addition to the

storm of europeans i had taking my lands, there was also a huge stack of ottomans

**hellheaven1987** · June 21, 2009, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Berke Khan

this happened to me as brandenburg, i had all of northern germany and i attacked austria to take prussia, and even tho i was hre, all the states attacked me and evne the ottomans, timurids, and algerians joined in, so in addition to the

storm of europeans i had taking my lands, there was also a huge stack of ottomans

Not surprise right??