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    Is what's good for the corporation good for the country?

    Now that we have multi-national and global corporations, does that stand true today?

    Can the government give benefits to companies who hire within the country, and help advance the country rather than let them over good people by outsourcing?

    What are your thoughts?
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    The tax code shouldn't be used to influence social behavior, including the social behavior of corporations.

    Besides, taxing business is an inefficient way to get revenue. Overall sales tax is the best form of taxation.
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    Can the government give benefits to companies who hire within the country, and help advance the country rather than let them over good people by outsourcing?
    Would you rather people over by higher prices and stagnant wages?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    Would you rather people over by higher prices and stagnant wages?
    Wages are already stagnating, there's a high cost to low prices, and good countrymen are being bilked from a job in favor of profits.

    The statement of what's good for a company being good for the country doesn't hold anymore.
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    Reading this thread im instantly reminded of catch-22 and milo minderbinder (isnt that mandatory reading in most classes? Ive assume some of you have read it anyway)

    But i would say no, first of all if the government gives benefits to companies that pay disproportionatly high wages to local workers and pay dear for local parts it essentially cheats the market by benefiting "perpetually" the least efficient people in the system, Because you have to buy local forever to get benefits , it also creates a dependency thats usually very bad, The company keeps getting benefits or it moves its buissness elsewhere, then the company can keep demanding a lot because the government is afraid many workers will get fired if they dont give in to demands. But it also leads to local unions that can demand whatever they want from the company, It leads to companies that cost several times what theyre worth, and taxpayers could just hire about as many people with the money to sit around and do nothing but dig holes, and it would still be more efficient and more cheap.

    Now if you eman should government hand out awards to companys that behave in an examplary manner by voluntarily buying locally and still making a profit without government help, well thats all well and good but companies should be encouraged to do what is the most profitable (and indeed, are legally in fact bound to) for their shareholders and shouldnt be encouraged to lose profit by buying local goods as opposed to foreign ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post

    Can the government give benefits to companies who hire within the country, and help advance the country rather than let them over good people by outsourcing?

    What are your thoughts?
    I think I read something like this on one of those scanned BNP pamphlets.

    The issue I see it, is that if your prices are higher it needs to be offset somewhere or you will fail. Long run is the government either ends up paying that difference, screwing everyone in the country, or you get protectionism, screwing everyone in the country.
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    Wages are already stagnating, there's a high cost to low prices, and good countrymen are being bilked from a job in favor of profits.

    The statement of what's good for a company being good for the country doesn't hold anymore.
    How? Wages are on the increase, check up on FRED (fed data) and look at inflation adjusted numbers just over the past ten years. As far as your other point is concerned, let's hear a little more about what you mean actually. Trickle down? Progrowth versus equity? What exactly.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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