Sub-mod: Campaign for BoA 2.0! (Outdated, see Download Thread)

[Helloween]

@ rdec:

This pack should include the fix, along with several updates for the mod:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=282715

@ Hayami Kagemusha:

I was a bit ill for the last few days, should resume working on the textures soon... No ideas for the other captains yet; but rebels should be quick, just a colour swap — can you list all the required rebel units? If you gave them the captain, what model does he use?

[rdec]

Thank you very much Helloween for your prompt reply!

[Hayami Kagemusha]

Ah right, sorry. Rebels use/need:
Samurai to Katana
Yari Samurai
Samurai Foot Archers
Ashigaru Teppo
Yari Cavalry
Tachi Cavalry
Early Cavalry Archers (Uses the current Cav Archer skin)
Sohei, but I am going to replace those with ikko ikki mercenaries later
Other mercs (any merc unit gets the merc skin regardless of the faction they belong to)
Elite Katana (For rebel officer's)
Standard Bearers
Hojo Daimyo (For both general and captain currently)

Basic color scheme for rebels should be lighter grey armor, red clothing, either purple or green trim, your call just be consistant.
Basic color scheme for mercs will be the same lighter grey armor, merc green clothing, red/brown trim.

Seems everyone is falling sick these days, sorry to hear it though. Hope you're better

[Helloween]

Just got off the medicines, now will start to recover... Everyone is usually sick in July (or March), but I managed to hold off until the exact first day of August.

Want to get to a next release, so I'll be able to change things "on the way", in the campaign.

[Hayami Kagemusha]

Well I post when things are going good, so I suppose I should also keep you updated when they aren't, or rather not going at all. I hope to get back to work late this week, but just too much going on atm to even think about sitting down and working on a script file. I'll admit I'm a little down atm, suddenly started thinking that once I finish this update this may be my last. There are still a lot of things I would like to change/add but life keeps getting in the way and I don't know how much more time I can devote to it.

Anyhow, regardless of how things go I will at least finish the current update, with only a few minor things still to address. Maybe August will get better late in the month... it is my favorite time of year afterall

[Helloween]

Well I post when things are going good, so I suppose I should also keep you updated when they aren't, or rather not going at all. I hope to get back to work late this week, but just too much going on atm to even think about sitting down and working on a script file.

Replace the word "script" with the word "texture", and it will be how I am feeling now... It's just too much work and not enough help and/or feedback. People do generally tire more from the work that goes without visible results, quickly being burned out... I suppose actually playing some games should set the brains straight.

Hilarious thing here... Jackson RR24, at $1100, or around $1200 with case (you can click on the link to see the prices on Google), is quite a decent purchase — it's got all the features I need "out-of-the-box", looks nice, and has Japanese craftsmanship to boot (compared to cheaper Chinese, Korean or Indonesian-made guitars). I thought I could save just a little bit more and get it, instead of the B.C. Rich I had in mind before, yet the thing is...

I notice the white beauty at the local shop and ask the sales guy there about the price... And he tells me (with a proud look) that, as it is in a "slightly used" (read: "not comletely ruined") state, it'll go for... $1700. Bingo! A used guitar half the price up! Not believing my ears, I check their website — and yeah, they got used $1100 axe priced at $1700. Honestly, I don't know — am I supposed to laugh, or to cry about it?



P.S.

The other shops either do not deal with Jackson Guitars, or do not have any real stuff, only "beginner" buckets of bolts made of plywood somewhere in Honduras... If Rock is Dead elsewhere, here it has completely decayed.

[inquisitor]

...RL sucks sometimes.
Its a shame that my modding skills aren't that good.....

[Helloween]

...RL sucks sometimes.
Its a shame that my modding skills aren't that good.....

The problem is not with life, but with idiots, who either want too much for not much, or agree to overpay. We have a major case of "Gibson" syndrome here — when guys buy $2000+ guitars just to show off the "Made in U.S.A." label on the heastock. I just thought charging extra $600 for a used (far from being vintage) instrument is too much, even for our shopkeepers... It's possibly someone selling his own axe, assuming an unbeatable position: since it's on a shelf he's got a reason not to play it, yet with such a steep price he will never sell it. A win-win (more like lose-lose) situation.

As to "modding skills": they are a myth. You just do what you can, then the "skills" start to develop... Very similar to "musical talent" or "good ear", which are actually the qualities that are developed during practice and trial-and-error, as opossed to magically appearing out-of-nowhere (or being present at the time of birth) as most people think.

Initially, I supposed that some physycal qualities actually give people the edge in what they do, like Shaquille O'Neal's height, Jimi Hendrix's finger length... Yet, even with the level of professional sports concerned (where every kilogram and centimeter makes a difference), physycal qualities do not guarantee a success — who will say that Shaq was better than Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, despite being the larger one? By that logic, that Chinese guy (Googled him — name is Yao Ming) should be considered the best basketball player ever.

And the fingers — I was surprised to see little girls learning simple riffs at guitar faster than the dudes with huge palms... Because small fingers have better speed, agility, and, most importantly, make them strive more to do everything correctly. In fact, of the people I teached guitar to, the hardest one (after the super-insecure guy, that was already corrupted by bad teachers when I met him) had the biggest hands... Not to mention that the father of Heavy Metal, Tony Iommi, had two fingertips lost in a factory accident. Well, if that hasn't stopped him from becoming the most important figure in the world of Hard Rock (just name one thing that changed Rock music more than the advent of Metal), then what possibly can?

So, while the last thing about "talent" or "inherent skills", the physyque, is broken as almost useless, I can issue only one verdict: lazyness. When people ramble on about lack of skills with something, they can just be honest and say that they actually do not want to do it... Did I knew many things about the history of the Samurai, their swordmaking, armour, weapons, horsemanship, archery, sieges, the Ninja and the Sōhei before I began to make descriptions? No. Actually, I learned quite a lot during the process. Did I knew anything about alpha layers, icon making and game structure of M2TW when I started to mod it? No. Did any modder have "modding skills" before starting to change things around? No... Granted, there are skills that are more specialised, such as 3d-modeling or photoshopping, yet I never heard of a baby born "gifted" with a skill at computer graphic programs.

I suppose anyone who has the skills to write a post at the forum can, say, edit building and ship descriptions... Or maybe toy a bit with the descr_strat and add some agents on a map? There are also missed descriptions for Chinese, Korean and Mongol units, which, as the building descriptions, can be just copied-over from Shogun... Anyone who can play a game can do the bug-testing. Anyone who does the bug-testing can also test the balance. Anyone who plays around with RTW mods can install "Blue Lotus: Total War" and contact their team about borrowing a few more models from them. Anyone who can crop pictures in some graphic program can shift the rebel textures to more neutral colours. A lot of things to do. A lot of people watching. A lot of people downloading. Just me helping Hayami Kagemusha to actually finish anything... And the posts like "you do more and you do it faster, I will not help you and I have a reason not to" are the most demotivating of them all.

I am not speaking about you alone, it is about everyone and everywhere — people either find ways to do something, or search for reasons not to.

So — either say that you do not want even to try it, or do it. I have around 50 PM's between me and Kagemusha, which we exchanged before I had a first public post here. Why? Because being talking-yet-not-doing anything guy is not my style.

P.S.

And it's not like you, people who read this but do not comment are any better... The lack of feedback is actually worse than the hope-depriving clear posts of "I will not help".

P.P.S.

Pumpkins rule!

[inquisitor]

Hahahahahha lol

Like reading a Dr.phill book.....

Dude when you need help with text edeting stuff just name it...thats not a prob
Only moddeling and mapping are to much for me.


About Guitar players....My fav is and will be always Frederik Thorendal.Name somebody who plays like him....almost impossible.

[Reverend Scott]

Replace the word "script" with the word "texture", and it will be how I am feeling now... It's just too much work and not enough help and/or feedback. People do generally tire more from the work that goes without visible results, quickly being burned out... I suppose actually playing some games should set the brains straight.

Hilarious thing here... Jackson RR24, at $1100, or around $1200 with case (you can click on the link to see the prices on Google), is quite a decent purchase — it's got all the features I need "out-of-the-box", looks nice, and has Japanese craftsmanship to boot (compared to cheaper Chinese, Korean or Indonesian-made guitars). I thought I could save just a little bit more and get it, instead of the B.C. Rich I had in mind before, yet the thing is...

I notice the white beauty at the local shop and ask the sales guy there about the price... And he tells me (with a proud look) that, as it is in a "slightly used" (read: "not comletely ruined") state, it'll go for... $1700. Bingo! A used guitar half the price up! Not believing my ears, I check their website — and yeah, they got used $1100 axe priced at $1700. Honestly, I don't know — am I supposed to laugh, or to cry about it?



P.S.

The other shops either do not deal with Jackson Guitars, or do not have any real stuff, only "beginner" buckets of bolts made of plywood somewhere in Honduras... If Rock is Dead elsewhere, here it has completely decayed.

You can make quite a profit buying them for $1100 and selling them to the shop for $1700 .

[Helloween]

You can make quite a profit buying them for $1100 and selling them to the shop for $1700 .

Down to $1500, but the guys in the shop apparently never notice the real price.

Bought this for $750, only $50 on top of the US price:



B.C. Rich NT Beast... Came completely virginal, with tape on the screws and yet unpenetrated tremolo arm hole. A neck-through, 24 jumbo frets, original Floyd Rose bridge and all other goodies the RR24 had, except for the price tag and the pickups. The Beast has two of them, both being quite crappy — so will require an upgrade in the near future. Action is slightly higher and the neck profile is less slim, yet this is exactly the most comfortable guitar I ever played... As a bonus it has a tone control, while the Jackson only had a volume knob.

The wood is also different, but I figured that it is for the better (for me) — after playing several guitars with similar configuration yet different wood and comparing the sound.

After buying the guitar I am feeling much better, and have enough spirit to continue to work on the mod, especially since I am currently waiting for my amp to come back from the repair and kicking everyone's arse as Cammy in new Street Fighter while drinking wine.

@ inquisitor:

If you want to help and don't know which text file to start editing, you can PM Hayami Kagemusha and ask about the current situation (as he hasn't updated me for a while), or you can simply enter the basic campaign building descriptions in the descr_buildings.txt... The factions need long descriptions for the campaign start as well, although I haven't managed to figure which file they are in yet.

@ Hayami Kagemusha:

Good to see you up here! Which scripts were you working on?

[Hayami Kagemusha]

As of tomorrow I will be back to work on this as usual. I recovered all the files now I need to make sure none of them got corrupted (during transfer, not by the virus), which could take a little bit. But beyond that it was very close to completetion when we stopped last, so assuming nothing goes wrong it should be soon. Personally I hate projects getting delayed, and though it seems like all my recent projects have been constantly delayed by unforseen events, I do try to take charge as much as possible.

One odd sidenote though, since reformatting my computer I have been unable to open up this forum on my web browser. Obviously I'm missing some flash add-on or other but I'm not sure which... the browser simply crashes when trying to open the page. Works fine on my roomie's work laptop though XD

[Jdo0]

This is so AWESOME!! I have to download it!! :O

[Hayami Kagemusha]

Gah well my recent disappearance was actually unrelated this time, as you may have noticed I haven't even been logging in. Thats because my computer got a nasty trojan that forced me to reformat the entire computer. So far I haven't lost any files, and saving my files and reformatting didn't take that long, its just taking a while reconnecting external harddrives, scanning to be sure they weren't infected as wel (But I'm fairly sure they weren't), and then getting each program running again one at a time. Of course NFL preseason has also begun so expect me be busy on weekend evening now too XP

Anyhow, I am feeling better about the scripting though, once I get everything running again I'll get back to working and I do feel like I can put out at least two more releases

[inquisitor]

Very nice to hear m8 .

When can we expect a next release.

I'm totally in the mood now,just finished watching chamberlains Shogun.Watched it when i was a kid....
Bought the dvd box 4 days ago.

[Hayami Kagemusha]

ah good to know for next time. For now, all major files made it fine, a couple minor files were corrupted but easily fixed with a fresh install of RTW, so everything is running smoothly... for the time being ^^ Now I just need to remember where exactly I left off and get back to work, possible it may be done after work tonight but lets put a tentative release date on Tuesday. That will give me the weekend to handle any unexpected problems.... assuming I haven't forgotten something then it should be doable. Was going to say Monday but then remembered I wont be here that day so Tuesday it is. Helloween when I get home I'm going to send you a note... sooner we get back in regular contact the sooner we get things moving.

[Hayami Kagemusha]

gah well I'm stumped. its not a problem with the game or the mod... its a problem with my computer sporadically crashing or hanging up, especially when I try to use web browsers. Pretty clear I missed something when I reformatted... just not sure what yet. slowly going over ever aspect and trying to pinpoint the problem.

Otherwise things are moving along, but its giving me headache after headache. I'm going to try uploading everything to a different computer tonight and do some work... just hoping my shoddy laptop is up to running BoA ^^; All the remaining work is pretty easy if I can just get the computer to cooperate XP

[peng_li]

is the ming chinese army be playable in the 2.0 sub mod campaign ?

[Nelduin]

No, only Japanese Clans at the moment.

[peng_li]

OH ok . thanks hehe too bad then. hoping chinese would come in soon