Gordon Brown resigns as Prime Minister....

**Каие** · June 04, 2009, 04:32 PM

I reckon, by this time next week Gordon Brown will have resigned as Prime Minister and this man will be our next Prime Minister. Or at least he would have died in the process of trying.

I would support him too. He's my joint favourite Labour minister along with John Denham and a safe pair of hands they say. A high school drop out, former post man and neither a socialist, Brownie, or Blairite. He performs excellently on TV, in debate, he's down to earth and just a normal competent guy.

Labour will still be destroyed, but I'd be glad if this man who exemplifies the British dream could make it to the top. John Major round 2. I'm sick and tired of middle class privileged Oxbridge educated people having a monopoly on the top job. John Major broke it, and Johnson will restore it.

Then again, I thought Brown was the bees knees when Blair resigned. I'll turn on Cameron in 3 years time too. It is simply custoimary for Britons to hate who ever is in charge.

Anyway, how long will Brown last? and is Johnson a good replacement or worth a shot?

**Carach** · June 04, 2009, 04:51 PM

whaaaaaaat i would so rather have milliband

lawls

rome if u thought brown was all cool when he came to power u were very ignorant of his past and influence in blair's government

**Stavroforos** · June 04, 2009, 04:53 PM

Restore the Stuarts!

**~~removeduser_426582376423734~~** · June 04, 2009, 04:55 PM

Miliband. He's young, fairly experienced and exactly what Labour needs.

**Alba gu Brath** · June 04, 2009, 04:56 PM

Very misleading Title.

**Xen** · June 04, 2009, 04:56 PM

Dude, your thread title got me excited.

**Ter** · June 04, 2009, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Яome kb8

Labour will still be destroyed, but I'd be glad if this man who exemplifies the British dream could make it to the top. John Major round 2. I'm sick and tired of middle class privileged Oxbridge educated people having a monopoly on the top job. John Major broke it, and Johnson will restore it.

Then again, I thought Brown was the bees knees when Blair resigned. I'll turn on Cameron in 3 years time too. It is simply custoimary for Britons to hate who ever is in charge.

Anyway, how long will Brown last? and is Johnson a good replacement or worth a shot?

Sounds like you're turning on Cameron already.

I can see Brown being stubborn and staying for as long as he can. Really for Labour it should be damage minimization time and Johnson would be a very good choice.

**ivan_the_terrible** · June 04, 2009, 04:58 PM

Change the title.

**Ter** · June 04, 2009, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Shyam

Miliband. He's young, fairly experienced and exactly what Labour needs.

I assume you mean David. Would it be a bit of a waste? Like Hague, going too early.

**cristophe el perno** · June 04, 2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Яome kb8

I reckon, by this time next week Gordon Brown will have resigned as Prime Minister and this man will be our next Prime Minister. Or at least he would have died in the process of trying.

I would support him too. He's my joint favourite Labour minister along with John Denham and a safe pair of hands they say. A high school drop out, former post man and neither a socialist, Brownie, or Blairite. He performs excellently on TV, in debate, he's down to earth and just a normal competent guy.

Labour will still be destroyed, but I'd be glad if this man who exemplifies the British dream could make it to the top. John Major round 2. I'm sick and tired of middle class privileged Oxbridge educated people having a monopoly on the top job. John Major broke it, and Johnson will restore it.

Then again, I thought Brown was the bees knees when Blair resigned. I'll turn on Cameron in 3 years time too. It is simply custoimary for Britons to hate who ever is in charge.

Anyway, how long will Brown last? and is Johnson a good replacement or worth a shot?

Well, if Johnson is a good potential leader, it would be a shame for him to take the helm in such adverse circumstances. Still, if he replaced Brown next week, then spent a few months forcing through constitutional changes before going to the polls perhaps in october, then I would be content, even if Cameron still becomes PM afterwards. A decent Labour fihgtback could lead to the Liberal wet dream of a hung parliament.

As for the complaint about the oxbridge domination of politics, don't you advocate for PM a man who is not only Oxbridge, but Bullingdon club and Old-Etonian as well. I call hipocrisy.

**Juvenal** · June 04, 2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Яome kb8

I'm sick and tired of middle class privileged Oxbridge educated people having a monopoly on the top job.

You are going to need to do a bit of work on that prejudice if you wish to remain a Conservative.

David Cameron

David Cameron ... the son of stockbroker Ian Donald Cameron and his wife, Mary Fleur Mount, the second daughter of Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet. ... Cameron's maternal grandfather, Alexander Geddes who had made a fortune in the grain business in Chicago and had returned to Scotland in the 1880s.

His father's family had a very long history in the world of finance: David Cameron's great-grandfather Arthur Francis Levita (brother of Sir Cecil Levita) of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers and his great-great-grandfather Sir Ewen Cameron, London head of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank played key roles in discussions led by the Rothschilds with the Japanese central banker (later Prime Minister) Takahashi Korekiyo concerning the selling of war bonds during the Russo-Japanese war.

Cameron is a direct descendant of King William IV (4th great-grandfather) and his mistress Dorothea Jordan (and thus 5th cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II).

...

Education

Heatherdown Preparatory School

At the age of seven, Cameron attended the independent Heatherdown Preparatory School at Winkfield in Berkshire, which counted Prince Andrew and Prince Edward among its alumni.

Eton College

Cameron was educated at Eton College, often described as the most famous public school in the world, and traditionally referred to as "the chief nurse of England's statesmen". He followed his elder brother Alex who was three years above him;

Oxford

Cameron studied at the University of Oxford, where he read for a B.A. in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics (PPE) at Brasenose College.

**Shaun** · June 04, 2009, 05:10 PM

I don't really think it matters because after the next election Labour are finished anyway...

**Desperado †** · June 04, 2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun

I don't really think it matters because after the next election Labour are finished anyway...

Even if they are doomed to loose (which they aren't necessarilly, although it's most likely) there's still the battle to remain the main opposition and retain as many seats as you can.

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · June 04, 2009, 05:20 PM

Yeah I think Brown's doomed now. It's amazing that Labour has broken ranks on an election day, though. Incredible.

**Syron** · June 04, 2009, 05:34 PM

If Johnson becomes leader Labour are not just out of the next general election, they'll be finished for good!

So perhaps it's a good thing......

Policy-wise, he will not be popular with other MP's who will force him to back down on many of his "radical" reforms and will probably be seen as even more of a lame duck than Brown, if you can believe that's possible!

**~~removeduser_426582376423734~~** · June 04, 2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

Yeah I think Brown's doomed now. It's amazing that Labour has broken ranks on an election day, though. Incredible.

The minute the polls close may as well be a week or month later.

**Yorkshireman** · June 04, 2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

Yeah I think Brown's doomed now. It's amazing that Labour has broken ranks on an election day, though. Incredible.

It just shows you what a buch of shites they are, no loyalty.

**Otsman** · June 04, 2009, 05:44 PM

i was so excited by that title

buzzkill

**Каие** · June 04, 2009, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Carach

whaaaaaaat i would so rather have milliband

lawls

rome if u thought brown was all cool when he came to power u were very ignorant of his past and influence in blair's government

I disliked Blair, he was the great betrayer. I actually liked Brown, he was the only man able to stand up to Blair and his minions. Brown had no infatuation with America, or war. Brown was the one reason why Blair didn't run completely riot over everything. Of course i didn't know about Brown's past actions on the economy no one did. Not even the Bank of England knew what the hell was happening.

Originally Posted by Shyam

Miliband. He's young, fairly experienced and exactly what Labour needs.

He's not what they need at all in this time. He's the one who bottled it last year in 2008, he had a clear opportunity to rid us of Brown but was easily made to back down with some nice bribes. He's the kind of man who only cares about his job, as opposed to his country. Like John Reid today told Brown he needs to piss off and rejected the Home office portfolio in the same breath.

Originally Posted by RJcfc

Very misleading Title.

Very deliberate.

Originally Posted by Ter

Sounds like you're turning on Cameron already.

Oh, Camron's a lot higher than Middle Class.

He's practically an Aristocrat.

Originally Posted by cristophe el perno

As for the complaint about the oxbridge domination of politics, don't you advocate for PM a man who is not only Oxbridge, but Bullingdon club and Old-Etonian as well. I call hipocrisy.

Not quite. I don't discriminate on the basis of class, wealth or circumstance. He was born with a silver spoon, and was fed with it. Would you go to a crap school aged 11 on purpose to prove a point to society in case you wanted to be PM later in life? The hypocrisy is only those who have no problem bashing the rich and affluent while claiming to stand up for the lower classes.

However I wasn't saying they should be banned from being PM, I said I'd like more people from humble roots to assert themselves and make it to the top. David Davis the guy who Cameron beat to become leader, the civil liberites guy, was a working class school drop out lad. The fact that he was only beaten by Cameron because Cameron pulled the ''modernise'' trick shows it is possible for the humble to succeed.

Originally Posted by Juvenal

You are going to need to do a bit of work on that prejudice if you wish to remain a Conservative.

David Cameron

The Conservative Party gave us our first non-Oxbridge PM 50 years ago in Eden. Then they gave us our first working class PM, Heath. Then gave us our first non-university/A level/high school dropout PM in Major. Our first non-landowner PM, our first Middle Class PM. etc. All the milestones have been hit by this side.