Spawn of Incest trait

**jerryrice88** · June 03, 2009, 12:20 AM

This trait seems a little bit to harsh considering Joffery and Tommen seem to be relatively normal. Rather than this trait, Joff could just start with Anger, and you could make a special trait for Tommen called "likes kittens." Other than the fact that Joffery is crazy and Tommen seems to do whatever he is told, they are normal.

**Tywin Lannister** · June 03, 2009, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by jerryrice88

This trait seems a little bit to harsh considering Joffery and Tommen seem to be relatively normal. Rather than this trait, Joff could just start with Anger, and you could make a special trait for Tommen called "likes kittens." Other than the fact that Joffery is crazy and Tommen seems to do whatever he is told, they are normal.

They *are* spanws of incest. The trait suits them perfectly, and it can be countered by positive traits you may aquire later (in my Greyjoy campaign, AI Joffrey had 10 Dread and 9 Authority at one point).

P.S.

And why does "likes kittens" warrants being made into a trait?

**jerryrice88** · June 03, 2009, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tywin Lannister

And why does "likes kittens" warrants being made into a trait?

Not necessarily that exact trait, but maybe something to fit his personality more like an opposite of Anger, maybe called "meek" or "weak."

**stormbringer951** · June 03, 2009, 02:40 AM

Why?

**Stoicblitzer** · June 03, 2009, 08:00 AM

They are spawns of incest. Even normal people can be born of incest.

**stormbringer951** · June 03, 2009, 12:05 PM

I know that. I mean that why have "likes kittens"? I like kittens (in lava in dwarf fortress

), I'm not a spawn of incest. Why?

**Stoicblitzer** · June 03, 2009, 01:51 PM

I was just responding to jerryrice88. No idea why 'likes kittens' should be a trait instead of spawn of incest.

**stormbringer951** · June 03, 2009, 03:46 PM

lol

**jerryrice88** · June 03, 2009, 04:20 PM

Not necessarily "likes kittens," but not "Spawn of Incest" either. There is no reason to have negative effects for this trait. It doesn't accurately effect their personalities. The common people in the books don't seem to obey Joffery and Tommen less because thy are spawns of incest. They merely treat this fact as a piece of idle gossip. Joffery should start with Anger or a trait that shows that he is crazy, and Tommen should start with a trait that shows how much of an inneffective leader he is.