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    Icon1 Amendment - Immigrants are eligible for Presidential candidation

    Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution. A Presidential candidate must:
    • be a natural born citizen of the United States;
    • be at least thirty-five years old;
    • have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.


    Reasoning:
    As you know, I'm an immigrant. I came over here as an immigrant, and what gave me the opportunities, what made me to be here today, is the open arms of Americans. I have been received. I have been adopted by America. I won Mr. Olympia seven times. I became one of the biggest movie star in history. Then I became the Governator of the Golden State. Everything I have, my career, my success, my family, I owe to America. Public service improves the lives and the world around you, it's greatest reward is the enrichment and new meaning it will bring your own life. One day I will lead this great nation to victory and even more greatness. The Constitution needs to be amended so that immigrants can become Presidents. Are you with me?

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    I've said this before, but in Britain you don't even have to be a British citizen to be Prime Minister.

    PS. History has shown that allowing Austrian immigrants to become leaders of super powers does not end well.

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    Just to get Arnold into office, yes.

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    Arnie, as much as i like your movies, i must say no. The only way i would even accept a non-natural american as a president if is he lived almost ALL his life in america.



    Plus we know what happened the last time an austrian took power in another country...

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    Just to get Arnold into office, yes.
    I say, Just to keep Arnold out of Office, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Rob View Post
    I say, Just to keep Arnold out of Office, no.
    What do you have against him? He is awesome.

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    Default Re: Amendment - Immigrants are eligible for Presidential candidation

    Thank you all for this warm welcome of my proposal. Thank you guys, Яome kb8, Timothy Leary and even JNS and C-Rob for the replies. I appreciate you took the time to answer.

    You should know, that for me life is continuously being hungry. The meaning of life is not simply to exist, to survive, but to move ahead, to go up, to achieve, to conquer. I can promise you that when I go to Washington, I will pump up Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    PS. History has shown that allowing Austrian immigrants to become leaders of super powers does not end well.
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    Plus we know what happened the last time an austrian took power in another country...
    I admired Hitler because he came from being a little man with almost no education to power. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. I despise everything that the Nazis stood for. I hated the regime -- hate the regime, the Third Reich, the whole Nazi philosophy -- have always fought against it. I am an American in all of my heart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger View Post
    I admired Hitler because he came from being a little man with almost no education to power. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. I despise everything that the Nazis stood for. I hated the regime -- hate the regime, the Third Reich, the whole Nazi philosophy -- have always fought against it. I am an American in all of my heart.
    Are you sure that you admire him for how "he came from being a little man with almost no education to power," through violence and bloodshed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Are you sure that you admire him for how "he came from being a little man with almost no education to power," through violence and bloodshed.
    i didnt know that the stuff you do in movies is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    i didnt know that the stuff you do in movies is real.
    I was talking bout Hitler mate.

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    I'd support removing the natural born citizen part removed, if the time spent living in the US is lengthened. I think around 20 years would be good, because then that would be more than half of the 35-year old requirement, although it could be argued that since most presidents were older than 35 when elected the length spent in the US should be even longer than 20 years. For me, living in the US seems like a much better way to insure loyalty than simply being born here.
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    Governator.....

    Based on the shape California is in right now, and also on your lacking performance in Terminator III (no butt shot this time???) I will have to say no to your poll.

    btw, is it true what they say about body-builders?? ( *holds thumbs and forefinger 1" apart*).
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    How exactly can America have a non-immigrant president? Surely there is more to being American than being born there? So of course i think Immigrants should be allowed to be president.
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    I though Martin van Buren was an immigrant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    I though Martin van Buren was an immigrant?
    But he was Dutch and Arnold is Austrian, see the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    I though Martin van Buren was an immigrant?
    The whole immigration thing was written into some constitutional amendments that were made after van Buren's time, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    I though Martin van Buren was an immigrant?
    van Buren was born in New York.

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    aww dont put arnie down too much, im sure hes doin an awsome job. if all else fails u could terminate gordan brown for us and become prime minister of the uk. i havnt thought of a catchy name for you yet, like the govornater though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey123 View Post
    aww dont put arnie down too much, im sure hes doin an awsome job. if all else fails u could terminate gordan brown for us and become prime minister of the uk. i havnt thought of a catchy name for you yet, like the govornater though
    Take him! Please! We'll pay you! He's an atrocious governor and an embarrassment to the GOP. :
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    Only for Arnie lol. Crom be with you!

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