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    Default Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Because i Do believe in a god but , i dont go to church ...
    I dont like Christianity.
    I dont like Catholicism .
    I dont like any kind of religion.
    Yet i do believe , secretly , that there is a god among us...
    Am i acting wrong ?

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Well I claim to be Christian even though I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old.. So I don't think you are an Atheist.. more like a general theist.


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    General theist?


    Like a priest?




    :o
    should i be worried?

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    Because i Do believe in a god but , i dont go to church ...
    If you believe in any kind of deity, then you are by definition not an atheist.
    Just because you don't actively practise a religion doesn't make you non-theist.

    Am i acting wrong ?
    You can believe and practise however you want. Don't leave it in the hands of others.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Thank god someone like you told me to not leave it to the others...
    As i was very worried...




    But .. is it wrong to not believe in what my family's believe?

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    Thank god someone like you told me to not leave it to the others...
    As i was very worried...




    But .. is it wrong to not believe in what my family's believe?
    Of course not, where do you get that idea?

    You're free to believe what you want.

    Besides, it's not like you can force yourself to believe something you don't believe.


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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    My mom always tells me - cursing at me , that im an idiot and all that for being an atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    My mom always tells me - cursing at me , that im an idiot and all that for being an atheist
    Well, you're not an Atheist that's for sure, you're probably a Deist or regular Theist.
    Tell your mom to shove it (), your religious beliefs are your own and you shouldn't be criticised because your are different from hers.


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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    My mom always tells me - cursing at me , that im an idiot and all that for being an atheist
    My personal feelings and opinion on religion aside, she has no right to say that to you, regardless of whether it's religion or just a basic difference in opinion.

    There is no point in trying to force someone into believing something they don't wish to - it merely wastes the time of both parties.

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    lol@ at mrcrustys comment
    Shove it
    ahahah

    your religious beliefs are your own and you shouldn't be criticised because your are different from hers.

    Thaaaaaaank you

    Wanna be my new momma ?

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    Thaaaaaaank you

    Wanna be my new momma ?
    .... No thanks.

    You might wanna start off asking a woman first.

    Last edited by mrcrusty; May 31, 2009 at 05:00 AM.


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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    Because i Do believe in a god but , i dont go to church ...
    I dont like Christianity.
    I dont like Catholicism .
    I dont like any kind of religion.
    Yet i do believe , secretly , that there is a god among us...
    Am i acting wrong ?
    Sounds like Deism or Pantheism to me.

    Certainly not atheism.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Other people forcing their beliefs on you is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who's doing it, and what the beliefs are. Believing in something else is never wrong. Calling people an idiot because they don't agree with you, is.

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    You're irrelgious or ''ietsist''.
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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    You sound like a non-denominational theist or a Deist, not an atheist.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy_purpus View Post
    Because i Do believe in a god but , i dont go to church ...
    I dont like Christianity.
    I dont like Catholicism .
    I dont like any kind of religion.
    Yet i do believe , secretly , that there is a god among us...
    Am i acting wrong ?
    Your definately not acting "wrong" lol. I share the same beliefs as you. Now-a-days I don't brand myself with any particular faith. I was raised a Catholic though and my family are Catholics. However, they are not overly religious and don't go to church every week.

    I personally like to believe that there is some sort of higher power out there. i.e God. I also believe in an after-life. However, I like to take a scientific point of view when it comes to such things as creation and evolution.

    I also don't agree with alot of the things preached by the church. I think that religion is the "opium of the masses" (Karl Marx). Religion is the source for many conflicts. I do not go out of my way though to say that any perticular religion is wrong etc. Let people believe what they want, I don't care. Let's just all get along.

    IMO if your a good person in life no matter what you believe then I see no reason why you would be viewed as wrong in the eyes of people and in the eyes of God..
    Last edited by Alba gu Brath; May 31, 2009 at 01:10 PM.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Why do people bother with all these titles "Theist", "Deist", "Irreligious", "Atheist"? These words were invented so you can occupy your chattering mind with something, instead of looking to the depths of your being.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    Why do people bother with all these titles "Theist", "Deist", "Irreligious", "Atheist"? These words were invented so you can occupy your chattering mind with something, instead of looking to the depths of your being.
    "Every individual is at once the beneficiary and the victim of the linguistic tradition into which he has been born - the beneficiary inasmuch as language gives access to the accumulated records of other people's experience, the victim in so far as it confirms him in the belief that reduced awareness is the only awareness and as it bedevils his sense of reality, so that he is all too apt to take his concepts for data, his words for actual things."

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    How can you say you don't like any religion though? there's quite a lot for you to have explored to be able to say that.

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    Default Re: Familiy tradition tells me that im an atheist ?

    There's nothing wrong with thinking there is a god (maybe there is, maybe there isn't).

    I just like to assume that there isn't because if I assume that there is, then I come to the problem of "is it theist or deist? If theist: does any religion in the world know it or has every religion in the world missed it? Does it have a form? It is all powerful or limited? Is it good, bad or regular? Is it necessary? Is it a materialistic god (like Dr. Manhattan) or a spiritual/dualistic god?"

    And the list goes on. Thus, I just assume he's not there.
    And if he is there, I just assume that he's deistic.
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