Autonomous communities

[DekuTrash]

I was looking over Spain's government and I was wondering about some of the benefiets of Autonomous communities.Do they only exist there? how are they different from regular states/provinces?

[Denny Crane!]

I was looking over Spain's government and I was wondering about some of the benefiets of Autonomous communities.Do they only exist there? how are they different from regular states/provinces?

Might help if you put down some sources or information on them.

[DekuTrash]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonom...ities_of_Spain


Just going off the wiki

Of course anyone who lives in Spain would be of great help.

[Della Villa]

They don't only exist in Spain. The only other example I have is of Xinjiang (northwest China) and Tibet which are both part of China but given certain privileges. In China and probably Spain as well it is an effort to keep the minorities in those regions pacified.

[DekuTrash]

Ethnic minorities?

[Della Villa]

Ethnic minorities?

yes

[DekuTrash]

Thanks,
I was just asking cause buddies of mine were having one of their great political discussions and someone suggested having autonomous communities in America.
Don't really know how that would work

The Autonomous Community of New England sounds nice though

But I would assume they would still keep designations as states though.

[Della Villa]

Ha ha! Maybe if Cali legalizes pot the U.S. will make them an autonomous region and we can all live under the rule of benevolent hippies and ex-hippies.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Thanks,
I was just asking cause buddies of mine were having one of their great political discussions and someone suggested having autonomous communities in America.
Don't really know how that would work

The Autonomous Community of New England sounds nice though

But I would assume they would still keep designations as states though.

Well, states were originally much more autonomous than they are now. Moving in that direction somewhat would be a good thing I think.

[Della Villa]

I agree and disagree. States should have the final say in local affairs (much like the system is now) however if they become to powerful then the USA disintegrates into a loose confederation of independent states. Much like the EU is today. I'd much rather the US remain the supreme hegemon.

[Yuiis]

Hmm its a bit of a strange thing. See, the centralist inertia of Spain has had to somewhat adapt to the plural reality of its society. After Franco's regime (totally centralised) there was a debate as to what status the other 3 nations that exist in the spanish state would achieve. This period was called the "transition" (from dictatorship, to democracy) and of course the still strongest and most influential side in this debate were still the right-wing centralists. Catalonia, the Basque country and Galicia strongly demanded a greater status of sovereignity, but this had to be done in a way that the rest of Spain people didn't see this as a favoritism for them. (Spain was, and is, too centralist to declare istelf a federal state). So these three together with Andalucia were granted the title of "Comunidad Autonoma Historica", and then 14 other comunidades autonomas were created. In reality though, this difference was merely semantical and it did not imply greater sovereignity for the "historical" comunities.

So you understand it it is somewhat a medium point between a province and a state. Each comunidad autonoma has some degree of sovereignity which is normally debated and agreed with the central state. This is why there are comunities with more sovereignity than others. The problem comes when wanting and demanding more sovereignity to a state which is in its core very centralist. The model in my opinion is outdated...a system that was agreed 30 years ago in a tense political enviornment should be renewed now.

Hope that helped a bit...

[Dodge]

I love what Barca and Athletic Club mean and have meant historically to the people of the region.

[Alhamar]

A Comunidad Autonoma is...i dont know, we can say that they are federal states than instead of have had recongise their selfgoverment rights in the constitution and share all those rights with other Comunidades they have differents degrees, meanwhile some autonomias have ones rights others have diferents ones, its depend of the work between the autonomia and the central goverment. I agree with all said by Yuiis except by the outdated fact, since my point of view is quite the oposite, the autonomias are constantly improving and adapting their situation to the actual situation and keeping a constant dialogue between them and the goverment, i think spain should improve this way of goverment implementing those instrument in the outdated constitution, the sistem works perfectly but it fails due to the lack of legal recognition of actual the system. (see the upgrading of the estatutos...)

Nice day