Would you die for your country?

[Aaron88]

I have a question. Would you die for your country? I have heard this statement tossed around in movies and other places including from a friend of mine. He said he would because he assumed if you were going to die for anything, why not your country? It's something easy to say, but really, would it be worth it.

[Carousel]

I'm not sure to be honest. If it was a national emergency; the regular army had been wiped out and there was an imminent invasion then yeah, I would fight. If I was freely given the choice then no I wouldn't. What is a country other than a culture contained within an imaginary line? We are all people, why kill each other? :blink

[Sosobra]

For a country that has given my family so much and ask for very little in return I would glady put my life on the line (especially if my sacrifice would keep my family safe or my brothers from fighting )

[internationalist]

I think there are very, very few things worth giving your life for; however, I would only die for my country if I truly believed that good would come of my sacrifice and that it was for a good cause. For example, I wouldn't sign up for the military today, but if the U.S were invaded, I would defend her with my life. I would also die fighting against fascism and totalitarianism, a la the spanish civil war.

[halfdone]

If god forbid a war was to start, I would enlist gladly for the country my family has a lot of history and pride in and put my life on the line but I wouldn't go out and sacrifice myself.

[Sidus Preclarum]

Originally posted by internationalist@May 26 2005, 09:08 PM
I think there are very, very few things worth giving your life for; however, I would only die for my country if I truly believed that good would come of my sacrifice and that it was for a good cause. For example, I wouldn't sign up for the military today, but if the U.S were invaded, I would defend her with my life. I would also die fighting against fascism and totalitarianism, a la the spanish civil war.

that kind of sums it for me too...
btw, Inter, who's that in your avatar ? Camus ?

[Bruticus the Steadfast]

Well. I have a very long line of Soldiers in my family, so yes. But as most people here, I may not enlist just for kicks. I would really only die to defend MY country, not some middle eastern one lol :p. So yes, under the right cause, yes. BUT, I would die for my faith much faster then my country.

[Jesus The Inane]

I would be willing to die a million times for my country. And I wish I could have a million lives, so that I could die a milion times for my country. What more greater honor can a man have?

I think there are very, very few things worth giving your life for; however, I would only die for my country if I truly believed that good would come of my sacrifice and that it was for a good cause. For example, I wouldn't sign up for the military today, but if the U.S were invaded, I would defend her with my life. I would also die fighting against fascism and totalitarianism, a la the spanish civil war.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of men better than himself"
- John Stuart Mill

[Manningham]

Sept. 11 claimed numerous members of my community and I was eager to enlist at the time, the only factor preventing that development being my age (which apparently isn't a meaningful limitation anymore). I was furious at Al-Quaeda and wanted to do what I thought was "right" by going to Afghanistan and repaying the favor.

If you remember, though, shortly after the campaign in Afghanistan was initiated, Bush started pointing fingers at Iraq. Now, I don't think I would have had a problem with that had he said, "I want to go to Iraq because those poor oppressed people deserve better," but what he said was, "I want to attack Iraq because they could be plotting to attack us" and proceeded to present evidence which was frequently discredited by weapons inspectors, the UN, yadda yadda. That gave me the distinct impression that the man was using the sept. 11 issue to drive some unknown neocon agenda ...

My point is, I'm not sure if I'm willing to fight for any legitimate cause, but it has to be legitimate. Darfur for example, those people needed our help from the beginning.

Hold on.... wait, yes! I'm having a vision! I forsee such an argument:

Hey man, but regardless of why we went to Iraq, now what we're doing is fighting to help them achieve a stable democracy! That's plenty legitimate!

True, but we're not helping the process along by letting Haliburton steal their oil revenue and depriving a country which really needs to jump-start its economy of the means to do so. Wonder why they hate us?

And sending too few translators and such, that sucks! Had our volunteers known they would be so ill prepared for the operations that awaited them in Iraq, I bet a lot of them wouldn't have joined to begin with. By being ill-prepared, I mean having an administration which doesn't think their actions through to conclusion. We planned an operation which required way more people than we've got to participate, thus we keep sending our guys back, and who can blame those who refuse? I'm sure not putting my life on the line when my government is going to stab me in the back.

Let me just end this by saying I know the majority of our soldiers over there, including several of my friends, are doing their best despite the overwhelming task with which they are charged.

[Paul9687]

"""Hold on.... wait, yes! I'm having a vision! I forsee such an argument:

Hey man, but regardless of why we went to Iraq, now what we're doing is fighting to help them achieve a stable democracy! That's plenty legitimate!

True, but we're not helping the process along by letting Haliburton steal their oil revenue and depriving a country which really needs to jump-start its economy of the means to do so. Wonder why they hate us?"""

Enough with this bull crap. Tell me, are you a ranking member of Haliburton or the United States Federal Government? Or are you just a kid who believes everything that comes out of anyone mouth including the elite liberal media? Judging on this comment - """the only factor preventing that development being my age""" I would say the latter. If they are stealing the oil, I ask you this, where is it? Are they hidding 100 million barrels of oil in some remote corner of the country?

My only point being, let's not assume we know everything----This is not an attack on any other nation or political party, I'm simply too tired to argue right now

P.S. I would gladly lay down my life to protect my flag

[Rand Al Thor]

If the USA was threaten I would fight, and if my family/ friends/ etc. were threatened I would gladly lay down my life to protect theirs.

[Somethindarker]

[B]i would gladly die for my country and my beliefs, i mean the u.s. has the freedom for people to say screw the u.s. and what not we got a diverse culteral blend and each has the same rights as the rest.....although i'd have to say if i were to die i'd take as many of the enemy mother:wub:s as i can with me...[B]

[Lee1026]

iff I would die (or live horribly) either way.
say if france or canada attacks us, I will among ones who welcomes them in. but if N.Korea attacks I would enlist.

[Pent uP Rage]

Yeah, if Iraqi soldiers were advancing down my street, you better believe it. But for oil...no. I tried to join the military, but they wouldn't have me(pins and screws in my knee)

If I'm gonna die for a word...my word is gonna be "poon tang"

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -Animal Mother, "Full Metal Jacket"

[Sephynos]

I wouldn't die for my country. I would die for those I love and people I can truly help by defending them. *ntw*

[Sephynos]

And I won't go kill people. Sayin' ''G-d's wills it!!''

[hannibal89]

Jesus the Inane

I would be willing to die a million times for my country. And I wish I could have a million lives, so that I could die a milion times for my country. What more greater honor can a man have?

Reminds me of the game battle realms. Any of you played it?

Anyway someone makes a statement like that to which the other replies "One death will do" and kills person A

As for me, i think i've already stated this.

It depends.
Defense certainly as long as our country is right.
But war like the one going on now?
Bite me.

Hannibal89

[Gelatinous Cube]

I would die to defend my country, but I would not die for some farce of a war over in Iraq.

[Sephynos]

Originally posted by hannibal89@May 26 2005, 11:08 PM
Jesus the Inane

I would be willing to die a million times for my country. And I wish I could have a million lives, so that I could die a milion times for my country. What more greater honor can a man have?

It's worth to die for saving life; to continue life. Never for personal honorship, at the end it makes no sense. Honor is an excuse to fight, to hate without remorce.

[Davius Sobieum]

I wouldn't die for my country...I'd make the bastard on the other side die for his country/cause. Gotta love Patton.

If the situation permitted that if my life were to end and my fellow soldiers to live on and go home to their family, so be it.