Bloodiest European battles per century

**Abendstern** · May 23, 2009, 09:09 AM

So lets see if we can come up with a list of the 20 battles that took most casualties in their century beginning with the first century. Fought on European soil by whoever.

Number of casualties on both sides combined, either killed or wounded, prisoners NOT included.

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18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / 2.629.619

Everyone adding or making changes to the list please provide a source as this topic is not meant to be one of opinions but one of (established) facts.

**Yorkshireman** · May 23, 2009, 09:22 AM

Do you mean just set piece battles ? For example the Somme, (around 1.5 million casualties) is called a battle but was really an offensive lasting several weeks.

**Abendstern** · May 23, 2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Yorkshireman

Do you mean just set piece battles ? For example the Somme, (around 1.5 million casualties) is called a battle but was really an offensive lasting several weeks.

I admit the term 'battle' is difficult to apply in 20th century warfare. Here along with the actual numbers the definition of a battle is up to discussion as well.

**._.** · May 23, 2009, 09:47 AM

the nineteenth century would be the battle of nations between Napoleon and the coalition against him i think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_nations

**Abendstern** · May 23, 2009, 09:55 AM

that would be

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19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: ?

**Junius** · May 23, 2009, 10:03 AM

Does European mean taking place in Europe, itself quite ambiguous, or a battle between two European nations, or even just a battle with one European nation/coalition. Take for example the Crusades, are those European battles? What about the Kingdom of Jerusalem. I would argue that the KoJ was a European nation.

**Abendstern** · May 23, 2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by fergusmck

Does European mean taking place in Europe, itself quite ambiguous, or a battle between two European nations, or even just a battle with one European nation/coalition. Take for example the Crusades, are those European battles? What about the Kingdom of Jerusalem. I would argue that the KoJ was a European nation.

Well, in order to keep things simple: Fought on European soil.

Sticking with Wikipedia I add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Torgau for the 18th century.

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18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: ?

**Lord de Lyonesse** · May 23, 2009, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by fergusmck

Does European mean taking place in Europe

This seems to be getting more and more complex the more i look into it

But i think its something that needs to be addressed i would say (for top 5 at least)

1. Stalingrad (sequences of 'battles')
2. Somme
3. Paschendael
4. Battle of Waterloo(?)
5. Battle of Grimsby upon Avon

#. Battle of Beanfield (

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**DAVIDE** · May 23, 2009, 10:18 AM

Stalingrad (09/19/1942 - 02/02/1943)

1.129.619 KIA (USSR)
1.500.000 KIA (Germany, Italy, Romania, Hungary, Croatia)

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18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / 2.629.619

**webMaster412160** · May 23, 2009, 11:55 AM

1: Battle of the Teutoburg Forest Roman losses 20 000 people,german tribes unknow.
2: ?
3: ?
4: Battle of Adrianople Eastern Roman Empire losses 15 000-20 000 people,goths Unknown (Probably large).
5: ?
6: ?
7: ?
8:?
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11: battle of hastings:Norman lost 3000 people,English people lost 5000 people.
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18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / 2.629.619

source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_hastings
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...tonburg_Forest
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adrianople

I hope you find this nice read the text at the wiki verry interesting.

**Ishoss** · May 23, 2009, 12:37 PM

Even Stamford Bridge is bloodier than Hastings. The Vikings lost 7k and the Saxons 2k.

**Darsh** · May 23, 2009, 12:49 PM

1: Battle of the Teutoburg Forest Roman losses 20 000 people,german tribes unknow.
2: ?
3: ?
4: Battle of Adrianople Eastern Roman Empire losses 15 000-20 000 people,goths Unknown (Probably large).
5: ?
6: ?
7: ?
8:?
9: ?
10: ?
11: battle of hastings:Norman lost 3000 people,English people lost 5000 people.
12: ?
13: ?
14: ?
15: ?
16: Battle of Marignano / Italian wars / France&Venitian vs Suiss Cantons / 20.000
17: Battle of Landen / Nine Years War / France vs England&United Provinces/ 28.000
18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / 2.629.619

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Landen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marignano

**~~arkeologen~~** · May 23, 2009, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Darsh

1: Battle of the Teutoburg Forest Roman losses 20 000 people,german tribes unknow.
2: ?
3: ?
4: Battle of Adrianople Eastern Roman Empire losses 15 000-20 000 people,goths Unknown (Probably large).
5: ?
6: ?
7: ?
8:?
9: ?
10: ?
11: battle of hastings:Norman lost 3000 people,English people lost 5000 people.
12: ?
13: ?
14: ?
15: ?
16: ?
17: Battle of Landen / Nine Years War / France vs England&United Provinces/ 28.000
18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Nations / Napoleonic Wars / Saxony / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / 2.629.619

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Landen

How many at Landen actually died? in the wikipedia article only total casualties are mentioned, but it is not mentioned if the majority of the casualties were prisoners or KIA/WIA.

**Darsh** · May 23, 2009, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by arkeologen

How many at Landen actually died? in the wikipedia article only total casualties are mentioned, but it is not mentioned if the majority of the casualties were prisoners or KIA/WIA.

according to this article:
"Les alliés laissaient sur le champ de bataille 18 000 morts ou blessés, 1 500 prisonniers et 104 canons. Le Tapissier de Notre-Dame envoya au Roi 22 drapeaux et 60 étendards, mais sa victoire lui coûtait 10 000 braves".
http://bataillesdefrance.free.fr/per...eerwinden.html

18.000 allies were dead or wounded plus 1.500 prisoners with 104 canons

One of the greatest battle of the Maréchal Luxembourg.

**Yorkshireman** · May 23, 2009, 01:11 PM

Agincourt, English losses 112 dead - French losses upto 10,000 dead.

Crecy, english losses 2-300 dead French losses upto 15,000 dead.

**King Edward III** · August 28, 2009, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Yorkshireman

Agincourt, English losses 112 dead - French losses upto 10,000 dead.

Crecy, english losses 2-300 dead French losses upto 15,000 dead.

**Garrigan** · May 23, 2009, 01:14 PM

The English loses were that high at Crecy? I thought it was still in the hundreds...

**Yorkshireman** · May 23, 2009, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Garrigan

The English loses were that high at Crecy? I thought it was still in the hundreds...

I think it was upto 300 common men but only 2 knights/nobles.

**Garrigan** · May 23, 2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Yorkshireman

I think it was upto 300 common men but only 2 knights/nobles.

Ah, apologies mate. I read an extra zero on the end. Yeah I thought roughly 300 too.

**Darsh** · May 23, 2009, 02:06 PM

1: Battle of the Teutoburg Forest Roman losses 20 000 people,german tribes unknow.
2: ?
3: ?
4: Battle of Adrianople Eastern Roman Empire losses 15 000-20 000 people,goths Unknown (Probably large).
5: ?
6: ?
7: ?
8:?
9: ?
10: ?
11: battle of hastings:Norman lost 3000 people,English people lost 5000 people.
12:
13: Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa / Castille&Navarre&Aragon&Portugal vs Almohads / 100.000+
14: Battle of Bannockburn / First War of Scottish independence / Scotland vs England / 11 .700+
15: Battle of Vaslui / Ottoman-Hungarian Wars / Poland&Hungary&Moldavia vs Ottoman Empire / 40.000+
16: Battle of Marignano / Italian wars / France&Venitian vs Suiss Cantons / 20.000
17: Battle of Zanta / Ottoman-Habsburg wars / HRE&Austria&Hungary vs Ottoman Empire/ 30.500+
18: Battle of Torgau / Seven Years War / Saxony / 36.000
19: Battle of the Leipzig/Nations / Napoleonic Wars / France vs Prussia&Russia&Sweden&Austria / 122.000
20: Battle of Stalingrad / WW2 / Soviet Union vs Germany&Roumania&Hungary&Iatlia&Croatia / 2.629.619

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vaslui
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...avas_de_Tolosa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zenta

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