We've heard the opinions of the Dhimmi's now it's their turn

[Promiscuous Virgin]

Question to all Muslim members on TWC: Do you think it's possible that Muslim demographics are rising high in Europe? Is there a change that some imam nutjob will control the power in a western country? Also where were you grandparents born (did your grandparents/parents grow up in a western country)?

[Zadig]

Now, I am not a muslim, but I can answer both of your questions.
1) No, I don't think that a Western European country could be taken over by a fanatical muslim cleric, for the simple reason that he would have basically no support amongst the non-muslim population and the muslim community would also be very divided, so he would only have the support of a tiny minority in the country.
My Grandfather was a Indian colonist, my grandmother is a Boer, on the other side of my family my grandad is a Swiss immigrant to England and my grandmother is a German in England.

[Каие]

Question to all Muslim members on TWC: Do you think it's possible that Muslim demographics are rising high in Europe?

The population is rising yes, but so is the rest of the European population, for growth is natural. The figures for Muslim population growth are slightly distorted of course, due to immigration. But yes, if immigration is controlled a little more, in time they will rise in line with the rest of the population. So the percentage will stay static.

It is not however in the case of what some members and people like to pretend. "By 2050 we'll be a minority in our own land!" That's what they said in the 1950's. "By 2000 the majority will be lack!" They remain only 5%. Same with Asians. Muslims are some 1-2% of Britain's population. The figures a further distorted by the fact that 5.5 million British people have migrated abroad. So whereas the actual raw number of Muslims is growing in line with the rest of the population, due to many British people leaving the percentage gives the impression that they have risen greatly.

Either way they won't come anywhere near a majority, or even high minority in 200 years, let alone in 40 years.

Is there a change that some imam nutjob will control the power in a western country?

No chance whatsoever. Not even 0.1%.

There is far higher chance of Communists or Nazis getting in.

Also where were you grandparents born (did your grandparents/parents grow up in a western country)?

Algeria, North Africa. All war veterans.

[Aziel]

The population is rising yes, but so is the rest of the European population, for growth is natural. The figures for Muslim population growth are slightly distorted of course, due to immigration. But yes, if immigration is controlled a little more, in time they will rise in line with the rest of the population. So the percentage will stay static.

It is not however in the case of what some members and people like to pretend. "By 2050 we'll be a minority in our own land!" That's what they said in the 1950's. "By 2000 the majority will be lack!" They remain only 5%. Same with Asians. Muslims are some 1-2% of Britain's population. The figures a further distorted by the fact that 5.5 million British people have migrated abroad. So whereas the actual raw number of Muslims is growing in line with the rest of the population, due to many British people leaving the percentage gives the impression that they have risen greatly.

Either way they won't come anywhere near a majority, or even high minority in 200 years, let alone in 40 years.



No chance whatsoever. Not even 0.1%.

There is far higher chance of Communists or Nazis getting in.



Algeria, North Africa. All war veterans.

Isn't western European non-Muslim (i.e. white) decreasing?

[Dr. Croccer]

Isn't western European non-Muslim (i.e. white) decreasing?

No. In most European counjtries the population is steadily increasing through birth rates. The only countries with serious negative growth are Germany, Russia and a few other eastern europen countries.

[Fishy]

No. In most European counjtries the population is steadily increasing through birth rates. The only countries with serious negative growth are Germany, Russia and a few other eastern europen countries.

Only at the moment, because there were relatively few births just before and during WWII. Once the people after WWII start dying the population will decrease faster then it will grow again, because most people in European countries don't get enough children to sustain the population. Muslim population does however. So their growth coupled with the decline of the other groups in the country does create a relatively fast growth of the Muslim population.

Still won't be the majority in any country by 2050 however.

[Каие]

Isn't western European non-Muslim (i.e. white) decreasing?

Only in Eastern Europe is the growth negative, but there are no Muslim immigrants there. In Russia Muslims are native, and same with the Balkans and Turkey.

[Babur]

Question to all Muslim members on TWC: Do you think it's possible that Muslim demographics are rising high in Europe? Is there a change that some imam nutjob will control the power in a western country? Also where were you grandparents born (did your grandparents/parents grow up in a western country)?

no I don't think it is possible that Muslim demographics are rising in Europe,it is still relatively small.I am a Muslim and oppose any "imam nutjob".

I was born in New Delhi in the Republic of India, a secular country with a Hindu majority and a very large Muslim minority (far larger than any in Europe).

my parents and grandparents are from India too.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Moved to the academy.

[Arto]

Question to all Muslim members on TWC: Do you think it's possible that Muslim demographics are rising high in Europe? Is there a change that some imam nutjob will control the power in a western country? Also where were you grandparents born (did your grandparents/parents grow up in a western country)?

1. There might be more children in Muslim families than Non-Muslim families but some of those children return if they've lets say failed to get a proper job. Compare it to the Non-Muslim families and you'll see that there's a proper line of growth.
2. No, like Rome stated ''Not in 200 years''.
3. (Fathers side) My Grandfather was from Armenia and my Grandmother was from Turkey. Both of them are Hemshinlis and later decided to move to the Netherlands. Later my father would marry some Armenian girl from Rize and decided to go to the Netherlands permanently.

[Wilder]

Populations of Muslims are certainly rising, but I ave heard demographics from a number of journalists and sociologists in books (and on the TV) that said that the proportion of Muslims in western countries will level off with Muslims firmly remaining as a minority sooner rather than later. Most of the Eurabia stuff, as they call it, is just inflammatory baloney that that has Little basis in reality.

of course there is a possibility of a nut job anyone gaining to much power for their own good, and that is why everyone, Muslims and non Muslims, must have a firm understanding of western legal principles.

[Deep_Red]

Question to all Muslim members on TWC: Do you think it's possible that Muslim demographics are rising high in Europe? Is there a change that some imam nutjob will control the power in a western country? Also where were you grandparents born (did your grandparents/parents grow up in a western country)?

Maybe the opionion of an anthropologists is helpful?
1) This is possible. But religious evolvements are very unstable and, apart from religiously motivated warfare, don´t interact with other factors of cultural life in human societies at full scale.
2) This is very unlikely. And, as far as I remember, the last time an "imam nutjob" got hold on a country´s politics was Iran 1979. In this case, it was the support of the USA for a malevolent dictator that formed the basis of the "Islamic Revolution".
3) Central Europe. And yes.

[Dr. Croccer]

Muslim demographics are rising and bigger than European ones (not by that much though) but that means nothing. Even if Muslim birthrates were 4 times as big as European ones, it would take centuries for them to become the majority in a random western european country. If birthrates remain the same. So, in theory, it's possible that Muslims will become a majority....over 500 years or so. If things stay exactly the same.